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Post by Zoey on Mar 16, 2018 20:42:06 GMT -5
I have no use for my R90+ items other than CC so I'm okay with that.
But I'm looking forward to, say, "30% discount at the HT" boons and such. XD
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Post by Rabbit ♠ on Mar 16, 2018 20:48:25 GMT -5
*looks away from boards*
Everything's fine.
Seriously, I'm curious to see what these boons are. They seem interesting. (I doubt I could get any of the ones I really want, since I never get enough points for that sort of thing during events, but still.)
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Post by doctortomoe on Mar 16, 2018 20:57:55 GMT -5
I still have a ton of non r90's I can donate that will really help clean things out.
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Post by Carolyn on Mar 16, 2018 21:05:04 GMT -5
I'm hoping for a retired avatar boon. Or, idk, one FFQ boon? I'm honestly not sure what I would like.
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Post by Moni on Mar 16, 2018 21:06:29 GMT -5
Man, I shouldn't have bought that salt lamp yesterday.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Mar 16, 2018 23:23:34 GMT -5
So, I have two thoughts going through my mind:
No Item Reward: Ugh, not sure I agree with this. Certainly they needed a way to both decrease the amount of rare items being introduced to prevent their value from crashing and also giving players who couldn't afford donating constant r90+ items a chance to try their luck, but I don't think just stopping altogether was the solution. As we've discussed, "capsule machines" worth a certain amount of points (more than donating a set of r90+ items would give) would have been a nice compromise. Because, while the value of these items will now be retained, it also means these items are going to stay as rare as they are now and for some of these items that means they're unbuyable. While I'm willing to give this new system a try, next year's Charity Corner has to have some way to reward item prizes (if they don't want us to use prize points to do so, have it be random occurrences from Neopian characters).
Perk Shop: So, instead of items we're getting "perks". I wish we were told a few perks so we could understand what to expect. Are the perks like the Obelisk's Boons? Once activated they last for a certain amount of time? If so, how long? Until next Charity Corner? It has to last a significant amount of time (well, I guess it'll depend on the point cost) for it to be worth it. Now I like the idea of them being like instant access to the Rainbow Pool or, I don't know, one use of the Lab Ray or instant Faerie Quest (though that may overstep on the Faerie Quest Fortune Cookie); but even I'm struggling to think of a perk shop full of those that'll be satisfying for everyone.
Another concern I have is that they have a really good chance of accidentally messing something up. If this was being done by old TNT fine, but I still question JS's grasp on the site and how one thing may affect another in an unintended way for the uneducated (like them giving HT level weapons out for free during a battling plot they told us months in advance to prepare for). Like, if they decide to have a "Redeem a free Avatar" perk that could really mess with certain value put on Avatars even if it's only for retired Avatars (it's not a bad idea, but it would have to be from a list made by someone who knows what certain Avatars mean to players).
What happens to unspent points? Now we were told we can turn any extra points in NC which is great to hear (though, once again, how much NC will we get for a certain amount of points? They have to hit the balance of making it feel like its worth exchanging points for NC while also not devaluing NC that players normally bought. It's a tightrope burning on two ends that is understandable why TNT never crossed). But, that's if we choose to do so. What if we have leftover points and it's coming to next Charity Corner? Are we going to lose those points once next Charity Corner starts/ends? Will that Perk Shop be different from this one so this one can stay? Will points be carried over? This goes back to the question about what kind of perks are we expecting. If they're perks which have a time limit/can be re-activate obviously we wouldn't want to activate them until we think we can use them best so we might be sitting on our perks until next year. And if the points will be lost and players are thus forced to redeem any perk they can/exchange it for NC that might upset a lot of players who never felt they needed the perk just yet and now has to redeem something or else lose out on their investment (which they're going to feel anyway).
Is when we redeem a perk going to matter? This goes back to the time limit question, if the perk say lasts until next Charity Corner that obviously means getting it asap. But what if you're not sure you want that perk? If you decide you do, you'll feel like you lost points because you're not going to get the full effect of the perk.
Can you stack multiple perks? And say if they have an instant access to the Rainbow Pool or Lab Ray, if you redeem more than one at a time will it count you bought more than one or could you accidentally waste points redeeming a perk you already have.
So I have like 56k points right now. Guess I'll keep donating, though hearing this I may not donate as much.
