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Post by Ikkin on Aug 18, 2007 23:36:52 GMT -5
I finally found a link to the full version of that picture... it's from the second KHII novel, apparently. I also read a lot of other stuff about those novels that made me really want them to come here so I could read them. D= Particularly regarding Axel, Riku, and Namine. ...apparently, Disney has actually had mascot versions of KH characters in the past ( Sora, along with the KH versions of Donald and Goofy). I wish I could have seen that. XD Also... Axel as Jack Sparrow wins the universe.  Heehee...  I wish they would have Kingdom Hearts stuff at Disneyland and such. That'd be cool. I think this is one of the very, very few times when we want Disney to merchandise more. xD Is that, like, Disneyland or Disneyworld? If so, that is pure win. @.@ It's win anyway, but still. <3 One of the two; I don't remember if the person who posted it said which one, though. ^^; |
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Post by Elcie on Aug 19, 2007 8:01:37 GMT -5
Very, very interesting. I'd forgotten about half of this stuff. Xemnas... he might have lost his heart, but he never lost his obsession with his memories. The scene between Xigbar and Zexion, talking about Castle Oblivion and the "Room of Sleep", is very telling... suggesting that Xemnas might not have been quite as obsessed with regaining Kingdom Hearts as he was obsessed with regaining his memories.
Sora came 'early' according to Xigbar. It makes me wonder about the connection between him and Ven - or, possibly, between Terra and Riku, as Riku was supposed to gain the Keyblade until it rejected his darkness.
And Castle Oblivion was adopted by the Organization so they could study memories - again, probably mostly Xemnas's idea. Of course, the room with Aqua's armor in it is probably the Room of Sleep, although that was never stated outright... but what other room would Xemnas go to in Hollow Bastion? My theory is that the Room of Sleep was a place where Xemnas would go to try and remember... He kept Aqua's armor (unless that was Aqua herself in a sleeping state) as a relic from his past. Possibly he had it as Xehanort but couldn't remember how he got it... or perhaps he found her again once he'd lost his heart.
And was that Xemnas? It makes the most sense, but I don't know - I remember there being discrepancies with how he wore his cloak if that makes sense... And I'm not quite as good as recognizing Japanese voices. Though I did recognize Demyx's voice as Kaoru's this time XD
The Room of Sleep was created by Xemnas/Xehanort, but the Organization discovered the Room of Awakening. And I'm guessing both of them have something to do with memory... I just wish we'd seen the Room of Awakening. Unless it was possibly the room at the top of Castle Oblivion where Namine was being kept... that would make sense. It could have something to do with those sleep pods that Sora, Donald, and Goofy were in.
And, of course, there's Xehanort/Xemnas's connection with the people in the secret ending. I'm leaning more to the possibility that Xehanort was an enemy to Ven, Aqua, and Terra... but of course, it's also possible that Xemnas's calling Aqua "friend" was very literal. Or... maybe even he doesn't know who she is or what she meant to him, only that she was someone from his past, and so he wants to find out as much as possible about her, Ven, and Terra.
... Oh yeah. Mickey. I remembered the whole theory about him and time period now. The grayscale clothing plus the keyblade he's wielding points to a past Mickey, coming out of the Timeless River period into his apprenticeship with Yen Sid. There. XD
If Terra was Saix's Other... or someone's Other in general... well, the names don't fit, for one thing, and for another, Terra is apparently still alive. Unless the battle with him and Sora doesn't technically fit into the timeline at all.
Ven, though, we don't know if Ven is still alive, if he eventually got unfrozen or if that was it for him. Xigbar said Xemnas was looking for another "friend," and I think that's more likely to refer to Terra than to Ven.
Not to mention that Ven's resemblance to Sora/Roxas is something to think about - I guess people have pointed to him being a being similar to Heartless and Nobodies, but I don't think so. Either it's a familiar relation, or some sort of... I don't know, a relation of destiny, if that makes sense at all. But Terra... to me, he seems to be the main figure of the armored trio, and not Ven... Unlike Sora, Kairi, and Riku, where Sora is the more major figure. Interesting.
