Tabloid Town Meeting - Time for a Change?

[Zylaa]

I think what I first got out of the persona thread would work- sticky it, then whenever people decide to change, post on the stickied thread.

And personally, I love the unrestrained inconsequential polygamy. It's all good fun. Er, Stal summed up my opinions nicely.

And Hu, Crystal probably would castrate Stal if he dressed up in pink, but she'd castrate Stal anyway... unless of course she wants to change her persona to be the one dressing up in pink.

[Huntress]

First off, I'm not against the persona thread idea - after all, it'd help me a lot, I seriously don't know who all my spouses are by now >> - I just like to gnaw on little flaws and point them out so that the idea would get more solid ground to stand on before it's brought to life. Anyway, seems to me that the thread would have two ways to work out. One: like the Off Topic thread, people update their one single post whenever necessary. Two: new posts whenever things change.

Question is: who's to keep an eye on all this? The scond variant would mean some ten-twenty pages of little pieces of info, and the first posts would most likely outdate fast... nrah, the first variant would be better, IMO. But that'd still mean the need to scan all posts in search of the newest info... I'm taking this too seriously, no? Moving on...

Any comments/feelings/otherwise ideas about newbies? They pop in, get married/adopted/both, and a number of them doesn't stick around. So they remain tangling in the family tree, and kicking them out of it doesn't feel right because they may still return, but they're like dead branches. And as most of the 'bloiders aren't polygamic, I can see why people would be unable to marry someone else 'cause they're literally married to a corpse. (Hey, would that actually count as the "till death do you part" rule? o.o)

Frankly, I don't have a problem with that myself but once we're already having this meeting, thought that I might as well point this out.

[Ikkin]

ssjelitegirl said:

First off, I'm not against the persona thread idea - after all, it'd help me a lot, I seriously don't know who all my spouses are by now >> - I just like to gnaw on little flaws and point them out so that the idea would get more solid ground to stand on before it's brought to life. Anyway, seems to me that the thread would have two ways to work out. One: like the Off Topic thread, people update their one single post whenever necessary. Two: new posts whenever things change.

Question is: who's to keep an eye on all this? The scond variant would mean some ten-twenty pages of little pieces of info, and the first posts would most likely outdate fast... nrah, the first variant would be better, IMO. But that'd still mean the need to scan all posts in search of the newest info... I'm taking this too seriously, no? Moving on...

I've got an idea for a method that would combine the strengths of both of those variants, but it would be a lot of work for someone. I suppose I could take care of it if I made the thread, though.

Basically, we'd use the second variant method with two modifications. First off, the person's whole profile should be in each post they make on the thread (it wouldn't be that much more work, considering C+P and the thread search function). That would allow the thread's creator to keep a list of all the Bloiders whose names were stored there in the first post of the thread with links to their most recent post, so you wouldn't have to go looking through 20 pages to find somebody's current persona status.

It would be more work, but it would probably be more useful than either of the other methods.

Any comments/feelings/otherwise ideas about newbies? They pop in, get married/adopted/both, and a number of them doesn't stick around. So they remain tangling in the family tree, and kicking them out of it doesn't feel right because they may still return, but they're like dead branches. And as most of the 'bloiders aren't polygamic, I can see why people would be unable to marry someone else 'cause they're literally married to a corpse. (Hey, would that actually count as the "till death do you part" rule? o.o)

Frankly, I don't have a problem with that myself but once we're already having this meeting, thought that I might as well point this out.

Not sure what to do about the disappearing newbies, except divorcing them. ^_^; It's not like there isn't a real-life counterpart to that - I heard that the divorce rates were really high in places where there were a lot of sea-faring merchants, because the womens' husbands would disappear at sea. And sometimes, they were really still alive. So, yeah.

[Enn]

I'm not gonna read through every comment but the first few concerning personas- when you have one as famous for being closet-crazed as mine it can be very hard to kick that image. Not that I try anymore x-D;; But I mean it'd take Xiv a hell of a turnaround to kick her sadistic image, or Rider her hussy one. :-3

[KitClairvoyance]

newnick said:

I'm not gonna read through every comment but the first few concerning personas- when you have one as famous for being closet-crazed as mine it can be very hard to kick that image. Not that I try anymore x-D;; But I mean it'd take Xiv a hell of a turnaround to kick her sadistic image, or Rider her hussy one. :-3

Agreed. I can't seem to shake my flirtratious image either. 'sides, it's entertaining to have a flirt around. <<

That aside, a suggestion. I've made the same suggestion on the roleplay board and figured it might work here.

