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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 14:59:02 GMT -5
@ Sarn - Since you read the whole GWII thread, I'm sure you remember how Strife used psionic powers (earth magic), and I wouldn't call those subtle. Earth magic can be very powerful, since... if you are cabable... you can also work with metals and rocks. =D
@ Celes - Not all dragons use fire xD What about ice dragons or poison? And in GWII Ikkin's wind magic definitely kicked Strife's butt. But yeah, I see your point ^_^
Well, it'll prove interesting indeed *nods* :3
*is eagerly awaiting a response to her post in the GW so she can continue* xD
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Post by Rikku on Dec 8, 2009 15:29:46 GMT -5
Is it just me... or does all most of the mages have some kind of ability to make/control fire? xD I really would like to stand out as far as magic goes, but the whole fire thing is deeply rooted into my character. I just hope, that since the Mages get a lot of focus seeing how The Underdeep is connected to the Manor, that it won't end out with just one, big fire fight. xD Not gonna break away from fire. My fire is blue (so is Nova's?) and caused by genetical abilities - therefor not really Magic-magic. But still. Makes me wonder -why- fire is so popular. I'm just curious, really ^_^ So... mages. Why fire? =) Well, it's shiny. And destructive. And it makes sense in Rikku's case, because she has to get power from somewhere, and fire's an excellent source of it. Wouldn't be fun to be a plain ol' vanilla necromancer. Pyro-necromancy's much more fun. ... And also I have been far too influenced by Langley's Ark. >.>; C'mon. Zombies on fire are awesome. |
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Post by Celestial on Dec 8, 2009 15:34:17 GMT -5
@ Celes - Not all dragons use fire xD What about ice dragons or poison? And in GWII Ikkin's wind magic definitely kicked Strife's butt. But yeah, I see your point ^_^ I'm not a fire-breathing dragon (sonic shockwave) but I generally run on popular perception when deciding my magic (because I was too lazy to think of anything when I created the character and it just stuck). So, yeah. xD |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 15:42:40 GMT -5
@ Celes - Not all dragons use fire xD What about ice dragons or poison? And in GWII Ikkin's wind magic definitely kicked Strife's butt. But yeah, I see your point ^_^ I'm not a fire-breathing dragon (sonic shockwave) but I generally run on popular perception when deciding my magic (because I was too lazy to think of anything when I created the character and it just stuck). So, yeah. xD Well, dragons are awesome. Period. xD I hope Leoness gets to meet dragon Celestial at some point. ... *idea* Oh dear, please let us meet up during a battle... please! *insert facial expression that sums up the feeling of getting an awesome idea that you -really- want to execute* xD |
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Dec 8, 2009 15:45:15 GMT -5
Is it just me... or does all most of the mages have some kind of ability to make/control fire? xD I really would like to stand out as far as magic goes, but the whole fire thing is deeply rooted into my character. I just hope, that since the Mages get a lot of focus seeing how The Underdeep is connected to the Manor, that it won't end out with just one, big fire fight. xD Not gonna break away from fire. My fire is blue (so is Nova's?) and caused by genetical abilities - therefor not really Magic-magic. But still. Makes me wonder -why- fire is so popular. I'm just curious, really ^_^ So... mages. Why fire? =) Er, probably because fire is the most useful element, but the wolf part of my character is loosely based off of Houndour/Houndoom, a Fire/Dark type Pokemon. Don't worry Leo, I'll probably add in another elemental ability (most likely light, I'm not sure yet) later. Either that, or some sort of backstory explaining how my character got his fire abilities. |
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Post by Sq on Dec 8, 2009 15:48:08 GMT -5
If I were a mage, I'd be ice for sure. For some reason that always seemed like the coolest element to me. XD
Maybe lightning or poison, even.