And his eyes turning yellow. Possibly giving way to darkness? Just like Riku did. Hm... Boy, does he look like Saix D:
Edit: But he hates Xehanort... *just looked at some scene translations* So it seems that they were adversaries or, possibly, Xehanort betrayed them. Maybe... if Xehanort did something to Aqua, captured her in the Room of Sleep... or if Ven was killed in that fight... that sort of explains why Terra would hate Xehanort. I mean, in what we see of their interactions, they seem like close friends, not just allies. OR, if Xehanort managed to get Terra to surrender to the darkness, such as when his eyes turn yellow in that video, it would explain why he'd hate him after reverting to normal.
Oh, and... Hm. Nomura did say that we hadn't seen Aqua, Terra, or Ven before when we saw them in the first secret ending - but has there been any statement of the kind for the FM+ ending? I don't know. If not, that means that the masked person who was fighting them could possibly be Xehanort. Maybe he turned on them to join the bald guy, since his mask bore a slight similarity to the Chasers' helmets...
Chasers. We still don't know that they're called that, do we? And I suppose it's more likely that these guys were just armored Keybladers, while the Chasers are the guys attacking them - the bald one and the masked one. Hmeh...
That's all I've got. XD Geez this is confusing - I need to draw a diagram... |
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Post by Rider on Aug 20, 2007 15:42:57 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]... Whee? I <3 Axel!Sparrow! <3 <3 <3 [/glow] [glow=red,2,300]But the Chasers' armor remind me WAY too much of the Judges' armor from FFXII. That's gonna drive me mad. it's not so much the actual armor as the concept. T_T[/glow] [glow=red,2,300]If Terra is the leader of the Chaser group and Riku was supposed to have gotten the Keyblade, then that makes perfect sense to me. (Though if there's a third group, which knowing Disney there will be, I'd love to see butt-kicking girls who don't have to crossdress. *Mulan reference*) So wait, the Room of Sleep is in Hollow Bastion? Maybe Xehanort was once friends with the Chasers but then they left him? Or he left them? Either way, he had to have had soem friends outside that silly lab at some point or another. If not, well, maybe if he had more friends, he wouldn't have started messing witht he fabric of the universe! See, all Xehanort needs is a breat big hug!  Maybe Terra is Saix's Other's brother? PLOT TWIST! *at that point, was not actually serious* >.> Though I can see where Terra's comin' from, if he did give in. Watching your best friend get freezy-zapped right in front of your eyes? He wasnts to remove various organs from the person what did it. So maybe, like Riku, he can weild the power of Darkness for the side of Good. And the question remains: What are they chasing?[/glow] |
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Post by Ikkin on Aug 27, 2007 16:37:35 GMT -5
And was that Xemnas? It makes the most sense, but I don't know - I remember there being discrepancies with how he wore his cloak if that makes sense... And I'm not quite as good as recognizing Japanese voices. Though I did recognize Demyx's voice as Kaoru's this time XD
The Room of Sleep was created by Xemnas/Xehanort, but the Organization discovered the Room of Awakening. And I'm guessing both of them have something to do with memory... I just wish we'd seen the Room of Awakening. Unless it was possibly the room at the top of Castle Oblivion where Namine was being kept... that would make sense. It could have something to do with those sleep pods that Sora, Donald, and Goofy were in. I'm pretty sure it was Xemnas; why else would he be remembering Xehanort's memory about Ansem telling him to give up the experiments? None of the other apprentices were around when that happened, in the cutscene at least, so it'd almost have to be him.
I'm not quite so sure that the Organization ever did discover the Room of Awakening, though. The cloaked figure in "The New Headquarters" cutscene (...I think it's Xigbar?) was saying that Xemnas was searching for the Room of Awakening, which suggests that they hadn't actually found it yet. And they definitely hadn't been able to get into it, since Xigbar was wondering whether the "other friend" might have been there. They could have found it in Castle Oblivion (Xemnas seemed to have thought that it would be there), but it's not clear that he did.
