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Post by Tdyans on Feb 12, 2003 1:09:32 GMT -5
It's no great movie, but it's not bad ofr entertainment. That pretty much sums it up. It kept my friend and I interested enough that we whispered fewer snide comments to each other than we normally do during movies (we've seen some baaad movies.) The one part that we couldn't resist commenting on (I don't think I'm ruining anything for those who haven't seen it) was when Spiderman goes into the burning building to save the old lady who is so obviously the Green Goblin in disguise. I couldn't help but say (for Spiderman): "Why is your head so pointy?"
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Post by noremac9 on Feb 12, 2003 1:28:30 GMT -5
That pretty much sums it up. It kept my friend and I interested enough that we whispered fewer snide comments to each other than we normally do during movies (we've seen some baaad movies.) The one part that we couldn't resist commenting on (I don't think I'm ruining anything for those who haven't seen it) was when Spiderman goes into the burning building to save the old lady who is so obviously the Green Goblin in disguise. I couldn't help but say (for Spiderman): "Why is your head so pointy?" LOL - I couldn't help but say the exact same thing. Well, I actually said something along the lines of, "Oh, right, a Pointy-headed old woman..." I always make snide comments, but quitely enough that I've never been bothered by anyone about it (which is amazing, considering the amount of snide remarks I make). There was another part I couldn't resist, but I can't recall it now... -Noremac9
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Post by sensei on Feb 12, 2003 10:17:48 GMT -5
If they shift to just being a distributor of other studio's movies (Pixar, Studio Ghibli, etc.) and try to have some good standards as far as what movies they distribute (both of the Toy Story movies are great, but I don't care for anything else I've seen from Pixar) then they could get even more prestige, as well as raise the bar for animated movies. I think this would be a fine direction for Disney to move towards. Hate to say it, but Pixar's next project is going to be seperate from Disney. (Actually, I don't hate to say it ) They actually wanted to Monsters Inc without any Disney involvement, but they still hadn't conjured up the budget enough. But you're right... they're losing power. Dreamworks has become so poular... and if you ask someone what they think the best animated movie in the past 10 years was, they'd probably say Shrek. (it was such a magnificent movie, was it not?) (Okay, they may also say Aladdin, but whoop-de-doo! I'm trying to prove a point.) Not to mention Pixar, and even in a few ways, Nickolodeon (they stole the really young kids from Disney; Pixar stole the pre-teens, and Dreamworks stole the teens and older, with the mere exception of Spirit.) It's funny that all these companies are jumping the Feature Animated Film boat now that the Oscar for it is around... LOTR DESERVES VISUAL EFFECTS, AND AT LEAST ONE OTHER THING. BAH! And Spiderman's gonna win Sound. And I suspect the homo-phobe blondie is gonna win Best Song.
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Post by sensei on Feb 12, 2003 10:20:57 GMT -5
LOL - I couldn't help but say the exact same thing. Well, I actually said something along the lines of, "Oh, right, a Pointy-headed old woman..." I always make snide comments, but quitely enough that I've never been bothered by anyone about it (which is amazing, considering the amount of snide remarks I make). There was another part I couldn't resist, but I can't recall it now... -Noremac9 When my brother saw it for the second time, he kept screaming at all the "scary" cliche parts. And then at the end, he yelled "A hot girl is in your arms and you say 'NO'?! Wall-crawling moron!!!" Hee hee SNORT
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Feb 12, 2003 10:22:34 GMT -5
Sprited away was just so beautiful. If anyone can see it (even try to download it off the net) do so, it's just brilliant! It was the best thing I'd ever seen. It gets rather sidetracked and has some loose ends, but it's the type of movie that at the end, it's just perfect. The nice thing about it is that it's not disney. Disney has just dominated the market for so long that it's nice to see anime get the reginoition it deserves (and I'm not sayving this because I'm a biased anime fan, honest! ^_^)I'm really pleased with the animation nominations. Lilo and Stitch was a beautiful movie. The animation was wonderful (you rarely see the handdone backgrounds, so it was nice to see it brought back), and it wasen't the usual Disney trash of dragging back some classic only to shake it out of a few more pennies. In the end, I'm going to root for Sprited Away. IT do hope it wins, it was just brilliant. ^_^ I'm attached to Lilo and Stitch, so that should win Co-Oscar, just because I'm biased. ^__~; Random Lilo and Stitch Fact: L&S was the first disney animated film since dumbo to be done in watercolours. That's right folks, watercolours. I'm still rooting for Treasure Planet though, but that's beacause Morph is the jello god. Oh, and I loved T.P.'s computer animation... some of it was specatular. (I.E. What I currently have as my user lookup. Plus Disney had the first two anthros in american animation in that movie!)