Instead of having just one thread for everyone, why not make one sub-board for personas and let everyone have one thread in it where they post their persona information and any changes that might concern their persona? It saves the trouble of sifting through one giant thread.

[Torey]

This is why I never get involved with this kind of stuff. Waaaaay too confusing XD

[Ikkin]

kitclairvoyance said:

newnick said:

I'm not gonna read through every comment but the first few concerning personas- when you have one as famous for being closet-crazed as mine it can be very hard to kick that image. Not that I try anymore x-D;; But I mean it'd take Xiv a hell of a turnaround to kick her sadistic image, or Rider her hussy one. :-3

Agreed. I can't seem to shake my flirtratious image either. 'sides, it's entertaining to have a flirt around. <<

That aside, a suggestion. I've made the same suggestion on the roleplay board and figured it might work here.

Instead of having just one thread for everyone, why not make one sub-board for personas and let everyone have one thread in it where they post their persona information and any changes that might concern their persona? It saves the trouble of sifting through one giant thread.

Now that's an idea. ^_^

[Kat]

[shadow=purple,left,300]This is why tabloid resets exist. And why I get married to a different guy every time XDDDDD But let's not make them TOO regular, or else people will start expecting and it won't be fun anymore. It'll be like, 'Hey, the reset's coming up soon. Who're you gonna get married to this time?'

No excitement in that, right?

The persona board is a good idea. ^_^ Ever since I whipped out a Harry Potter-type wand on one of the really, really, REALLY old 'bloids, my mage persona has stuck with me ever since and I just can't see myself ditching it. I guess I make a few tweaks every now and then, like adding a bit of swordsmanship, but yeah. ^^;[/shadow]

[Frozen]

[glow=teal,2,300]Since the persona board is already up and running, I've just one thing to say about it: It will need some prodding every once in a while. What I've noticed about the persona thread in both the Splatterboard and Off-topic is that after everyone posted in it, it gets forgotten and hardly anyone updates their original post.

As for the current state of Tabloids, I'm quite content with it. It's just a game that compliments the chatting that happens here. If you don't want to get tied up in polygamy and incest, then don't. And responsible moderators like you guys make sure we don't go out of line with what happens here.

[/glow]

[Kat]

isowannabefamous said:

[glow=teal,2,300]And responsible moderators like you guys make sure we don't go out of line with what happens here.
[/glow]

[shadow=purple,left,300]Has a certain discussion about "marbles" gotten out of line? I have this feeling it has. (Note: Check the last few pages of tabloid 135) I think we've toed the line many times and never realized it.

Who knows, we might actually have some homophobes or heterophobes (people afraid of homosexuality and heterosexuality, respectively) around, or people who twitch at the mere thought of incest or polygamy.

In fact, many of us have already forgotten what the line is for.[/shadow]

[Huntress]

The thing with incest is, you can't really control it. Same with polygamy. Heck, I'm strongly monogamous myself, but due to the fact that Thundy proposed to me seven minutes after my first post on the 'bloids, well, yeah, the rest is history x333 Can't blame the little newbie for not knowing what she's getting herself into. The only thing that'd help to control that is a big, strongly controlled and regularly updated family tree somewhere around here, but we've had this discussion already and strong family tree control definitely isn't what the 'bloids are about. So yeah.

As for the line, true. Half of the 'bloidal life consists of poking that line with various pointy objects while giggling maniacally. And it's kinda hard to tell when this line's been officially crossed, because people are different and what can disturb one won't make the other even blink. But so far so good, no? Had there been some serious violations, then something would've been done about it one way or another.

[Deleted]

The whole incest/polgamy thing is kind of iffy, but how can you not end up marrying your father ^^ All the eligble bachelors are taken by Rider five minutes prior to their first bloid post.(just kidding rider!)

I've never been here for a reset, so I don't know how those work.

A persona thread sounds cool.

[Ikkin]

amateurwriter said:

isowannabefamous said:

[glow=teal,2,300]And responsible moderators like you guys make sure we don't go out of line with what happens here.
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[shadow=purple,left,300]Has a certain discussion about "marbles" gotten out of line? I have this feeling it has. (Note: Check the last few pages of tabloid 135) I think we've toed the line many times and never realized it.

Who knows, we might actually have some homophobes or heterophobes (people afraid of homosexuality and heterosexuality, respectively) around, or people who twitch at the mere thought of incest or polygamy.

In fact, many of us have already forgotten what the line is for.[/shadow]

I'm not sure about crossing it, but it was dancing on it, at least.

