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Post by RielCZ on Jul 25, 2016 0:25:29 GMT -5
I don't know, it's probably better to befriend the bear than to poke it until it attacks you. Hillary will almost certainly continue NATO's eastward expansion and militarization of previously Soviet-sphere states (violating earlier NATO understandings with Russia) and thus continue provocation of Russia. Meanwhile, with threat of pro-Sanders mutiny following the email-scandal reveal of lack of DNC non-partisanship, Wasserman Schultz resigns! And immediately starts campaigning with Clinton. Too little too late to put that part of the "democratic" back in the Democratic Party in terms of the nomination but this is certainly a step forward. Yep. This will indeed be a very interesting and likely very factional several days in Philadelphia. |
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Post by Moni on Jul 25, 2016 1:00:48 GMT -5
It's better to look up to an authoritarian ruler and shirk all of our NATO allies if Russia attacks them? That would be a huuuuuuuge diplomatic hit with the strongest US allies. He's not "warming up to the bear" or Russia in general, he's a Putin fanboy--he specifically talks about Putin being a "strong ruler." (He also spoke positively of Saddam Hussein for the same reason.) He also depends on Russia for a lot of his money. This isn't about realpolitik for Trump--it's about his personal likes and money, as it always is.
The United States needs to support less brutal dictators, not more of them.
But of course, that's what I'd expect from a guy who runs his campaign on racism, fear-mongering, and toxic masculinity. Our foriegn policy failures are not with poor wittle Wussia, I would say that we're actually in the right (for once) to protect the sovereignty of former USSR states.
Our failures are with all those third world countries that we constantly "liberate" and all the terrible dictators we support around the globe. (A lot of these are from Latin American countries by the way--and Trump is going to have a hard time getting warmer with them.)
And you know what? Trump isn't going to stop that. He's openly greedy--he wants to take oil from Iraq, for God's sake, and he runs a huge part of his campaign on doing "whatever it takes" to stop "the terrorists." I don't really expect Clinton to change a lot of what I despise about our foreign policy, but I at least trust her to not mess anything up majorly and make a fool of the United States (the only leaders to say anything positive about Trump is Putin and Kim-Jong Un, the rest of the world thinks he's absolutely insane.)
Trump's ideas on not protecting our NATO allies unless they "do their part of the deal with us" financially actually reminds me of the policy of our dear Pharoah Sisi in Egypt making his mercenary army, rightly nicknamed as "Baby Ghaddafi" (another despicable despot) by a lot of journalists.
Don't get me wrong--I was positively disgusted when the Obama administration called Sisi a friend of the US, even as they tortured US citizens. I'm disgusted by their drone program that at one point declared all "military-aged males" as militants. I'm against how liberally we use things like conventional bombing and even economic sanctions that don't work 66% of the time. But I don't expect Trump to stop any of it or to be any better than Clinton would be (especially since he's criticized her for being "weak" on foriegn policy). This broken facet of our foreign policy has been around since the '60s, and I can't think of anyone from either major party who has challenged it (except libertarians, but they advocate the extreme of isolationism.)
There's almost no political figure right now I wouldn't vote for over Donald Trump. I don't think you really realize how scary he is to someone who has had her family members arrested and almost executed for merely speaking out against a government. I see so much of delusional third-world dictators in him. In terms of foriegn policy, a literal goat would be better than Trump.
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Post by M is for Morphine on Jul 25, 2016 7:32:03 GMT -5
Yep. This will indeed be a very interesting and likely very factional several days in Philadelphia. My street was blocked off by police cordon all day yesterday, super excited to see what today holds. -____- |
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 26, 2016 13:13:52 GMT -5
I would vote for a literal goat over Trump.
Trump has said, "I alone can fix this." That mindset is scary. He has advocated a blatant disregard for the Constitution yet he thinks he's the "law and order candidate."
He has a blatant disregard for minorities, blatant disrespect for women, wants to build a wall as big as his ego, etc.
There's more I would say but I think it's already been said on this thread.
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Post by Yoyti on Jul 26, 2016 13:21:15 GMT -5
I would vote for a literal goat over Trump. I think you're really underselling the Goat Party platform here. I mean, who could argue with their Free Milk For Kids program? |
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 28, 2016 11:20:45 GMT -5
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Post by Jae on Jul 28, 2016 13:06:37 GMT -5
The biggest thing I took away from that is has Trump still not released his tax records? I remember that being brought up last year and then it went away, is he still getting away with it? |
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 28, 2016 13:07:12 GMT -5
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Post by Moni on Jul 28, 2016 13:44:43 GMT -5
Nope, Trump is never releasing his tax records. (Because they'll hurt him if he does.)\
But "Crooked Hillary" certainly did. Welp.
Also despite my political differences with him Tim Kaine is certainly affable. He reminds me of my dad in a way (except my dad is pretty far left.)
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 28, 2016 14:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Jul 28, 2016 14:25:28 GMT -5
For political mudslinging like that, that's absolutely low/despicable.
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Post by Jae on Jul 28, 2016 18:01:30 GMT -5
lol watch out Mark Cuban he'll sue you for that. it's defamatory to call a billionaire just a millionaire, you know. Seriously though, it baffles me that run-of-the-mill Republican voters are willing to elect a businessman because of being a businessman when said businessman won't even tell them how successful (or unsuccessful) he is at running a business. |
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 28, 2016 23:02:21 GMT -5
I doubt Mr. Trump is worth anything close to what he says he's worth. As a businessman I'm pretty sure he went bankrupt 4 times and "used the law to his advantage" meaning he high tailed out of Atlantic City with unpaid bills. Thus, the workers that were just getting by and needed that paycheck got stiffed while Trump runs off with his millions. I have no sympathy for a millionaire/billionaire that doesn't pay bills when many in America are struggling to make ends meet.
Come on, Mark Cuban pays his bills. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet actually donate to charity while Trump only says he donates to charity. You know what, I bet the tax returns also show that Trump doesn't actually contribute much to the veterans organizations he talks about.
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 30, 2016 17:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by Moni on Jul 30, 2016 20:25:38 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't bring myself to be outraged. I knew he was a psychopath. This is the same Vietnam draft-dodger that claimed his struggle with not getting STDs in the eighties was equal to the turmoil that Vietnam war vets went through. No, really. On not getting STDs in the 80s: "My personal Vietnam." "I like people who weren't captured, OK?" - On John McCain I can't feign surprise. |
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