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Feb 12, 2003 11:52:54 GMT -5
I hope LOTR wins ALL of the awards it's nominated for. It was so completely awesome beyond belief. I suppose I could live with it not winning best motion picture, though, as long as The Return of the King does instead. As for full-length animated film: I REALLY enjoyed Lilo and Stitch and believe that it is one of the best animated movies ever made, but. . . something in my heart wants Spirit to win that award. Spirit was a real break-through in the way that animals are portrayed in movies: usually movies about animals aren't really about animals at all, but about this little anthropomorhpic human-minded furry creatures that are only shown as animals to make the movie "cuter" and "more interesting." Spirit, on the other hand, showed the wild horses how they really were: not at all human, but not sub-human either, un-talking,yet still communicating, not human-minded and yet still incredibly intelligent. That movie really touched my soul in a way that animated movies seldom do. it wasn't exactly a "great movie", but the message was loud and clear and the animals were more realistic than they have ever been. Unfortunately, i know in my heart that the Stallion of the Cimaron will not be taking home an oscar because Lilo and Stitch and (according to all of you) Spirited away are some of the toughest competition imaginable. Really, the contest is between those two: Spirit doesn't even stand a chance. *sigh* If only it had come out some other year. If only.
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Post by Linnen Malfoy on Feb 12, 2003 14:43:49 GMT -5
Spiderman wasn't bad for a superhero movie-- I suppose it helps that I didn't go in with high expectations so as long as it kept me entertained, I was happy. As far as special effects go, though, I think it would be LOTR hands down. Its special effects just felt more natural to me than those in either of the other two movies. The special effects were good in Spiderman, but it was just very akward when he was jumping from building to building. It just looked very forced, not that fluid or natural... LOTR has wonderful special effects. Very natural and it didn't look like a blue screen. -_- Gollum/Smeegle (I'm killing his name, so sorry ) was easily one of the best CGI characters I have seen by far (His neat little split personality shot was one of the best things about that movie!). There was a rumor that they were going to nominate him for best supporting actor (The voice actor's movements were recorded when he would crawl around like Gollum would), but alas...they did not. ;_; I am disgusted with the makeup choices. My friend (who is a very big make-up buff) was praticaly livid at the choices. I'm rather mad too, I hated The Time Machine, it HONESTLY had no point (by the end of the movie, I was ready to go, it was just stupid). LOTR should have been in it for make-up, but it wasen't. Feh >P Hate to say it, but Pixar's next project is going to be seperate from Disney. (Actually, I don't hate to say it ) They actually wanted to Monsters Inc without any Disney involvement, but they still hadn't conjured up the budget enough. I can't wait to see Finding Nemo. The trailers I've seen were great. ^_^ I'm also curious about the short film at the start of it. Pixar makes some of the best shorts I've ever seen (Grimis's Game was just WONDERFUL). Heck, thats half the reason that Pixar rocks right there!
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Post by Tdyans on Feb 12, 2003 14:52:25 GMT -5
... and if you ask someone what they think the best animated movie in the past 10 years was, they'd probably say Shrek. (it was such a magnificent movie, was it not?) (Okay, they may also say Aladdin, but whoop-de-doo! I'm trying to prove a point.) I would say neither of those. Lion King, anyone? I believe it's the highest-grossing animated movie ever, and for good reason. I'd also gravitate toward Beauty and the Beast, if that's within your 10 year span. Shrek was good, but I suppose it was built up too much before I finally saw it, so I wasn't really all *that* impressed. I actually liked Monsters Inc. more. Still, I agree that Shrek was probably one of the best animated movies in the past few years, but other than that, most Dreamworks stuff hasn't impressed me all that much. I guess I'm still clinging hopefully to Disney, although they've had some dismal years. I'm a hopeless fan, tainted by nostalgia.
