Tabloid Town Meeting - Time for a Change?

[Nimras]

dan4848 said:

Seems to me that all we'd need to do is have the mods crack down and the members being more careful. *shrug* It just doesn't seem to call for anything more drastic.

The problem is, right now I don't think anyone can agree exactly where the line is to crack down to. *debates*

I'm the first one to admit that I'm not a 'Bloider. I think I've been in the Bloids... three times? Maybe four? That's the main reason my post count is so low for how long and active I am.

And despite how much you see us, there really aren't all that many mods considering the size of this forum. We can't be guarding the Bloids 24/7. Think of it as like a student run program; the mods are here for the big things, but everyone should be responsible enough to take care of themselves as well.

[Ikkin]

zylaa said:

... I wouldn't want my 10 year old sister to read about all these scandals, even though they're all in good fun. I mean, we have a warning on this part of the site. Are we going to do away with that warning, or what?

Yeah, I can definitely understand that. I wouldn't necessarily want my 12 year old sister on here, either (despite the fact that she's probably seen and heard worse on TV/movies/commercials/school/etc.).

"What's okay for a ten-year-old" seems to be a pretty vague standard, anyway... and "what you would want your parent to see" and "what your parent wouldn't mind you seeing" probably differ, anyway. It's kind of like the NT's rules - "nothing unfit for a six-year-old" is pretty meaningless when some parents wouldn't let their six-year-old see a PG movie, and others would let them watch PG-13 movies (my cousin watched Spiderman when he was six, for instance); "nothing unfit for a ten-year-old" is equally meaningless when some parents let their ten-year-olds watch R-rated films, and others have to watch PG movies before their kids can see it.

I'm not saying that standards aren't good things; I'm just saying that those kind of standards are really ambiguous and mean different things to different people, and that something more objective might be useful; though the objectiveness would have to be balanced out so we wouldn't lose the feel of the Bloids.

[Rider]

[glow=red,2,300]OK, since no one else seems to be suggesting standards:

Making out/Snogging = OK as long as it's not constant.
Ultimate Verb = No. Not only is it too risque, it makes eyes water.
Closeting = No.
General dirty jokes = OK so long as they're not flamboyantly out there.
Organ jokes = No.
Graphic, bloody violence = No.

Any objections/additions/inquiries?

EDIT: QMs count as jokes. organ QMing = no. Constant QMing = no.

P.S. Don't think I haven't been lurking.[/glow]

[Ikkin]

ridergirl333 said:

[glow=red,2,300]OK, since no one else seems to be suggesting standards:

Making out/Snogging = OK as long as it's not constant.
Ultimate Verb = No. Not only is it too risque, it makes eyes water.
Closeting = No.
General dirty jokes = OK so long as they're not flamboyantly out there.
Organ jokes = No.
Graphic, bloody violence = No.

Any objections/additions/inquiries?

EDIT: QMs count as jokes. organ QMing = no. Constant QMing = no.

P.S. Don't think I haven't been lurking.[/glow]

Sounds pretty good. Except that the "General dirty jokes" should be limited to PG-13 at the max, and not expected to be that bad.

...and does "organ jokes" mean jokes about... you know... or all organs? Could you still despleen someone, for instance?

[Deleted]

I also think we need to set a limit on what avatars show, I remember Rider had an av that could corrupt even the most innocent 5 year old with its cleavage e_e

[Stal]

yugiohjorge32 said:

I also think we need to set a limit on what avatars show, I remember Rider had an av that could corrupt even the most innocent 5 year old with its cleavage e_e

That should be on a case-by-case basis and not strict guidelines beyond what's just generally acceptable on the forum. Given the standard for anime/video game characters today, you just described several characters.

[Huntress]

*eyes guidelines* Hrm, am I still allowed to sell radioactive bras or do I need to change those to sleeveless tops? (Frankly, seeing the stuff chicks wear these days, there wouldn't be a single difference x.x;)

Question is, how are the new rules going to reach all 'bloiders? Not everyone comes to Tabloid Town to enter the 'bloids, not everyone has read this thread and old habits die hard. Does this call for a general announcement or are we going to rely on word of mouth here?

[Dan]

nimras23 said:

dan4848 said:

Seems to me that all we'd need to do is have the mods crack down and the members being more careful. *shrug* It just doesn't seem to call for anything more drastic.

The problem is, right now I don't think anyone can agree exactly where the line is to crack down to. *debates*

I'm the first one to admit that I'm not a 'Bloider. I think I've been in the Bloids... three times? Maybe four? That's the main reason my post count is so low for how long and active I am.

And despite how much you see us, there really aren't all that many mods considering the size of this forum. We can't be guarding the Bloids 24/7. Think of it as like a student run program; the mods are here for the big things, but everyone should be responsible enough to take care of themselves as well.