As for the sleep pods, those were apparently made by the Organization themselves for studying people's memories (interviews again >.> ), so I'm not sure they'd have to do with the Room of Awakening. Yeah, there's definitely some connection between Xehanort and Ven, Aqua, and Terra, and enemy seems to be the most likely, particularly in light of Terra's views on Xehanort when he's beaten in Final Mix. But then again, there was the thing from the code about Terra being "Master Xehanort's avenger," which suggests more of an ally thing... There's also the fact that Xemnas was apparently talking to Aqua, since he was supposed to be alone in the room save for the armor.
I don't think there's really any obvious connection that we can make. xD Except that it's pretty clear that the fact that he appeared only after the Keyblade warriors disappeared is probably important.
...it also means that he managed to both become Ansem's favorite apprentice and plunge Radiant Garden into darkness within a year of appearing there. Wow, that's kind of impressive. xD I was reading a LJ post and comments thread about Kingdom Hearts II, and how it combines the Disney and Square styles of storytelling, with Disney being more "black and white" and Square being more "shades of grey."
One of the posts said that the Nobodies sort of get the odd end of that, being sympathetic "shades of grey" Square enemies who end up being treated by the good guys as "black and white" villains who deserve to die due to their very nature even though they're kind of... not, and that the game might be inconsistent because of that.
I was thinking about that, because I don't like the idea that the game was inconsistent, and got to thinking about just who it was who defined Nobodies in black and white terms - Yen Sid and DiZ. I'm pretty sure that DiZ isn't meant to be taken as an accurate source on it (considering how nasty he is in general, and how he actually apologized to Roxas in the end), and Yen Sid said what he did early in the game so it could be a "you're not ready to know that yet" thing rather than a statement of the game's actual position.
That's not the most interesting thing about who were the ones doing the black-and-white thing, though. Yen Sid is Disney backwards. DiZ is the first syllable of Disney. I really have to wonder if they planned that. xD Another thing that was mentioned on the LJ community was the condition Axel was in even before he arrived in Betwixt and Between to save Sora with his last kamikaze attack.
I'm not quite sure how I hadn't noticed it. He was taken down by Dusks, fer cryin' out loud. xD And I was the one who stopped fighting the Nobodies in that last fight to watch Axel (which was really sad. D= He was all out-of-breath and in the typical video game "heal me plz" pose but I couldn't heal him and D= ), and I didn't notice it.
But it really makes me wonder - what happened to him? Did he try to steal Kairi back from Saix and fail or something (...he did seem awfully concerned about Kairi in that scene xD "Now go save her!" "Go, find Kairi." "Kairi's in the castle dungeon. Now go.")? Or did he just get caught by Saix and barely manage to escape or something?
I do kind of like the idea that opening the portal was Axel's idea of a last laugh, though. "Sure, you might have gotten rid of me, but now you're all going to be killed by the Keyblade master. Ha!" XD |
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Post by Elcie on Aug 27, 2007 18:36:05 GMT -5
And was that Xemnas? It makes the most sense, but I don't know - I remember there being discrepancies with how he wore his cloak if that makes sense... And I'm not quite as good as recognizing Japanese voices. Though I did recognize Demyx's voice as Kaoru's this time XD
The Room of Sleep was created by Xemnas/Xehanort, but the Organization discovered the Room of Awakening. And I'm guessing both of them have something to do with memory... I just wish we'd seen the Room of Awakening. Unless it was possibly the room at the top of Castle Oblivion where Namine was being kept... that would make sense. It could have something to do with those sleep pods that Sora, Donald, and Goofy were in. I'm pretty sure it was Xemnas; why else would he be remembering Xehanort's memory about Ansem telling him to give up the experiments? None of the other apprentices were around when that happened, in the cutscene at least, so it'd almost have to be him.
I'm not quite so sure that the Organization ever did discover the Room of Awakening, though. The cloaked figure in "The New Headquarters" cutscene (...I think it's Xigbar?) was saying that Xemnas was searching for the Room of Awakening, which suggests that they hadn't actually found it yet. And they definitely hadn't been able to get into it, since Xigbar was wondering whether the "other friend" might have been there. They could have found it in Castle Oblivion (Xemnas seemed to have thought that it would be there), but it's not clear that he did.
