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Post by Duke Pikachu on Mar 11, 2018 19:19:33 GMT -5
The marquee for this upcoming Charity Corner had be discovered! (The rest of this pose will be in a spoiler)  Wait, you mean this plot actually has the Wraiths causing damage instead of just mildly annoying the Faeries!  So, they've said they're doing things differently this year. Now the marquee only mentions how she'll be rewarding our generosity will be different but we shouldn't assume the method hadn't also changed. So, let's start there first: method. How previous years worked was Granny Hopbobbin asked for five item categories and we donated five items in a category based on their rarity range: r1-69, r70-79, r80-89, and r90-99. So, plenty of ways to change the method that it's kind of pointless to speculate. What I will say that at the very least they should keep the rarity ranges, those are alright as they do help with deciding what the type of reward should be. So, that comes to the rewarding. Previously, the reward was you got a random item within the rarity range of the items you donated that also wasn't an item in that category (plus final prizes depending on how much you donated). So, how could they make this different? Well, the main way everyone is thinking that instead of items we get prize points (and depending on the tier depends on how many prize points we get). Now what we would do with these prize points is another wide array of ideas: a prize shop full of unique items, several capsule machines of different categories and values that you can use the points on to get a random item in that category (something like food and toys would be 1 point while something like Collectibles (Stamps and other album items/TCG cards/Collectible Cards) would be 25 points). Obviously we can't judge until we know and not until the end of the event. The reason to change the ways things are done is to prevent items, especially r90+ items, from having their prices skyrocket (and lessening the deflation of rare items though that's not that much of a concern). Also this may give a way for r100+ items to be donated and selected one to be rewarded. |
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Post by doctortomoe on Mar 11, 2018 19:28:52 GMT -5
The marquee for this upcoming Charity Corner had be discovered! (The rest of this pose will be in a spoiler) Wait, you mean this plot actually has the Wraiths causing damage instead of just mildly annoying the Faeries! So, they've said they're doing things differently this year. Now the marquee only mentions how she'll be rewarding our generosity will be different but we shouldn't assume the method hadn't also changed. So, let's start there first: method. How previous years worked was Granny Hopbobbin asked for five item categories and we donated five items in a category based on their rarity range: r1-69, r70-79, r80-89, and r90-99. So, plenty of ways to change the method that it's kind of pointless to speculate. What I will say that at the very least they should keep the rarity ranges, those are alright as they do help with deciding what the type of reward should be. So, that comes to the rewarding. Previously, the reward was you got a random item within the rarity range of the items you donated that also wasn't an item in that category (plus final prizes depending on how much you donated). So, how could they make this different? Well, the main way everyone is thinking that instead of items we get prize points (and depending on the tier depends on how many prize points we get). Now what we would do with these prize points is another wide array of ideas: a prize shop full of unique items, several capsule machines of different categories and values that you can use the points on to get a random item in that category (something like food and toys would be 1 point while something like Collectibles (Stamps and other album items/TCG cards/Collectible Cards) would be 25 points). Obviously we can't judge until we know and not until the end of the event. The reason to change the ways things are done is to prevent items, especially r90+ items, from having their prices skyrocket (and lessening the deflation of rare items though that's not that much of a concern). Also this may give a way for r100+ items to be donated and selected one to be rewarded. I do so hope that we can finally donate r101 items.