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Post by sensei on Feb 12, 2003 15:31:07 GMT -5
I would say neither of those. Lion King, anyone? I believe it's the highest-grossing animated movie ever, and for good reason. I'd also gravitate toward Beauty and the Beast, if that's within your 10 year span. Shrek was good, but I suppose it was built up too much before I finally saw it, so I wasn't really all *that* impressed. I actually liked Monsters Inc. more. Still, I agree that Shrek was probably one of the best animated movies in the past few years, but other than that, most Dreamworks stuff hasn't impressed me all that much. I guess I'm still clinging hopefully to Disney, although they've had some dismal years. I'm a hopeless fan, tainted by nostalgia. Lion King is the highest grossing animated movie. Closely followed by Shrek, Toy Story 2, and Monsters Inc (Okay, so I screwed up... but Shrek is still a classic.) And I forgot about the first Toy Story... another wonder. But if you ask me, I'd say the best animated film ever is Fantasia or Snow White... One thing I wanted to point out... do you think this year's Animated contenders would have stood up to the two biggies from last year? I can't say anything about Spirited Away, but if you ask me, Monsters Inc and Lilo & Stitch are just about neck and neck... maybe thats just me though. And the whole Dumbo thing... my brother got my family a "Making of Lilo & Stitch" book for Christmas, and it said that the animators had Dumbo in mind when they were creating it.
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Feb 12, 2003 15:35:31 GMT -5
Lion King is the highest grossing animated movie. Closely followed by Shrek, Toy Story 2, and Monsters Inc (Okay, so I screwed up... but Shrek is still a classic.) And I forgot about the first Toy Story... another wonder. But if you ask me, I'd say the best animated film ever is Fantasia or Snow White... One thing I wanted to point out... do you think this year's Animated contenders would have stood up to the two biggies from last year? I can't say anything about Spirited Away, but if you ask me, Monsters Inc and Lilo & Stitch are just about neck and neck... maybe thats just me though. And the whole Dumbo thing... my brother got my family a "Making of Lilo & Stitch" book for Christmas, and it said that the animators had Dumbo in mind when they were creating it. That is true. I've read much about Lilo and Stitch's animation.
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Feb 12, 2003 15:58:19 GMT -5
I would say neither of those. Lion King, anyone? I believe it's the highest-grossing animated movie ever, and for good reason. I'd also gravitate toward Beauty and the Beast, if that's within your 10 year span. Shrek was good, but I suppose it was built up too much before I finally saw it, so I wasn't really all *that* impressed. I actually liked Monsters Inc. more. Still, I agree that Shrek was probably one of the best animated movies in the past few years, but other than that, most Dreamworks stuff hasn't impressed me all that much. I guess I'm still clinging hopefully to Disney, although they've had some dismal years. I'm a hopeless fan, tainted by nostalgia. i'd be stuck between Monsters Inc and Lilo and Stitch for best animated movie of the past 10 years. Monsters Inc was much better than I could ever have expected, weird plot or no. How they managed to make Boo so absolutely adorible is still be on me. And Lilo and Stitch had me in Stitches. I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard at a movie. Not to mention, it was incredibly cute and sweet. The only problem with it was that something in the way the story line flowed was just unbelievable (literally, I mean). I don't think I - or anyone I know for that matter - would have taken having had my house explode, finding out my dog was an alien, meeting to other aliens, and having my little sister abducted by yet ANOTHER alien in stride like Nana did.
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Post by Tdyans on Feb 12, 2003 16:24:22 GMT -5
I think part of the secret to Boo's appeal was that she was so much like a real little kid-- babbling nonsense, making up little songs and such. In a lot of animated movies you get kids that aren't that realistic-- they can speak in perfectly constructed sentences despite being only three. In fact, on the DVD's special features, they show the storyboards for the original idea and the little girl was older than Boo and very much like that stereotypical hyper-intelligent cartoon kid (and Sully was just a grunt-worker instead of the star scarer). It was a totally different movie at the outset and it definitely changed for the better. Plus the animation wowed me--mainly Sully's fur. Just as I liked Monsters Inc. for Boo, I liked Lilo and Stitch for Lilo. She was realistic and different from the stereotypical cartoon kid in a whole different way. Everything she did and said was just immensely entertaining while still being believable.
