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Post by Tdyans on Mar 2, 2003 1:18:36 GMT -5
I very vaguely remember Tailspin. I remember there was this anthro-fox girl type, and there was also that duck/goose pilot that was also in Darkwing Duck. My dad also said that was one of the better children's cartoons. *Laughs* My oh my, these things keep on interelating ... I read somewhere that Tailspin was influenced by Castle in the Sky (or the proper Japanese title, "Tenku no Shiro Rayputa", which literally translates as "Sky's Castle Rayputa"). It's a small world after all...Really? That's quite interesting! Well, I just had to run out and search around for a while because I'd almost completely forgotten about all the non-Jungle Book characters in that show. I think the anthro-fox you're talking about was actually another bear-- Rebecca Cunningham. Kit Cloudkicker-- how could I have forgotten? Wildcat-- funny mechanic guy. Ooh, and Don Karnage (who was a fox or something like it), wonderful funny villain. And if I remember correctly, Shere Khan (btw, that's what I meant when I said Bagheera-- bad brain, bad!) was actually kind of ambiguous; not necessarily bad, although certainly not all good-- that was neat. I don't remember the duck/goose guy... Oh, do you mean Launchpad? I remember him from DuckTales, and it makes sense that he'd be in TaleSpin, but I can't recall it... Ah, I remember Darkwing Duck, too! And Rescue Rangers (or should I say R-r-r-rescue Rangers!) ;D Ah, nostalgia... I guess Disney had a heyday of afternoon cartoons, too. Either that or I'm biased.
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Post by sara on Mar 2, 2003 1:33:49 GMT -5
Ah, nostalgia... I guess Disney had a heyday of afternoon cartoons, too. Either that or I'm biased. From what I've seen, I have to agree. Not that there weren't bloopers, but in the case of a lot of them they weren't based on any paticular previous Disney work - Tailspin, Darkwing Duck, Goof Troop, etc. That's probably what saved them from the buearaucracy Oddhatter mentioned. The scriptwriters probably had fun with the stories - seeing some of the old Darkwing episodes on tape (I don't have any Tailspin, gosh darnit) they're quite a few good comedies in there - James Bond Spoofer style. And from what I remember of Tailspin, I can see the influence it could have had from Castle in the Sky. Castle in the Sky is the kind of movie I wish Disney would be making - the art isn't on a Disney level (though I suspect I saw a print which was on the lower end of mediocre - the warm section of the building is not the place to store VHS videos) though the plot and the sheer concepts behind the imagery are much better than your non-Masterpiece Disney movie. Don't worry, there's enough subtle lapses of logic and coinsidences to be quite accebtable to Disney
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Mar 2, 2003 9:42:34 GMT -5
Oh jeebus christ I recall all the stuff you were talking about! Esp. Tailspin! I think can recall 'Duck Tales' too.
Yeah Fantasia was more or less a tradition. I saw it in IMAX though. It was amazing.
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Post by sara on Mar 2, 2003 16:29:23 GMT -5
When Castle in the Sky comes out in April, I recommend renting it from your local video store. However I've heard they re-did the music for the American version of the movie, on the basis that American audiences grow uneasy when there's no music for more than 3 minutes, and there are times without music for as long as 8 minutes in the original movie. I think Disney is underestimating America - some of the silence sequences come during a suspenseful moments, and if the audience is uneasy, good! At least they got the original composer to re-do the musical score. I'll see the new dub version when convinient - it will be a big relief to not have to watch it while reading the English translation of the screenplay at the same time (real subtitles are way better, trust me). In a way, I'll be truly seeing the movie for the first time
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Post by sensei on Mar 4, 2003 8:22:47 GMT -5
Yeah Fantasia was more or less a tradition. I saw it in IMAX though. It was amazing. Fantasia happens to be the best movie ever. Fantasia 2000 wasn't bad, it just wasn't the same classic Fantasia was... I especially liked in F 2000 the whales. That part was just too awesome. I dunno. So few people value the classics and the beauty value of movies, and so many now admire the special effects, the cheap jokes, sex & nudity, and all that other stuff that entertains the modern American fluffhead. Well I say this:
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Post by sensei on Mar 4, 2003 8:26:26 GMT -5
However I've heard they re-did the music for the American version of the movie, on the basis that American audiences grow uneasy when there's no music for more than 3 minutes, and there are times without music for as long as 8 minutes in the original movie. I think Disney is underestimating America - some of the silence sequences come during a suspenseful moments, and if the audience is uneasy, good! At least they got the original composer to re-do the musical score. I love how music is used, but I love it equally with silence. Ever see North By Northwest? Great score. By Bernard Herrmann, one of those freakish composers: he made a lot of suspense-ful stuff... he was the one that made the idea for the EEE EEE EEE EEE in Psycho during the shower scene, when Hitchcock insisted that scene be silent.
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Post by noremac9 on Mar 4, 2003 10:20:48 GMT -5
I love how music is used, but I love it equally with silence. Ever see North By Northwest? Great score. By Bernard Herrmann, one of those freakish composers: he made a lot of suspense-ful stuff... he was the one that made the idea for the EEE EEE EEE EEE in Psycho during the shower scene, when Hitchcock insisted that scene be silent. North By Northwest is an INCREDIBLY good movie. A timeless classic, as those who try to sell such things would say. But honestly, it's one of my favorite movies. Great suspense, awesome twists, a riveting plot... I know, I sound like a comercial, but it really is a brilliant movie. If you haven't seen it, go out and rent it, you won't be disappointed. I personally own it on DVD... As for the score, yeah, it has a great score. In fact, the final scene wouldn't have been the same without the music. It's just one of those scenes where the music defines the action.