And I hope they still give away r99s. My stamp collection needs it. |
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Post by smudgeoffudge on Mar 12, 2018 3:17:18 GMT -5
I have a question about how to donate. Can I donate 5 rarity 90 in a row? Or do I have to do one 70, one 75, one 80, one 85 and then one 90? I am trying to stock up on whatever is rarity 90 and want to do 5 90's in a row.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Mar 12, 2018 5:45:46 GMT -5
I have a question about how to donate. Can I donate 5 rarity 90 in a row? Or do I have to do one 70, one 75, one 80, one 85 and then one 90? I am trying to stock up on whatever is rarity 90 and want to do 5 90's in a row. It would be 5 r90+ items. Also, be aware that there's a range of 5 depending on the first item's rarity. Say the first item you select if r93, that means the next item you donate would have to be between rarity 93-97. Also, the next donated item cannot have a lower rarity than the previous. So if the second item is say r95, that means the remaining donations must be between rarity 95 and 97 (since the first donation is still r93). I know, it's confusing, I don't know what they made it that way, but it's how it works. Easiest thing to do is just donate items that are the same rarity. But exactly what is your plan? Since they're changing how it works we have no idea what they'll ask us to do. Who knows if there is still a tier system (though I think they would at the very least keep that). Also previous Charity Corner only asked for donations of specific item categories and there's no telling what these categories may be (and who knows if that's how this new Charity Corner works). You can buy r90+ items now if you want to take a gamble as even now they're increasing in price, but be warned you're gambling on Charity Corner still working with a tier and depending on the item categories you buy (if that also is still a factor). If you're curious, here's what the categories of previous years were like: Charity Corner 2014: Only Toys (this was the very first Charity Corner and was originally a December holiday event) Charity Corner 2015: Books & Clothing (was "Back To School" themed) Charity Corner 2017: Books, Drinks, Food, Neohome, & Gifts (no solid theme) If there are categories, considering the theme is helping those afflicted by the Wraith attacks, I'd say money is good on Food and Clothes at least (maybe Neohome stuff). Many are also predicting Battledome Equipment too though that's a gamble. |
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Post by Zoey on Mar 12, 2018 9:30:08 GMT -5
If it were me, I'd venture a guess to say pretty much everything is needed after a war. Except possibly more mouths to feed so sorry, petpets. D:
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Post by Huntress on Mar 12, 2018 10:37:54 GMT -5
What I like about Charity Corner as an event is that it's now firmly established as a changing purpose every time. So it can be adjusted to make all sorts of community get-togethers. Although going by meta-reasons, food and books are an odd thing to suck into an item sink, they're one-use and commonly usable anyway. If the idea is to remove unwanted items from circulation then we still need to have a weapon drive (yep, still rooting for that xD) and mebbe the grooming items (errybody wants to feel pretty after a war, right?), instruments (I have three cellos, why even) and petpets (but there's basically no way to spin that into an event without enormous unfortunate implications). Granny Hopbobbin's Delicious Meat Pies, get 'em while they're morally questionable.The marquee for this upcoming Charity Corner had be discovered! (The rest of this pose will be in a spoiler) Wait, you mean this plot actually has the Wraiths causing damage instead of just mildly annoying the Faeries! *ears perk* Ooh, I've had a thought I've been toying with and this now lends credence to it.
Since we don't have a plot comic for Wraith Resurgence, the vast majority of the plot we've been getting has been by way of faerie dialogue. And that's like getting info on the War of the Ring entirely from the elves. Like, they're not unreliable, but they're old, and powerful, and have already seen a whole lot, and so they'll get together being all beautifully distraught and discuss endlessly how very terrible this whole war is and how much everyone has suffered, et cetera, but they're not really selling it because their perspective is distant due to being all beautifully-detached. Kaia is a bit more of an Arwen here, but still part of the same perspective. LotR needed the Fellowship to actually get down to the thick of the events, and Faeries' Ruin had the ragtag bunch of vagabonds (did Hanso ever give them a wacky team name? I can't remember off the top of my head but it feels like a Hanso thing to do) to provide the actual human perspective.