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Feb 12, 2003 16:53:55 GMT -5
Just as I liked Monsters Inc. for Boo, I liked Lilo and Stitch for Lilo. She was realistic and different from the stereotypical cartoon kid in a whole different way. Everything she did and said was just immensely entertaining while still being believable. Yes, Lilo was a very believable character. Not that it's saying much (or anything at all, for that matter), but she was definitely the most believable character in that movie. Nana, as I have stated before, was totally UNbelievable, as was her boyfriend. They were just too unshakable. However, despite Lilo's appeal, Stitch himself really stole the show for me. How you ever seen any cartoon creature so cute and sweet and horrible? LoL. My favorite moments from the movie: 10. The sequence where Nana rushes home to make it to the CPA inspection only to find Lilo has boarded up the house. Then the CPA agent arrives. . . Anyway, I wish I could quote it all, but my memory isn't that good. 9. The wordless sequence on the beach where Stitch tries to be a part of the family by going surfing with Lilo and Nana. 8."My friends need to be punished." - Lilo to Mr. Bubbles as she puts spoons with her friends faces drawn on them into a jar of pickle brine, with a book entitled "Practical Voo-Doo" haphazardly strew accorss the floor in front of her. 7. The whole conversation about "sandwich day" between Lilo and her dance teacher. I wish I could quote it all, but my memory isn't that good. 6. "I just remembered! It's your birthday! Happy birthday!""Merry Christmas!""It's not Christmas!""HAPPY HANNUKAH!" - Jamba and Stitch, franticly trying to get rid of a clogged plasma gun that's about to explode in their hands. 5. Stitch wearing Nana's bikini on his head and a towel as his cape and pretending to be superman - then running into Nana's knees 4. "I'd put you back together again! Make you taller. . . and not so. . . fluffy.""I like fluffy!" - Jamba and Stitch 3."You are (something)! You are (something)! You are FLAT!""Also CUTE. And Cuddly!"- Captain whats-his-name (the guy with the head like a shark) and Stitch, as the former tries to pound the latter into the ground and the latter ends up throwing the former out of the window of his spaceship. 2. "Hello Mr. Bubbles? Aliens are attacking my house. I think they're after my dog. Oh, good! My dog found a chainsaw!" - Lilo (who else?) 1."You're very destructive. Why don't you try making something instead.""Hmmm. . .""Woe! San Fransisco." "Heh heh heh." *STOMP! STOMP!*
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Post by Linnen Malfoy on Feb 12, 2003 16:54:14 GMT -5
In fact, on the DVD's special features, they show the storyboards for the original idea and the little girl was older than Boo and very much like that stereotypical hyper-intelligent cartoon kid (and Sully was just a grunt-worker instead of the star scarer). It was a totally different movie at the outset and it definitely changed for the better. I saw all of those storyboards as well. I was suprised at how much the story changed, and it did for the better. It wouldn't nearly have had the same effect that it has now if some of the orginal ideas went through... I shutter to think what that movie wouldn have been like if some of those ideas went through...X__x As for Shrek. It was good, but the problem with it is that it bases some stuff off pop culture. When time goes on, the fact that it's not in people's mainstream kind of dilutes from the movie... It was good, but in the past 10 years there have been MUCH better animated movies. Shrek was good, but not that good. I'm also disgusted with Shrek and Lilo and Stitch right now. Motsly because Disney and Dreamworks are making sequils to them... Eurgh...
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Feb 12, 2003 17:01:58 GMT -5
I saw all of those storyboards as well. I was suprised at how much the story changed, and it did for the better. It wouldn't nearly have had the same effect that it has now if some of the orginal ideas went through... I shutter to think what that movie wouldn have been like if some of those ideas went through...X__x As for Shrek. It was good, but the problem with it is that it bases some stuff off pop culture. When time goes on, the fact that it's not in people's mainstream kind of dilutes from the movie... It was good, but in the past 10 years there have been MUCH better animated movies. Shrek was good, but not that good. I'm also disgusted with Shrek and Lilo and Stitch right now. Motsly because Disney and Dreamworks are making sequils to them... Eurgh...Nothing wrong with sequals linny. Except for the fact they stink 99% of the time
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