Not that it's my decision to make, but if there aren't that many mods, perhaps a few more would help? There are plenty of people here who I see as responsible enough to moderate the Bloids discussions among other things. Yes, I understand we should watch ourselves more, but isn't a mod's job to watch the regular members?

EDIT:

ssjelitegirl said:

Question is, how are the new rules going to reach all 'bloiders? Not everyone comes to Tabloid Town to enter the 'bloids, not everyone has read this thread and old habits die hard. Does this call for a general announcement or are we going to rely on word of mouth here?

Another reason as well for my case. ^_^

[Stal]

Nope. The mod's job is to help make sure the forum runs smoothly, but a good mod is a mod that rarely has to use its powers. So it does come down to personal responsibility more than anything, instead of a heavy mod police force (no one really wants that)...

Plus a couple more mods wouldn't make TOO much difference in watching people.

But...

...that's all I can say right now. XDD

[Enn]

Have there been any actual complaints or is this all precautionary?

And are other places going to get censorship? We have warnings here at least, some of the stuff in Pen's Point is getting even worse than what we have here and it has no warnings.

[Rider]

newnick said:

Have there been any actual complaints or is this all precautionary?

And are other places going to get censorship? We have warnings here at least, some of the stuff in Pen's Point is getting even worse than what we have here and it has no warnings.

[glow=red,2,300]It does. or it's supposed to, and violators will be kicked on sight. ^_^

The thing is; on Pen's Point, you can warn people in the title of the thread. The 'bloids are one big thread (and even if we were to split them up as previously suggested, I don't believe the improper things wouls stay in their proper place,) and there have been worries, spread out over a long period of time.

Ikkin - No, not all organs. Just the reproductive ones.

Please, would I be able to live if I couldn't despleen?

EDIT: Hunty's right, perhaps we ought to make an announcement. And as for radioactive undergarments, I don't see why not. ^_^ [/glow]

[Ikkin]

ridergirl333 said:

Ikkin - No, not all organs. Just the reproductive ones.

Please, would I be able to live if I couldn't despleen?

I figured; just wanted to make sure, considering the fact that part of the newly-written-down rules was about violence. ^_^;

Though I suppose the castration thing is right out now, right? >.>

EDIT: Hunty's right, perhaps we ought to make an announcement. And as for radioactive undergarments, I don't see why not. ^_^

Yeah, an announcement would be good. So, what's going in it, your rules, Stal's rules, a combination of the two...?

[Huntress]

*raises another question* As for violence... how much is violence? All the 'bloidal violence is good fun - atleast I hope it is >> - but if things like despleening and castrating and all the other things aren't bloody violence, I don't know what is. And people get eaten and burned and all that junk... it wouldn't really make sense to go nitpicky over all these things that aren't really meant seriously, eh?

Then again, the whole Tabloid Town isn't meant to be serious but we're still having this argument. Or would this question boil down to "use your common sense" again?

As for the announcement, I'd say combination of the two, but I can't see how that announcement could be made. I sometimes jump to the 'bloids straight from the mainpage and skip all the other threads before it. Then again, once it's out somewhere, word of mouth should do the trick.

[Stal]

Hunty, think of it this way: saying *despleen* is simply.

Describing how you do despleen someone...

...That's why we say graphic depictions of violence. It's the difference between a bugs bunny cartoon and Hellsing...

[Ikkin]

ssjelitegirl said:

*raises another question* As for violence... how much is violence? All the 'bloidal violence is good fun - atleast I hope it is >> - but if things like despleening and castrating and all the other things aren't bloody violence, I don't know what is. And people get eaten and burned and all that junk... it wouldn't really make sense to go nitpicky over all these things that aren't really meant seriously, eh?

Then again, the whole Tabloid Town isn't meant to be serious but we're still having this argument. Or would this question boil down to "use your common sense" again?

As for the announcement, I'd say combination of the two, but I can't see how that announcement could be made. I sometimes jump to the 'bloids straight from the mainpage and skip all the other threads before it. Then again, once it's out somewhere, word of mouth should do the trick.

I think it's a question of graphicness, not severity. "Sev incinerates you" is probably more severe than "Sev breathes fire on you, and watches amused as your skin shrivels up and burns, leaving a distinctive scar to remember him by," but the first would be more acceptable than the second. It'd be the same thing with despleening - if it's just a verb, it's not very graphic, so it's not going to be as much of a problem.

...which is probably the same thing as "use your common sense," come to think of it.

Announcements show up on all the boards - and while a lot of people might view the Bloids from the main page, they tend to view other boards, too.


EDIT: Stal got it first. T_T Though I disagree about the Bugs Bunny comparison. Invader Zim is a better comparison, because of the part about stealing peoples' organs.