As for the sleep pods, those were apparently made by the Organization themselves for studying people's memories (interviews again >.> ), so I'm not sure they'd have to do with the Room of Awakening. Yeah, there's definitely some connection between Xehanort and Ven, Aqua, and Terra, and enemy seems to be the most likely, particularly in light of Terra's views on Xehanort when he's beaten in Final Mix. But then again, there was the thing from the code about Terra being "Master Xehanort's avenger," which suggests more of an ally thing... There's also the fact that Xemnas was apparently talking to Aqua, since he was supposed to be alone in the room save for the armor.
I don't think there's really any obvious connection that we can make. xD Except that it's pretty clear that the fact that he appeared only after the Keyblade warriors disappeared is probably important.
...it also means that he managed to both become Ansem's favorite apprentice and plunge Radiant Garden into darkness within a year of appearing there. Wow, that's kind of impressive. xD I was reading a LJ post and comments thread about Kingdom Hearts II, and how it combines the Disney and Square styles of storytelling, with Disney being more "black and white" and Square being more "shades of grey."
One of the posts said that the Nobodies sort of get the odd end of that, being sympathetic "shades of grey" Square enemies who end up being treated by the good guys as "black and white" villains who deserve to die due to their very nature even though they're kind of... not, and that the game might be inconsistent because of that.
I was thinking about that, because I don't like the idea that the game was inconsistent, and got to thinking about just who it was who defined Nobodies in black and white terms - Yen Sid and DiZ. I'm pretty sure that DiZ isn't meant to be taken as an accurate source on it (considering how nasty he is in general, and how he actually apologized to Roxas in the end), and Yen Sid said what he did early in the game so it could be a "you're not ready to know that yet" thing rather than a statement of the game's actual position.
That's not the most interesting thing about who were the ones doing the black-and-white thing, though. Yen Sid is Disney backwards. DiZ is the first syllable of Disney. I really have to wonder if they planned that. xD Another thing that was mentioned on the LJ community was the condition Axel was in even before he arrived in Betwixt and Between to save Sora with his last kamikaze attack.
I'm not quite sure how I hadn't noticed it. He was taken down by Dusks, fer cryin' out loud. xD And I was the one who stopped fighting the Nobodies in that last fight to watch Axel (which was really sad. D= He was all out-of-breath and in the typical video game "heal me plz" pose but I couldn't heal him and D= ), and I didn't notice it.
But it really makes me wonder - what happened to him? Did he try to steal Kairi back from Saix and fail or something (...he did seem awfully concerned about Kairi in that scene xD "Now go save her!" "Go, find Kairi." "Kairi's in the castle dungeon. Now go.")? Or did he just get caught by Saix and barely manage to escape or something?
I do kind of like the idea that opening the portal was Axel's idea of a last laugh, though. "Sure, you might have gotten rid of me, but now you're all going to be killed by the Keyblade master. Ha!" XD We don't know that it was only a year after the Keybladers vanished that Xehanort plunged the world into darkness... do we?  As for Terra... Perhaps his "hatred of Xehanort" is directed more specifically at the Heartless or Nobody of Xehanort, while his "avenging" is more to do with avenging the person Xehanort once was before his slide into Darkness. Which would support the theory that Terra and Xehanort were friends/allies, or had been at one point. You're right, he was all injured and stuff...
... I like the theory that he'd narrowly escaped the wrath of Saix ^_^ *makes mental note to write a fanfic* >3 |
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Post by Ikkin on Aug 27, 2007 20:13:59 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was Xemnas; why else would he be remembering Xehanort's memory about Ansem telling him to give up the experiments? None of the other apprentices were around when that happened, in the cutscene at least, so it'd almost have to be him.
I'm not quite so sure that the Organization ever did discover the Room of Awakening, though. The cloaked figure in "The New Headquarters" cutscene (...I think it's Xigbar?) was saying that Xemnas was searching for the Room of Awakening, which suggests that they hadn't actually found it yet. And they definitely hadn't been able to get into it, since Xigbar was wondering whether the "other friend" might have been there. They could have found it in Castle Oblivion (Xemnas seemed to have thought that it would be there), but it's not clear that he did.
