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Post by Jae on Oct 7, 2017 9:52:58 GMT -5
Another update... for some of us, anyway. Some people can see it, and others are still seeing the old one because of cache issues. Is there a solution yet? Normally when I hear cache issues, I refresh the page, but that didn't work. I'd really rather not miss out on potential prizes for doing everything because of something on their end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 15:08:49 GMT -5
I like that they had a barrier spell up after what happened last time they threw a festival.
Shame that nobody ever lets the faeries have a good time.
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Post by Ziporen on Oct 7, 2017 16:54:16 GMT -5
Another update... for some of us, anyway. Some people can see it, and others are still seeing the old one because of cache issues. Is there a solution yet? Normally when I hear cache issues, I refresh the page, but that didn't work. I'd really rather not miss out on potential prizes for doing everything because of something on their end. I think people were saying that switching to a different browser and/or logging in on Incognito was helping.
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Post by Jae on Oct 7, 2017 18:59:44 GMT -5
I think people were saying that switching to a different browser and/or logging in on Incognito was helping. Tried both. I logged into my main in Chrome, checked the page and saw nothing. When I logged back into my side account, however, my side was able to see the new dialogue just fine. The only thing I can think is I checked yesterday late in the evening, and there was dialogue but I thought it was the video stuff so I just clicked through it to clear the page for the next update without reading. Maybe this dialogue was put up late yesterday and no one noticed because they all checked in the morning, and I skipped through it? That's the only thing I've got because if it was a cache issue, you would think loading the page in a browser which had never viewed the Faerie Festival would fix the issue, but it didn't for me. THIS IS WHY WE DO COMICS, SO PEOPLE CAN GO BACK AND SEE THINGS THEY MAY HAVE MISSED.
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Post by Ziporen on Oct 7, 2017 22:03:34 GMT -5
Finally back home and able to try those proposed fixes... no luck here.
I'm less worried about missing reading/seeing things and more worried about how it could impact participation counts. I don't want to miss out on something because a glitch on staff's end. (Which is what this seems to be, if it has anything to do with the last dialogue seemingly resetting to show for three days in a row.)
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Post by Jae on Oct 10, 2017 9:25:37 GMT -5
Yet another update, and apparently it's another one that only a few people can see. Here's a synopsis for anyone who didn't get to read it: Fyora: I don't know if you noticed, but the plants in the land have begun to droop ever so slightly. It isn't much, but it is unmistakable. Something is draining the life force around us, and it looks very much like the darkness we have always associated with the wraith.
Aethia: But what about our barrier spell, Fyora?!
Fyora: I did a quick check before I came here - there were no obvious violations. But now that the Yurble has confirmed my fears, I'm going to take a closer look at it and see if there's something I missed.
Taelia: What do we do now, Queen Fyora?
Fyora: We must first find out where the wraith are spawning from and fight them before they can cause any more destruction. We must then work to repel the life-sucking forces they bring with them. We can then work together to find out how they were able to overcome the barrier spell, and what we must do to prevent this from happening again.
Aethia: I can't wait to get started! So it seems fairly obvious at this point that the writers do intend for 'the wraith' to be the plural instead of wraiths. No major hints as far as characters go, and it basically only confirms our suspicions that there will be battles coming up soon(-ish).
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Post by patriciagwen on Oct 13, 2017 9:11:09 GMT -5
New dialogue! I love this!! Taelia: But how do we find out where the wraith are going to attack next? We are powerful as faeries, but we have our limitations too.
Fyora: We have someone in our midst us who can help us. Kaia? Would you please step forward?
Kaia: Y... Yes, my queen...
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Post by Tiger on Oct 13, 2017 9:46:12 GMT -5
patriciagwen , I can't check Neo right now to see if that's the actual on-site dialogue, but in case it was, I put it in a spoiler box. In the future, it'd be great if you could put things like that in a spoiler box so people who want to see it on the site first can do so =) In case you haven't seen how it's done: just wrap the text with spoiler tags, like so: [spoiler]Text you want in a spoiler box here woah[/spoiler]
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Oct 16, 2017 13:47:50 GMT -5
New dialogue today and it's a little bit of backstory for Kaia. Kaia is what is known as a seer, with the ability to foresee future events
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Oct 16, 2017 15:22:26 GMT -5
Okay, let's break this down today's update: LIBRARY FIRE: Considering one of the Faerie elements is FIRE I wouldn't think this be a surprise. Scratch that, actually would, since it is an element wouldn't there be spells to prevent an unwanted fire happening? Especially in a library?
