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Post by TK on Mar 1, 2003 21:45:19 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That really is a compliment, you know, because everyone says that I'm basicly his clone minus the y-chromosome. Heh! Good thing that you added the thing at the end, it would've been sort of *cough* awkward.
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Mar 1, 2003 21:46:58 GMT -5
And the North Korea thing--well, from what I understand, the leaders there haven't been killing off their own people, and they can't not realize that's what they'd be doing if they bombed the U.S. Yes, patjade, our local expert on foreign and military affairs, told us all about that.
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Post by TK on Mar 1, 2003 21:48:01 GMT -5
Yes; which is why we shouldn't go blaming them. It isn;t anyone's fault... Exactly. People keep blaming a sole target (be it Bush or Suddam) withour knowing all of the facts. And even if they did, it can't be blamed on one target. Even if America started bombing Iraq, Iraq provoked it. But I'm not saying bombing would be right, being provoked or not.
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Post by Smiley on Mar 1, 2003 21:48:53 GMT -5
If Bush were to start bombing now--no, I wouldn't support that. If our relationship with Iraq goes downhill very steeply, or if better evidence is produced--well...that could be a different story, and maybe I'd support war then. Who knows what'll happen next year, or next month, or tomorrow? Wars in general are bad, but there are some that I believe are necessary. And the North Korea thing--well, from what I understand, the leaders there haven't been killing off their own people, and they can't not realize that's what they'd be doing if they bombed the U.S. Yes, I agree. I'm not afraid of the whole Korea thing, either. It's Iraq I'm concerned with. I almost feel guilty stating my thoughts about it, since the media's information is only partially true (or maybe not true at all). If something bigger were to happen, then I would probably support it, but as of right now I am not 100% sure if it is necessary. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not, and based on what I know, it's in between.
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Post by mushroom on Mar 1, 2003 21:49:07 GMT -5
Yes; which is why we shouldn't go blaming them. It isn;t anyone's fault... I disagree--just because several people contributed to a situation doesn't mean none are at fault. Suppose my little sister and I started calling each other names, and then we got into a physical fight. We wouldn't both go unpunished just because the blame doesn't belong entirely to either of us: we would both be punished. We would both have been at fault.
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Post by Smiley on Mar 1, 2003 21:51:50 GMT -5
Exactly. People keep blaming a sole target (be it Bush or Suddam) withour knowing all of the facts. And even if they did, it can't be blamed on one target. Even if America started bombing Iraq, Iraq provoked it. But I'm not saying bombing would be right, being provoked or not. No, it wouldn't be. Bombing kills both innocent and guilty people, and at the moment, I don't think it's worth the risk, regardless. I think we should send in a few spies to make absolutely positively 100% sure that they have 1) weapons of mass destruction and 2) are planning on using them. If no to either one, then I think we should hold back. This thing is getting pretty complicated, and until we know for sure, there is nothing we can do. Like I said, it isn't worth the risk.
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Post by TK on Mar 1, 2003 21:52:07 GMT -5
I disagree--just because several people contributed to a situation doesn't mean none are at fault. Suppose my little sister and I started calling each other names, and then we got into a physical fight. We wouldn't both go unpunished just because the blame doesn't belong entirely to either of us: we would both be punished. We would both have been at fault. I think he just worded it wrong. He knows it was started by someone, but not one individual. But I really shouldn't speak for others...
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Post by Smiley on Mar 1, 2003 21:53:37 GMT -5
I disagree--just because several people contributed to a situation doesn't mean none are at fault. Suppose my little sister and I started calling each other names, and then we got into a physical fight. We wouldn't both go unpunished just because the blame doesn't belong entirely to either of us: we would both be punished. We would both have been at fault. Well, yes; but whoever started it, be it either you or your sister, they somehow provoked the other, right? It's the same thing...only, we have no way of knowing who started it all. So instead of blaming them both, I think we should blame neither. That is my opinion, anyway
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Post by TK on Mar 1, 2003 21:54:37 GMT -5
No, it wouldn't be. Bombing kills both innocent and guilty people, and at the moment, I don't think it's worth the risk, regardless. I think we should send in a few spies to make absolutely positively 100% sure that they have 1) weapons of mass destruction and 2) are planning on using them. If no to either one, then I think we should hold back. This thing is getting pretty complicated, and until we know for sure, there is nothing we can do. Like I said, it isn't worth the risk. And if they do have those weapons?
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Post by Smiley on Mar 1, 2003 21:56:38 GMT -5
And if they do have those weapons? Well, until we know, it isn't worth the risk...but we don't know for sure, that's what I meant
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Post by TK on Mar 1, 2003 21:59:33 GMT -5
Well, until we know, it isn't worth the risk...but we don't know for sure, that's what I meant Yes, but what if we were sure they had them. Would you want to attack? The problem is, weapons of mass destruction are things that go boom. If you attack something that goes boom with another thing that goes boom...You know.
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Post by Smiley on Mar 1, 2003 22:01:19 GMT -5
Yes, but what if we were sure they had them. Would you want to attack? The problem is, weapons of mass destruction are things that go boom. If you attack something that goes boom with another thing that goes boom...You know. Well, yeah...the whole thing is just so complicated! We don't want to kill everyone in Iraq, but if there are weapons of mass destruction, then, well...yeah...oh, man! This is really, REALLY getting on my nerves! It just makes no sense!
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Post by TK on Mar 1, 2003 22:04:27 GMT -5
Well, yeah...the whole thing is just so complicated! We don't want to kill everyone in Iraq, but if there are weapons of mass destruction, then, well...yeah...oh, man! This is really, REALLY getting on my nerves! It just makes no sense! They're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Mar 1, 2003 22:04:40 GMT -5
*laughs out loud* It doesn't, does it? It's just FAR to big and confusing for our little minds!
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Post by Smiley on Mar 1, 2003 22:07:19 GMT -5
*laughs out loud* It doesn't, does it? It's just FAR to big and confusing for our little minds! Ow...I'm thinking too hard... *rubs head* Yup...it's a paradox! darned if you, darned if you don't!
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