As for the sleep pods, those were apparently made by the Organization themselves for studying people's memories (interviews again >.> ), so I'm not sure they'd have to do with the Room of Awakening. Yeah, there's definitely some connection between Xehanort and Ven, Aqua, and Terra, and enemy seems to be the most likely, particularly in light of Terra's views on Xehanort when he's beaten in Final Mix. But then again, there was the thing from the code about Terra being "Master Xehanort's avenger," which suggests more of an ally thing... There's also the fact that Xemnas was apparently talking to Aqua, since he was supposed to be alone in the room save for the armor.
I don't think there's really any obvious connection that we can make. xD Except that it's pretty clear that the fact that he appeared only after the Keyblade warriors disappeared is probably important.
...it also means that he managed to both become Ansem's favorite apprentice and plunge Radiant Garden into darkness within a year of appearing there. Wow, that's kind of impressive. xD I was reading a LJ post and comments thread about Kingdom Hearts II, and how it combines the Disney and Square styles of storytelling, with Disney being more "black and white" and Square being more "shades of grey."
One of the posts said that the Nobodies sort of get the odd end of that, being sympathetic "shades of grey" Square enemies who end up being treated by the good guys as "black and white" villains who deserve to die due to their very nature even though they're kind of... not, and that the game might be inconsistent because of that.
I was thinking about that, because I don't like the idea that the game was inconsistent, and got to thinking about just who it was who defined Nobodies in black and white terms - Yen Sid and DiZ. I'm pretty sure that DiZ isn't meant to be taken as an accurate source on it (considering how nasty he is in general, and how he actually apologized to Roxas in the end), and Yen Sid said what he did early in the game so it could be a "you're not ready to know that yet" thing rather than a statement of the game's actual position.
That's not the most interesting thing about who were the ones doing the black-and-white thing, though. Yen Sid is Disney backwards. DiZ is the first syllable of Disney. I really have to wonder if they planned that. xD Another thing that was mentioned on the LJ community was the condition Axel was in even before he arrived in Betwixt and Between to save Sora with his last kamikaze attack.
I'm not quite sure how I hadn't noticed it. He was taken down by Dusks, fer cryin' out loud. xD And I was the one who stopped fighting the Nobodies in that last fight to watch Axel (which was really sad. D= He was all out-of-breath and in the typical video game "heal me plz" pose but I couldn't heal him and D= ), and I didn't notice it.
But it really makes me wonder - what happened to him? Did he try to steal Kairi back from Saix and fail or something (...he did seem awfully concerned about Kairi in that scene xD "Now go save her!" "Go, find Kairi." "Kairi's in the castle dungeon. Now go.")? Or did he just get caught by Saix and barely manage to escape or something?
I do kind of like the idea that opening the portal was Axel's idea of a last laugh, though. "Sure, you might have gotten rid of me, but now you're all going to be killed by the Keyblade master. Ha!" XD We don't know that it was only a year after the Keybladers vanished that Xehanort plunged the world into darkness... do we? As for Terra... Perhaps his "hatred of Xehanort" is directed more specifically at the Heartless or Nobody of Xehanort, while his "avenging" is more to do with avenging the person Xehanort once was before his slide into Darkness. Which would support the theory that Terra and Xehanort were friends/allies, or had been at one point. You're right, he was all injured and stuff...
... I like the theory that he'd narrowly escaped the wrath of Saix ^_^ *makes mental note to write a fanfic* >3 Well, I found out that Radiant Garden was lost to the darkness nine years before one of the KHs (can't remember which D= ), and I remember something about Xigbar seeing the other Keyblade masters ten years ago.
Since Xehanort didn't appear until the other Keyblade masters disappeared... that means that Xehanort must have completely messed everything up in a year or less.
...I wish I remember where the ten years thing came from for the other Keyblade wielders. D= 'Cause I don't think I make it up.