TREMBLING VISIONS: Oh yeah, I remember that scene from Harry Potter. Harry ges a vision of Ron's dad being attacked by Voldemort's snake, brought trembling to Dumbledore who figures out what's happening. Was a real gripping and tense scene.
SAVED LIVES: Really? Was a fire really that dangerous to the Faeries? I remind you, two of the elements is FIRE AND WATER. Heck, Earth and Air could also put the fire out easily. Light and Dark too. The only "threat" was it destroying books containing ancient knowledge, but that's it.
THE SIGHT: Aren't Light Faeries suppose to be clairvoyant, which is why they ask for cards, to use as tarot cards? And gee, what a unique power... Now, time for a rant: This is weak storytelling. As everyone said, Kaia is coming out to be a Faerie Sue. Now, maybe this will change once she sets out to do stuff, but for right now we have a by-the-number chosen one narrative. They really couldn't think of anything more original than clairvoyance? A power we've not only scene on Neopets before, but used as a major story element (and better handled) in previous plots. Like, does her being from Shenkuu have anything to do with this? You gave her such a unique design and different origin than other Faeries, is there a reason for that? Other than you didn't do your homework. *SIGH*
Hire me. Just hire me! I'll write you more interesting plots, ones that actually follows the plots lore and puts intentional new twists to it. Though I'll need a small budget. Oh, not for writing the story, to commision ACTUAL ARTISTS. You know, to draw the comics and additional new images. Even better if we could get someo of the original TNT artists, hey, maybe even get some of the orginal content team. You know, the people you laid off who made Neopets what it was because your a businesses do, right? They acquire new properties and lay off staff without bothering to think how that would affect things. BET YOU'RE REGRETTING THAT NOW! Sorry, this weak reveal just really frustrated me. I'm gonna let JS finish their plot, but my enthusiasm is now really low for it.
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Post by Kaljinyu on Oct 16, 2017 20:07:31 GMT -5
About the library fire. I dunno, because what does that mean, should fires never be possible in Faerieland? Because Fire Faeries are a thing that exists? When you think about it, everything is an element. So because there are Faeries, should Faerieland be magically impervious to all fire and natural disaster? Because that's not the feel I got from Faerieland.
As for loss of life, there are Neopets that live in Faerieland. And use its library. So those are the ones who were probably gonna die. But even if there were only Faeries present, should it be impossible to kill a Faerie with enough force? If a Faerie can be bottled, why can't a Faerie be burnt? Granted, Eithne has survived some crazy things, apparently. But does this necessarily mean it's impossible to burn a Faerie to death?
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Post by June Scarlet on Oct 16, 2017 20:16:42 GMT -5
But does this necessarily mean it's impossible to burn a Faerie to death? As a Phoenix rises from the flames.
