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Post by thegreenmooseofdoom on Aug 25, 2004 18:03:16 GMT -5
I think I'll finish this with a quote from Mr. Dubya... "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right. " For cripes sake, someone get that man a thesaurus! |
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Post by The Wanderer on Aug 25, 2004 18:50:28 GMT -5
Looks like I have to play moderator of this debate... (No I don't mean of this board, I mean keeping the debate on the issue, so please don't get angry with me. *makes puppy-face*)
This topic concerns people both foreign-- and domestic, that have hatred towards the United States. If I want to hear things I don't KNOW for a fact, about Bush and his worse moments, I'll simply turn the t.v. on to CNN.
The only thing I really want to know, is what you people's opinion on people around the world holding a grudge against the United States. I wanted to know, because I feel confused and troubled about witnessing people unleashing blind hate towards a country they feel have wronged them.
Sorry for bringing this up, but I feel that the Bush-bashing just isn't fit for this particular topic. The U.S. government as a whole, maybe, but not just Bush.
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Post by Crystal on Aug 25, 2004 23:47:11 GMT -5
For cripes sake, someone get that man a thesaurus! *agrees fervently* |
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Post by Oily on Aug 26, 2004 7:17:50 GMT -5
Oh, and Tahu, there was a reason to invade Iraq. We had reports that Iraq had WMDs and ready to use 'em against us. Britain had the same reports. We knew Saddam was despotic and evil. We've seen the mass graves and how demented the man was. So we went in to take Saddam out, liberate Iraq, and get rid of the WMD threat. Let me ask you a question...wouldn't it be better to have this taken care of now or to find out only too late (as in they were used against us) that Saddam had the weapons and was going to use 'em? You'd be screaming bloody murder at Bush if he hadn't gone in and taken care of it when he had the intelligence! Just like the people from the 9/11 commision. You can also say Bush was just finishing his Father's work. Well, let me tell you something, that work should've been finished with Clinton. But Clinton didn't do it. So after that 8 year relaxation, all of a sudden it's wrong to finish a job that was left undone? Heh. According to some, I guess it is. Yeah, Britain had the same reports. Which they admit now were exaggerated. The WMDs weren't ready to launch in 15 minutes at all. There was no immediate threat. The intelligence has been described as "bad intelligence." Iraq has been admitted as no threat. Someone who was in the White House said after 9/11, Bush was running around asking about Iraq, eager to link it to Iraq. Now, whether or not there were WMDs, whether or not the war was done for the right reasons, the fact is - we are now in Iraq. We have managed to spread hatred against the West - not just America. As someone said "If what the US does affects the whole world, we should at least get a vote in it." Whether the war was right or wrong, we have the consequences of it now. |
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Post by Stal on Aug 26, 2004 12:00:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Britain had the same reports. Which they admit now were exaggerated. The WMDs weren't ready to launch in 15 minutes at all. There was no immediate threat. The intelligence has been described as "bad intelligence." Iraq has been admitted as no threat. Someone who was in the White House said after 9/11, Bush was running around asking about Iraq, eager to link it to Iraq. Now, whether or not there were WMDs, whether or not the war was done for the right reasons, the fact is - we are now in Iraq. We have managed to spread hatred against the West - not just America. As someone said "If what the US does affects the whole world, we should at least get a vote in it." Whether the war was right or wrong, we have the consequences of it now. Yeah. I know Bush was eager to link it to Iraq. But I think it was more hope then trying to falsify reports. And it's not too much of a hatred against the west. America is still number one hated. People are more open about it now. But Britain isn't as hated, I'd say. And the rest of Europe...heh. |
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Post by Tahu on Aug 28, 2004 20:45:01 GMT -5
Yes, Bush was very eager to link it to Iraq. So eager in fact, that he said this when asked why he keeps insisting that there was a relationship between iraq and al qaeda
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda, because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. "
That really clears it up Dubya...
Meh, we are off dpic again.
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