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Post by Chris on Jul 10, 2004 1:58:17 GMT -5
The act also makes it so that any student that doesn't pass will not always move to the next grade anymore.. So there are more people held back. (My brain exploded during those tests by the way...  ) |
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Post by Buddy on Jul 10, 2004 9:30:49 GMT -5
Ah. I see now. I don't see the point of averaging out the stuff for the state actually. That's kinda silly. Though to be honest, Sharakh, when I read your post, the first thing I thought was: "You mean in the US they don't do that? How unfair!" Um. Yeah. Test results mean a lot here.... I remember crying for ages once and getting really depressed back in primary school because I got bad results in Math which were below par for my normal standards. And considering my entire school life from kindergarten onwards has been focused and building up for t3h biggy test which occurs next year, will determine what I do with my life, and is causing me to have a six-day schoolweek now, I oddly enough have not much sympathy. Quote my teacher from the first half of that extremely long ranty run-on sentence. Yeah. I rant a lot now about how miserable my life is. Ignore. It's not actually that bad if you compare with the Singaporean students. I shouldn't be complaining really. I mean, if I have to suffer two years to get good results, I'll suffer gladly. Well, in America, the concept of "pass the test or fail at life" is a new one. Usually, the mind-frame has always been "You can become whatever you want, as long as you work at it - even if you fail a test here and there." Personally, I'm all for the later. I know of plenty of people who have failed at tests here and there, or didn't bother to go to college, but still were able to go on and live happy, productive, financially-secure lives even so. I know many are working to try and change the American education system to be like much of the world has it now: more emphasis placed on tests. This, as far as I'm concerned, is a bad idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2004 10:40:34 GMT -5
Personally, I'm all for the later. I know of plenty of people who have failed at tests here and there, or didn't bother to go to college, but still were able to go on and live happy, productive, financially-secure lives even so. Example:My dad. Didn't go to college. We live with the rich people! ;D |
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Post by Crystal on Jul 10, 2004 11:13:49 GMT -5
Well, in America, the concept of "pass the test or fail at life" is a new one. Usually, the mind-frame has always been "You can become whatever you want, as long as you work at it - even if you fail a test here and there." Personally, I'm all for the later. I know of plenty of people who have failed at tests here and there, or didn't bother to go to college, but still were able to go on and live happy, productive, financially-secure lives even so. I know many are working to try and change the American education system to be like much of the world has it now: more emphasis placed on tests. This, as far as I'm concerned, is a bad idea. Oh, there are a few high-school drop outs here as well who do very well (the contractor who built our house practically drives a BMW), but they're more the exception and not the rule. I see though. Guess it is a new concept. I was born into the former, so the latter is quite foreign to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2004 13:28:37 GMT -5
Personally, I can't stand the new way in America...
I mean, I screwed up really bad in 9th grade and the first half of 10th. In 9th, I barely passed advanced algebra, but I still had a low enough score to take Geometry again in 10th. I knew everything I learned, and I did great on the assignments, but I'm a slow test taker in math, so lots of times I failed because we had a time limit!
Anyways, even if I get all A's and get a 4.0 GPA in my next two years, those other two are going to severely hurt me when I apply for college. Before it'd show colleges that I had improved over the years, and am now a better person. Now it will show them that I have a medium-range GPA. I'll barely be able to get into the college I want to go to!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2004 13:29:21 GMT -5
I just realized something: How did the "hidden" draft turn into this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2004 15:34:44 GMT -5
I just realized something: How did the "hidden" draft turn into this? That's like asking "How did number 7 eat 9?" Nobody knows... |
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Post by Chris on Jul 10, 2004 21:01:49 GMT -5
The insanity in this forum mixed with politics. Anything can happen. (even fireworks ;D))
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Post by Oily on Jul 15, 2004 13:16:33 GMT -5
Britain has a test based system anyway. We take SATs (different from American ones) at age 7, 11 and 14. We study for GCSEs from 15-16, and take both mocks and then the actual exams. We take AS Levels at 17 and A Levels at 18. The next three years for me will be studying towards tests, then taking them. And a lot of schools do end-of-year tests anyway.
People still do well without getting a single GCSE but generally, passing exams like this is considered essential for a good job.
It doesn't really work. The government dumbs down the tests so it looks like schools are getting better. Schools force students not to do GCSEs they think they might fail, or make them take GNVQs (vocational courses that are sometimes worth the equilvalent of four GCSEs!). The best schools get more money. The worst schools might be improved. The rest struggle in between.
The worst thing is the continual downgrading. We're all going to be working like stink to get the best results. But yet the results will be acknowledged as not worth the paper they're written on. For instance, just about everyone applying to Oxford/Cambridge has 3/4 As at A Level and 9 or more A* GCSEs. And they're oversubscribed several times over. So they now rely on interviews and setting their own tests to distinguish between the truly talented and those who've worked hard.
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Post by Patjade on Jul 17, 2004 7:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by Crystal on Jul 17, 2004 9:11:13 GMT -5
LMAO! I showed it to my dad and we both went XDDDDD. It's so funny! I'm bookmarking it! |
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Post by Patjade on Jul 17, 2004 10:59:54 GMT -5
It has to be one of my favorites...
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Post by Buddy on Jul 17, 2004 13:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by kuwoobie on Jul 17, 2004 20:28:01 GMT -5
From laughter to deep and utter loathing and beyond. I have never liked him as a president, or as a person.
Just another opinion...
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Jul 18, 2004 16:15:34 GMT -5
That's GREAT! *bookmarks it and watches it over and over* "You can't say nuclear. That really scares me." |
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