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Post by sensei on Mar 5, 2003 9:56:05 GMT -5
North By Northwest is an INCREDIBLY good movie. A timeless classic, as those who try to sell such things would say. But honestly, it's one of my favorite movies. Great suspense, awesome twists, a riveting plot... I know, I sound like a comercial, but it really is a brilliant movie. If you haven't seen it, go out and rent it, you won't be disappointed. I personally own it on DVD... As for the score, yeah, it has a great score. In fact, the final scene wouldn't have been the same without the music. It's just one of those scenes where the music defines the action. Uh... ditto! The only problem was that I had to do a huge project on the soundtrack in NBNW just a couple months ago. So... that sorta hurt the movie for me, since my entire class was picking apart different ideas of it so very carefully. But I still love the movie! **hugs North By Northwest** **is a really weird kid, hugging movies and all**
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Post by Hannah Rose on Mar 5, 2003 12:22:24 GMT -5
I love how music is used, but I love it equally with silence.quote] Reminds me of a quote from Peter Jackson - I think that is debatable, but I can definitely see where this was used in the LotR movies.
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Post by Hannah Rose on Mar 5, 2003 12:23:26 GMT -5
I love how music is used, but I love it equally with silence.
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Post by sara on Mar 23, 2003 21:01:05 GMT -5
What do you know? I was right about Spirited Away winning the Oscar I hope to see it in a local theater soon now that it's gone mainstream.
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Post by sensei on Mar 24, 2003 18:28:27 GMT -5
What do you know? I was right about Spirited Away winning the Oscar I hope to see it in a local theater soon now that it's gone mainstream. Yeah. I finally ended up putting my money on Spirited Away, but it made me sorta made. Lilo & Stitch was such a wonderful movie. But I still don't think either of those movies would've survived last year against Monsters Inc and Shrek.
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Post by sensei on Mar 24, 2003 18:42:20 GMT -5
There's only a few things I'm pretty sure of: 1) The Chubbchubbs! will win Animated Short. 2) Jack Nicholson will win Best Actor 3) Meryl Streep will win Best Supporting Actress 4) The Hours will win at least two awards. 5) LOTR will win at least one award. 6) Spiderman will win at least one award. (ADD-ON) 7) Frida will win makeup. Post your ideas! I am so psyched... (and I'm gonna be in warm, sunny Maui when they are presented ) Well, I got 3 out of 7. Meryl Streep and Jack Nicholson didn't win (to many people's suprise), but I guessed Nicole Kidman right. And Spiderman didn't get any. Oh well, it wasn't THAT good. And LOTR won two: Sound Editing and Visual Effects (two categories everyone figured it for). The Hours won only won, which I said before (Nicole Kidman). And The Chubbchubbs! won! Yay! (great little movie) I think the Academy recognized Nia Vardalos so much before and during the ceremony because they were pretty sure that she wouldn't win. Even though My Big Fat Greek Wedding was a fantastic movie. (I think she should've been nominated for Best Actress, but oh well.) And I think about a half dozen old people keeled over and died when Eminem won the award for Best Song. But even I thought it was a pretty good song, and it fit the qualities I think the Song Winner should have: someone in the movie should have done work on it to some degree, someone in the movie (preferably the main character) should sing it, and IT SHOULD REPRESENT THE MOVIE! The next best choice was U2 for Gangs of New York, but it wasn't sung by a character, and it really didn't fit the movie. By the way, those reasons I listed above do match last year's winner: Monsters Inc (it was a friendship song similar to that of Toy Story, which also won Best Song). So yeah. I'm still waiting to see an animated film nominated for Best Picture, like Beauty and the Beast. Maybe it'll be a Neopets movie ;D
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Post by Tdyans on Mar 24, 2003 18:58:39 GMT -5
And I think about a half dozen old people keeled over and died when Eminem won the award for Best Song. But even I thought it was a pretty good song, and it fit the qualities I think the Song Winner should have: someone in the movie should have done work on it to some degree, someone in the movie (preferably the main character) should sing it, and IT SHOULD REPRESENT THE MOVIE! The next best choice was U2 for Gangs of New York, but it wasn't sung by a character, and it really didn't fit the movie. Personally, I thought there were a lot of better choices in that category, but I'm biased seeing as how I'm not an Eminem fan by far. I actually liked the Paul Simon song-- that was a sweet little song that I'd never heard all the way through before and I have a soft spot for Paul Simon. I didn't seriously expect it to win, but it would have been a nice surprise. I don't really see why someone in the movie has to have worked on the song-- most songwriters are not also actors, or at least shouldn't be. I don't remember that song actually being sung in the movie-- just during the credits. EDIT: Oh yeah, and I don't think Toy Story won best song, because the guy who won for Monsters Inc. also wrote the songs for Toy Story and last year was his first Oscar win. Well, now that they have a category specifically for best animated movie, I don't know if that will ever happen again. And nothing so corporately-sponsored as a Neopets movie would ever stand a chance.
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Post by Tdyans on Mar 24, 2003 19:03:12 GMT -5
The one thing that I really wanted to see was for Adaptation to win for best screenplay. We'll never have the opportunity to give an imaginary person an Oscar again. *sigh* I love how when they were showing the pictures of the writers, they mirrored Charlie Kaufman's picture. Well, I knew it had an impossible amount of competition, but it still would have been cool...
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