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Post by Jae on Oct 16, 2017 20:42:36 GMT -5
About the library fire. I dunno, because what does that mean, should fires never be possible in Faerieland? Because Fire Faeries are a thing that exists? When you think about it, everything is an element. So because there are Faeries, should Faerieland be magically impervious to all fire and natural disaster? Because that's not the feel I got from Faerieland. As for loss of life, there are Neopets that live in Faerieland. And use its library. So those are the ones who were probably gonna die. But even if there were only Faeries present, should it be impossible to kill a Faerie with enough force? If a Faerie can be bottled, why can't a Faerie be burnt? Granted, Eithne has survived some crazy things, apparently. But does this necessarily mean it's impossible to burn a Faerie to death? I agree with this. If anything, fire being a known faerie element makes it more likely for random fires to occur. Isn't there flavor text somewhere - maybe for fire faerie quests, but I can't exactly remember - that implies that fire faeries are prone to starting unintentional fires when they get emotional? I do also agree with Duke Pikachu 's point that Kaia's character is kinda taking a turn for the worse here. I'm definitely getting mary-sue/self-insert vibes. :/
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Oct 16, 2017 21:26:52 GMT -5
About the library fire. I dunno, because what does that mean, should fires never be possible in Faerieland? Because Fire Faeries are a thing that exists? When you think about it, everything is an element. So because there are Faeries, should Faerieland be magically impervious to all fire and natural disaster? Because that's not the feel I got from Faerieland. As for loss of life, there are Neopets that live in Faerieland. And use its library. So those are the ones who were probably gonna die. But even if there were only Faeries present, should it be impossible to kill a Faerie with enough force? If a Faerie can be bottled, why can't a Faerie be burnt? Granted, Eithne has survived some crazy things, apparently. But does this necessarily mean it's impossible to burn a Faerie to death? I agree with this. If anything, fire being a known faerie element makes it more likely for random fires to occur. Isn't there flavor text somewhere - maybe for fire faerie quests, but I can't exactly remember - that implies that fire faeries are prone to starting unintentional fires when they get emotional? I do also agree with Duke Pikachu 's point that Kaia's character is kinda taking a turn for the worse here. I'm definitely getting mary-sue/self-insert vibes. :/ From the Faerie Quest page, before it got changed to being damaged/destroyed in the fall of Faerieland, I believe that at one point, Fire Faeries were requesting clothing because they were constantly burning them up, so it's not unprecedented. And to answer Duke Pikachu, from the same page, Light Faeries are seers. As more of this plot unfolds, I'm starting to think JSN botched this attempt despite the planning behind it. For certain, if Kaia had played 'Wing It' (as she claims to have) with her abilities (even when blindfolded, again, as she had claimed), it would definitely cheapen the game itself and she would have been branded as a cheater. The evidence is starting to come in, and it's definitely not looking good.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Oct 17, 2017 1:16:36 GMT -5
About the library fire. I dunno, because what does that mean, should fires never be possible in Faerieland? Because Fire Faeries are a thing that exists? When you think about it, everything is an element. So because there are Faeries, should Faerieland be magically impervious to all fire and natural disaster? Because that's not the feel I got from Faerieland. As for loss of life, there are Neopets that live in Faerieland. And use its library. So those are the ones who were probably gonna die. But even if there were only Faeries present, should it be impossible to kill a Faerie with enough force? If a Faerie can be bottled, why can't a Faerie be burnt? Granted, Eithne has survived some crazy things, apparently. But does this necessarily mean it's impossible to burn a Faerie to death? I probably didn't accurately explain why the fire thing bothered me. In addition of it being used to showcase Kaia's clairvoyance, it just kind of feels like a mundane thing. Could it have been a magical fire? Well, sure, but that's not what I got from reading what Fyora said. It sounded like it was an ordinary fire they were easily able to put out once made aware of it... and then they updated Kaia's Neopedia article to confirm that apparently it was started from a candle. So it just seemed like it was an ordinary fire, which, yes, I do think Faeries would put up a spell to prevent, especially in a library filled with flammable books, scrolls, papers, etc.. And with ALL the Faeries that are around, it wasn't until Fyora showed up that they were able to put it out? Okay, maybe the Neopets in the library couldn't do anything and were in danger, but were there only Neopets there and no Faeries were nearby? Finally,it's also an issue of "tell don't show". Yes, later they added that bit into the Neopedia article, but even than it feels disappointing when you know what actually happened since it's not anything special. It took Xandra using a powerful spell plus an ancient artifact that amplifies magic for her to petrify the Faerie. While you can certainly hurt a Faerie, I think it takes quite a bit of power to do so. How about I put it this way: do you think you can hurt a Wizard? A Jedi? A (pick a powerful group of Shonen characters here)? If no, than why are you suddenly considering Faeries as lesser when they're shown to be one of if not the most powerful species on Neopia? A simple fire is not going to hurt a Faerie, or at least Faeries who are living perfectly fine in Faerieland. Now, maybe JS are going to surprise us all that the fire was done intentionally by a powerful being who's now commanding the Wraiths (though they'd need to have a reason to do so). But that, and many other issues they'd have to address, remains to be seen with no indication there's something at work in the background.
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