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Post by Celestial on Dec 8, 2009 15:58:19 GMT -5
I'm not a fire-breathing dragon (sonic shockwave) but I generally run on popular perception when deciding my magic (because I was too lazy to think of anything when I created the character and it just stuck). So, yeah. xD Well, dragons are awesome. Period. xD I hope Leoness gets to meet dragon Celestial at some point. ... *idea* Oh dear, please let us meet up during a battle... please! *insert facial expression that sums up the feeling of getting an awesome idea that you -really- want to execute* xD <3 Thank you. I can't promise anything but hopefully that will be incorporated. ^^ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 17:01:01 GMT -5
Is it just me... or does all most of the mages have some kind of ability to make/control fire? xD I really would like to stand out as far as magic goes, but the whole fire thing is deeply rooted into my character. I just hope, that since the Mages get a lot of focus seeing how The Underdeep is connected to the Manor, that it won't end out with just one, big fire fight. xD Not gonna break away from fire. My fire is blue (so is Nova's?) and caused by genetical abilities - therefor not really Magic-magic. But still. Makes me wonder -why- fire is so popular. I'm just curious, really ^_^ So... mages. Why fire? =) Aly's a long-time character of mine, and I happened to like fire a lot when I made her, 'cause I thought fire mages were cool. ^^ Right now, I still like it--it's a great offense, a decent defense, useful for situations out of battle, and it has a lot of nice discussions and themes to go with it. Destruction's always handy, for one. XD I have branched out into paying attention to other branches--I currently have a character for every one of my elements except for ice and light, I believe--but fire will still always be my favorite. Fire is also, for some (it depends on how you define things) easier to access. For me, I require a water mage to have ready access to water (and by that, I mean literally touching, 'cause you're not gonna get much out of the atmosphere) to use it, and same with earth mages (though that's easier). Wind mages seem to have the short end of the stick in what they can do, unless they're really powerful. (I mean, I'm aware they can do a lot, and I have a wind dragon that lousy' suffocates people instead of breathing fire, but...yeah. It generally is perceived as a sissy element). I also personally really, really don't like dealing with illusions or someone screwing with your mind, so dark and light magic are in but not for my use. So...yeah. ^^ Being resistant to fire is also handy. ...Yup. |
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Post by Jina on Dec 8, 2009 17:15:41 GMT -5
I really don't get the sissy wind thing, I mean, you could do all of these, just by shoving air around:
Explode people
Implode people
Suffocate people, which could also be used to knock out instead of kill
Make sound proof barriers
Deflect projectiles
Move objects around
Make objects out of highly compressed air
Travel in just about any environment without a problem
Put out fires
Give people various medical conditions, as well as being able to push diseases between people
Manipulate every other element, with the exception of dark
And much, much more!
Fire can...
Burn things
So while I can see why people like fire, air is more useful.
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Post by Rikku on Dec 8, 2009 17:24:34 GMT -5
Fire can burn things, cook things, heat things, give warmth, give light. Probably handy for threatening people, too. Also, dependin' on what kind of mage you are, you might be able to snuff out or control other fires (non-magical ones), so that adds taking away warmth and light to the list.
Like the other elements, how much power and adaptability you get out of it is really only limited by creativity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 17:24:37 GMT -5
*reads up*
...okay, would it be a bad time to mention that I had a really strange idea about the Underdeep's origins? Because I got the idea that it might actually be a defensive system for something - and that it's weaker than it used to be. Yeah, I know. Straaaaaange. Could work if some thought was put into it, but still.
Hehehe, all this growing mayhem!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 17:28:02 GMT -5
Jina: That depends on how wind/air magic works in your universe. For me, manipulating anything takes a lot of energy, so holding vacuums or compressing air would take a lot, lot of energy, and most people wouldn't bother to do it.
Also, fire can be used...
-By itself (projectiles)
-To light other things (explosives (like my flash powder), wood, etc.)
-As a barrier/wall (circle, cage, curtain, etc.)
-Melting various things (destroying objects, melting metals, etc.)
-Supplement an attack (add extra damage to blades, arrows, knives, etc.)
-Suffocate (it would take out a lot of
-Cooking (for use or torture, whichever)
-Driving things out/away (creatures, etc.)
-Light
-Heating
-Killing (besides outright burning, people depend a lot on water in their bodies)
-Signalling
There's also a good thing about fire, i.e. you only need to supply the spark to have it carry on by itself. It's not as fast, but it has its own force.
Also, fire just looks flashier and stuff. ^^
EDIT: As Rikku said--there's that too. Being able to control temperature is a great plus, if you're like me you get resistance to fire and that's an amazing defense.
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Post by Celestial on Dec 8, 2009 17:31:18 GMT -5
*reads up* ...okay, would it be a bad time to mention that I had a really strange idea about the Underdeep's origins? Because I got the idea that it might actually be a defensive system for something - and that it's weaker than it used to be. Yeah, I know. Straaaaaange. Could work if some thought was put into it, but still. Hehehe, all this growing mayhem! Weaker? xD I'm terrified to think of what it was when it was strong. But that is an interesting idea Kwoi. |
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Post by Zylaa on Dec 8, 2009 17:48:25 GMT -5
Actually I'd argue that we aren't sliding down that scale yet. We're building ourselves a very nice stockpile of Nightmare Fuel, but that's not cynicism. ... So I agree that TEH POWAH OF LUV would be an epic as all heck ending. <3 Rider-- Thank you for the list! So we can actually have a starting point for the canon! Also, I'd like to point out that the way I understood it, the Underdeep isn't evil. Like, it's not sentient enough to be evil. Of course that makes it even creepier since you can't exactly reason with something like that. Rikku-- ... You used "It can't get any worse"? You fool!! You doomed yourself! Edit-- And there is no such thing as too influenced by Langley's Ark! Or if there is, I'm sure there's a protocol for that. *shot* |
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Post by Rikku on Dec 8, 2009 17:53:43 GMT -5
Rikku-- ... You used "It can't get any worse"? You fool!! You doomed yourself! I know. ;_______; WHAT HAVE I DONE. |
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