The thing about the line, though, is that you can't please everyone. If there was one homophobe and one heterophobe on the Bloids, would we have to give up on relationships altogether (or, perhaps, all marry Kit or Stal )? I don't think that would be necessary. And the whole incest/polygamy thing is pretty much unavoidable, at this point.

The point of the Bloids (and therefore for their rules) is for us all to have fun. If you're too strict about the line, everyone's fun will be diminished; if you're too lenient, there will be people who won't be able to enjoy it anymore or may even leave (which would diminish other people's enjoyment as well). Which is why I think the PG-13 line makes sense (though it's kind of an ambiguous line).

I think the relevant question here actually is 'where exactly is the line drawn' rather than 'why do we have the line...,' though the reason for the line does inform the question of where the line should be drawn.

[Huntress]

fenrix said:

The whole incest/polgamy thing is kind of iffy, but how can you not end up marrying your father ^^ All the eligble bachelors are taken by Rider five minutes prior to their first bloid post.(just kidding rider!)

I've never been here for a reset, so I don't know how those work.

A persona thread sounds cool.

Rider isn't a polygamist, from what I know, so all you'd have to do is snatch the nearest guy she just dumped. (Or seduce Fraze, who's still a convinced bachelor, though I can predict that you won't succeed in that x3)

As for resets, they just make the family tree go boom. No more relations. A blank sheet. We all need to start over. The last reset was shortly before I joined, somewhere in July. But as most people end up marrying their previous spouse anyway, the current situation is almost the same.

[Frozen]

[glow=teal,2,300]I remember a thread explaining about the boundaries of the bloids last year or earlier. Let me dig it up.[/glow]

stalos said:

Okay, perhaps it's time a refresher was posted on what conduct goes on in the 'bloids and what doesn't.

It's gotten out of hand as of late, people. I'm guilty of it, too. We all are. But seriously, it's just to the point where I'm suggesting it shape up or we get rid of them.

The tabloids used to involve just the relationships and "scandalous" things (I use the term loosely) happening. The worst that ever happened was people would go into the closets or bushes together. We avoided a whole thing of even going *snogs so-and-so* because that began to get too close to other areas that we shouldn't go into.

Now that's about as common as every other post it seems and some people like to take it much too further. It makes that show "Desperate Housewives" pretty tame, really.

So just follow some guidelines.

1. Used implied statements for anything worse than snogging. Things that could be taken many ways. For example, closeting people is fine. Because you could be having a tea party in the closet for all you know. Some of the slang we've picked up on (such as "kill") may be fine as well, because it's just a double entrende sort of thing...an innuendo. It doesn't have to mean any particular thing.

This doesn't mean that you can imply anything you want and get away with it. I could imply a whole lot of stuff and it wouldn't be fit for posting at all, ever. So use your best judgement. Don't get raunchy. Remember to stay pretty vague, because even implying things you can get pretty specific and we're not looking to do that here.

And don't get graphic with your descriptions. *snog so-and-so* is simple. We don't need to have all sorts of adverbs, adjectives and nouns coming from every which way to describe an action. I'm not saying EVERY action should be condensed down to its simplest forms...simply that certain TABLOID actions should be. There comes a point where even a post about a simply closed-mouth kiss would be too graphic, ya know?

2. If you question whether what you're posting should be posted at all, maybe you should rephrase it or maybe not post it to begin with.

3. Think before you do post. Ask yourself, "does this fit with the themes and guidelines for a family forum?". Yes, the tabloids go hormonal, but hormones do not control people entirely. Stop to think about things before it posts. And even in the tamest days, the tabloids may not fit with an ideal family forum because some parents would hate their very existence. But I think you know what we're getting at. There's a difference between saying something like *closets so-and-so* or *makes sweet passionate...* yeah, you see what I'm getting at. Kind of goes in the same vein as the not-too-graphic in descriptions above.

4. Just to reiterate, use GOOD JUDGEMENT

Yes, I know, even I slip up at times just like everyone else. Mods are only humans who have responsibility. We still slip up and make mistakes. But just because a mistake may be made here and there, it does not give free reign for anyone else to say "Well so-and-so did..."

Have fun, the 'bloids have become a lounge for kicking back and having fun...just remember that fun isn't limitless.


((Note to full mods/Spot/Mindy: Don't sticky this right away. Otherwise it'll get lost in the mental-filter of stickied threads...leave it be for a few days or so))

[glow=teal,2,300]I vote that it should be stickied if the 'Friendly Reminder for the Bloiders' thread is stickied.[/glow]