Would've been much more fun if the faerie dialogue we've been seeing to serve the plot had been all comical manga-style overreactions with harangued screaming, sweatdrops and thunderclouds-of-doom, but I'll grant that my taste in entertainment is kind of simple xD |
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Post by smudgeoffudge on Mar 12, 2018 12:39:26 GMT -5
So for example, if I think we are donating furniture, I could donate 5 of the same chair in a row? That is, if the system of donating remains the same as before. That was sort of my plan, to buy multiples of the same item.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Mar 12, 2018 12:39:38 GMT -5
THE FAQ IS UP! IT'S POINT BASED WITH A PRIZE SHIP AT THE END! You can check out JN for all the details, but here's the basic information: 1. Theme is "Make A Difference", helping those affected by the Wraith attacks. 2. It will run from March 12th (starting 10 NST) to March 23rd (ending at 10 NST), so 11 days long. 3. Rarity will earn you more points. 4. You can donate any category of items (though not known if they're accepting r100+ items just yet). 5. In addition to a prize shop there will be trophy and bonus prizes. So there you have it! It's 10 NST right now and the marquee is showing, though when you click on it just leads to the main page so doesn't seem ready just yet. BTW, the NC Portion (Giveaway Hamper Centre) is live! You can donate NC items now and get "donation recipes" then buy from the gift shop. To buy one of each of the NC items (excluding doubles) you'll need 34 donation recipes. What I like about Charity Corner as an event is that it's now firmly established as a changing purpose every time. So it can be adjusted to make all sorts of community get-togethers. Although going by meta-reasons, food and books are an odd thing to suck into an item sink, they're one-use and commonly usable anyway. If the idea is to remove unwanted items from circulation then we still need to have a weapon drive (yep, still rooting for that xD) and mebbe the grooming items (errybody wants to feel pretty after a war, right?), instruments (I have three cellos, why even) and petpets (but there's basically no way to spin that into an event without enormous unfortunate implications). Granny Hopbobbin's Delicious Meat Pies, get 'em while they're morally questionable.There's plenty of spare books floating around, especially thanks to the Battledome and King Hagan among other places. And with Omelettes, Jellies, the free food places, and Golden Dubloon, the same can be said for all the other food items you're given but probably never going to use. But, it sounds like this Charity Corner ain't gonna be picky about that! It would be at least better than the lackluster attempt we're getting now. So for example, if I think we are donating furniture, I could donate 5 of the same chair in a row? That is, if the system of donating remains the same as before. That was sort of my plan, to buy multiples of the same item. Looks like it doesn't matter for this event, they said every item will give you points!  |
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Post by Zoey on Mar 12, 2018 12:50:02 GMT -5
I guess this model could work too! I'm curious as to if the prize shop will have like, capsules that give you items of a certain rarity, or if they're going to put nice existing items there or create entirely new ones (stamps and whatnot). But the points thing solves the issue of R90 items inflating heavily, since now everything counts. Time to empty out he SDB!
(Can't wait for the protests to start, though--I'm sure plenty of users will be mad at this change simply because it's a change.)
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Post by Moni on Mar 12, 2018 12:52:16 GMT -5
*eats popcorn*
The Neopets userbase is calm, not hyperbolic, and completely rational.
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Post by smudgeoffudge on Mar 12, 2018 12:55:23 GMT -5
I just saw the boards and people are going nuts saying that a level 90 item might not give you any more points or something. They think that just any old thing is going to work. The final prize shop might not be that good, even if you wrack up thousand of points. If they did put something in there like a new paintbrush, this would only cheapen the new paintbrush. So what do you guys think? I plan to play along and I wasn't really worried too much about my investment. I'll probably earn some of my money back anyway. I do hope that the higher rarities earn more points. I wonder if there is going to be a cap on how many points you can earn. For example, how many times are you going to be able to cash in on the "big" prize.
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Post by Jae on Mar 12, 2018 13:28:36 GMT -5
I guess this model could work too! I'm curious as to if the prize shop will have like, capsules that give you items of a certain rarity, or if they're going to put nice existing items there or create entirely new ones (stamps and whatnot). But the points thing solves the issue of R90 items inflating heavily, since now everything counts. Time to empty out he SDB! (Can't wait for the protests to start, though--I'm sure plenty of users will be mad at this change simply because it's a change.) Oh you don't have to wait, they've been protesting since earlier this morning. x) Personally I'm excited for the changes. The wording with regard to 'Granny has spoken to some influential people' in particular has me pretty pumped. Makes me think the prize shop won't just be generic CC-themed junk. Plus I was always less worried about r90+ junk inflating and more worried about r90+ items that used to be valuable deflating. Now if only the thing would start lol |
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Post by smudgeoffudge on Mar 12, 2018 13:38:44 GMT -5
Something special that she has arranged for you by pulling some strings and getting in touch with some very influential people. At the end of the event, go over to the prize shop to redeem your points for these boons. Psst, don’t go telling you heard it from us!