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Post by Huntress on Mar 17, 2018 6:32:29 GMT -5
Another concern I have is that they have a really good chance of accidentally messing something up. If this was being done by old TNT fine, but I still question JS's grasp on the site and how one thing may affect another in an unintended way for the uneducated (like them giving HT level weapons out for free during a battling plot they told us months in advance to prepare for). I feel compelled to point out that you're viewing the Battledome-ness of this plot from your really-rather-high-end-battler perspective. When the opponents were released, the boards were full of people struggling to defeat the easiest level even with the shiny freebies; if the plot had been made at the level to give you any need to prepare then a good 95% of the playerbase would've just dropped the whole event like a hot potato xP As for the Perk Shop of Much Debate, I agree that it would've been smart to announce that upfront, although I'm also inclined to think that perks might be preferable to yet more shiny expensive items of the sort we just went and sunk. Depends entirely on the perks, how usable they are, and most importantly how varied they are. The glory of Neopets is that you can play it a myriad of different ways, but it also means that different people will value different things. I don't even know what I'd like... an option to move pets between accounts with all their paintbrush clothes on would be pretty neat. Or a way to revert pets to unconverted forms (man, the boards would go ballistic). Growing pains are probably unavoidable, anyway. Remember when the NC Mall was first released? NC and NC items originally expired within a year and there was a whole lot of kerfluffle involved before they changed it and made purchases permanent. Plot twist: the only prize will be an announcement that we all get a warm feeling of generosity =D |
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Post by Carolyn on Mar 17, 2018 10:40:08 GMT -5
Well, if a Facebook poster can be believed, they were saying that "a family member works for the site" and that hypothetically, one would want to get to 19,000 points. For reasons. And that apparently the boons are permanent, and that there are over 10. We shall see, but I guess I'll aim for 19,000. I just need to find a few movies to watch, haha.
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Post by Breakingchains on Mar 17, 2018 11:49:17 GMT -5
Well, if a Facebook poster can be believed, they were saying that "a family member works for the site" and that hypothetically, one would want to get to 19,000 points. For reasons. And that apparently the boons are permanent, and that there are over 10. We shall see, but I guess I'll aim for 19,000. I just need to find a few movies to watch, haha. That sounds pretty suspect. But either way I hope it's not that high. I barely managed 5.5k points with what was in my SDB, and I'm not sure I can do the time commitment right now to buy enough items to almost-quadruple that. |
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Post by Carolyn on Mar 17, 2018 11:55:41 GMT -5
It does, alas. I'm sure there will be plenty of fine boons at a variety of prize point values. I've seen some people with over 100,000 points and I'm mildly concerned for them, ahaha.
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Mar 17, 2018 12:53:05 GMT -5
Well, if a Facebook poster can be believed, they were saying that "a family member works for the site" and that hypothetically, one would want to get to 19,000 points. For reasons. And that apparently the boons are permanent, and that there are over 10. We shall see, but I guess I'll aim for 19,000. I just need to find a few movies to watch, haha. As Breakingchains mentioned, yeah, it's highly suspect. Convenient that this person knows some of the exact details of what to expect. You would have thought that said 'family member' would be able to keep their mouths shut (and it's probably something TNT, whether Viacom or Jumpstart, would have done everything in their power to prevent these from happening) Still, leaks have proven to be somewhat accurate. I just hope that the boons are not controversial |
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Post by Zoey on Mar 17, 2018 13:29:18 GMT -5
If the rumor is true (which is highly suspect at this point, and I think that if someone on the board has already mentioned it and the board blows up, the team will probably scramble the point reward system so that it's not predictable), my personal guesses are a) 19k points buys all the boons, b) 19k gets you an avatar, or c) both.
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Post by Carolyn on Mar 17, 2018 14:58:43 GMT -5
If it's 19k for the avvy, that would be... yikes.
To be honest, both my supply and my patience for this monotonous donating has been waning. I think my original goal of 12345 stands. Because nice numbers.
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Post by Rabbit ♠ on Mar 17, 2018 15:07:42 GMT -5
I'm really excited to see what these boons may be.  They sound interesting. As for reaching this goal said by this person, I think I'm in good shape. I'm at around 16k right now and I'm still clearing stuff out. Good thing I'm on spring break. |D On a related note, my SDB shrunk by more than half. |
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Post by Fraze on Mar 17, 2018 15:39:20 GMT -5
19000 points would be kind of random for an avatar. But then, it's kind of not random enough to be what you'd need to buy every boon. We can reasonably expect the usual prize shop logic where there's one or a few prizes for 1 point just to make sure that everyone who did absolutely anything would get something, and then prizes get steadily more expensive from there, up to the most expensive ones which are usually some number of thousands of points. It seems unlikely that all those values would add up to a nice round-ish number.
(Unless it's supposed to be about 19000 points, which has the makings of an epic troll move if the actual total needed for all prizes is say 19146 and then someone who stopped at exactly 19000 will rage because they can't quiiite get everything.)
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They sound interesting.