Influential people and boons sounds like maybe battledome boons. Do you think there would be unique boons for the battledome? Maybe special wraiths to fight in the plot or special moves? Would they reuse the same boons from the Oblesk?
I think they should have something unique if they are going for a battledome boon. Also, battledome is just sort of boring and people are constantly asking for an overhall of it. So having boons for it at this point isn't very interesting to me.
Boons also could be experience boons. Double XP training, reading, eating gourmet foods, fishing. It could be twice as many random events. I guess anything that you could boon in some way, they could boon.
I would really like physical items other than boons though. So hopefully we get some unique wearbles, books, stamps, food and stuff.
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Post by Jae on Mar 12, 2018 13:48:37 GMT -5
Boons don't necessarily refer to the Battledome. Most of the Obelisk boons are used elsewhere on the site. Even then, I wouldn't read that much into it. One of the many things this staff team is consistently derided for is their poor word choice.
That said, I still think this is more interesting than other events where the prizes are mounds of trash with one worthy item here and there (hey that could also describe how the CC used to work xD)
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Mar 12, 2018 13:58:15 GMT -5
I guess this model could work too! I'm curious as to if the prize shop will have like, capsules that give you items of a certain rarity, or if they're going to put nice existing items there or create entirely new ones (stamps and whatnot). But the points thing solves the issue of R90 items inflating heavily, since now everything counts. Time to empty out he SDB! (Can't wait for the protests to start, though--I'm sure plenty of users will be mad at this change simply because it's a change.) I would like to see a little bit of both. Not too many new unique items, but some would be nice (Granny Hopbobbin doesn't have a Plushie yet!). That said and as I have said many times before, I think also having capsule machines of certain categories worth a certain amount of points would also be a good idea. Though if they are doing that I would have capsule machines available now. They can keep the prize shop for later and have it be a reward for the patient (they'd also still have the capsule machines), but for those who don't care and only want to try and win rare items they'd have the option to spend their points now. Thinking about it, would be a fun social experiment to try. *eats popcorn* The Neopets userbase is calm, not hyperbolic, and completely rational.   I just saw the boards and people are going nuts saying that a level 90 item might not give you any more points or something. They think that just any old thing is going to work. The final prize shop might not be that good, even if you wrack up thousand of points. If they did put something in there like a new paintbrush, this would only cheapen the new paintbrush. So what do you guys think? I plan to play along and I wasn't really worried too much about my investment. I'll probably earn some of my money back anyway. I do hope that the higher rarities earn more points. I wonder if there is going to be a cap on how many points you can earn. For example, how many times are you going to be able to cash in on the "big" prize. *Sigh* Let's take these comments one by one. Note, I know you're not saying this, just my mind wants to address these points because they're so reactionary with no thought put into them: Level 90 item might not give you any more points: FAQ says rarity does determine points. Just any old thing is going to work: And the problem with that? Final prize shop might not be that good: Or could be good, we don't know. You could say this for any event or plot, honestly. If you're worried just casually donate. Putting in something good, like a Paint Brush, would cheapen that item: Like all the other times the put PBs in Prize Shops? Like you, I'm just gonna participate as much as I planned do (maybe a bit more, we'll see), and see where this goes. Players who are saying they're gonna QUIT just because of this just makes me want to slap them until the stupid falls out. Personally I'm excited for the changes. The wording with regard to 'Granny has spoken to some influential people' in particular has me pretty pumped. Makes me think the prize shop won't just be generic CC-themed junk. Plus I was always less worried about r90+ junk inflating and more worried about r90+ items that used to be valuable deflating. The thing is, I sorta get where some complaints are coming from. Getting points is not as exciting as getting items, an immediate reward instead of waiting for one you don't quite know will match up to the original way. If they don't have the capsule machine idea, at the very least I think what they could have also done was randomly have a Neopian citizen, seeking your kindness, give you an item in thanks for helping them out. They could have them be the Shopkeepers and notable characters like the Soup Faerie, Money Tree, Defenders of Neopia, and maybe others (though I'd keep them Neopia Central based or traveling characters, like maybe have Brynn and Hanso appear). That way there's some immediate reward to hold you over until the prize shop. |
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