Yeah, that could make sense... ...poor Axel! DDDDDDD=
I just can't imagine him losing so badly and Saix coming off unharmed, though. >>; I mean... Marluxia didn't want to fight him and I get the feeling he was probably one of the stronger ones. xD
Unless Saix snuck up on him or something. >>; |
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Post by Ikkin on Aug 31, 2007 13:34:32 GMT -5
Double-posting, because I think this is interesting, and it's been a few days. >.> I finally found out why Axel kidnapped Namine. No, it's not to use her as bait to turn Sora into Heartless and get Roxas back. It's for Namine. At least according to the novels. (And it makes a certain amount of sense without the novels being regarded as canon, too - one extra scene from Final Mix has Riku leave Namine with Axel, after all) Which totally made me go "OH! That makes sense now!" Because I couldn't quite figure out what Axel's plan would be if he really did intend to turn Sora into a Heartless, and why Kairi was necessary (I mean... Axel can summon Heartless, most likely. Wouldn't the easiest thing to do be chucking a ton of strong Heartless at Sora?) I think the biggest moment was when I saw who translated the novel scenes, though. xD It's a small web after all, seriously. I'll just link all of it, because I can. ^_^ (It's from the second novel, not the first, but you all probably played the game anyway, so it's not really that spoilery xD And don't ask where chapter 5 went; I linked to all the KHII novel posts I could find) PrologueChapter 1Chapter 2Chapter 3Chapter 4Chapter 6It's not the whole book, but, it's still interesting. There's some translations from the other books out there on other LJs, but I'd have to re-find those. And finally, something that doesn't require a spoiler tag. XD It's only marginally related to Kingdom Hearts, but it amuses me, so... I'm not sure what planet certain newspaper article writers are from to imply that "go[ing] Mickey Mouse" would involve not letting kids listen to rock music. But the mental image of Mickey telling Riku off for listening to it is kind of amusing. XD Particularly because mental-image Riku was listening to something like "Savin' Me." My mind is a weird, weird thing. xD |
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Post by PFA on Aug 31, 2007 13:43:38 GMT -5
So... many... spoiler boxes... @_@ *collapses from spoiler box overload* UM. I must try to make this thread less spoilery and post images. Here's a weird picture of Axel I drew a while ago. Ooh, and I randomly found this on dA's front page, so I'll post it just because. |
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Post by Ikkin on Sept 18, 2007 10:14:52 GMT -5
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Post by PFA on Sept 18, 2007 16:58:35 GMT -5
*shrug* Could be PSP. PSP graphics must be pretty good if you can watch movies on your PSP, right?  And that looks squee. ...And I'm once again reminded that I still have to beat that one guy in KH2. >_> Maybe I'll try that again later today. |
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Post by Ikkin on Sept 18, 2007 20:22:14 GMT -5
*shrug* Could be PSP. PSP graphics must be pretty good if you can watch movies on your PSP, right? And that looks squee. ...And I'm once again reminded that I still have to beat that one guy in KH2. >_> Maybe I'll try that again later today. Heh, I went and looked at Crisis Core screenshots for a comparison. It really is PS2-quality, with surprisingly smooth curved edges. xD DS, on the other hand, looks rather PS1ish (using Final Fantasy 3's remake here), so... they're probably PSP screens, I guess. XD Good luck... ^_^ EDIT: Even more pics. ^^ Again, got it from KH Insider. |
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Post by Ikkin on Sept 19, 2007 22:31:40 GMT -5
Double-posting, because this stuff is interesting....it's also not really well-formatted, but... >>;;; Picture from TGS, of the KH exhibit. Ven looks... way too much like Roxas. xD It's from KH-vids.net. KH-Vids also has this to say about the rumors coming from Tokyo Game Show: KHInsider.com corroborates this information, through 1up.com: Mobile phone games makes Ikkin a sad kitsune. DDDD= (...and, how the heck can a mobile phones possibly deal with graphics like in that screenshot? o___o) Four-player Organization XIII play sounds like... woah. Does that mean I'd get the option to actually play as Axel? =D Though... I do wonder how the four-playerness will actually work. On the other hand... if the Roxas-and-Axel screenshot is DS... I'm impressed. xD I'm surprised we're getting the Birth By Sleep story already. I'd figured that particular story would be told in the next series game, due to some of the comments that were made about needing "next-generation hardware" to tell the story of the Keyblade War. But, it's still really pretty and I'm not about to complain about finding out what's going on there earlier. xD They've got translations from the scans, as well: It should be noted that the (*) Near the text means they were translated to the best of Mirai's ability but may not be 100% Accurate, but still very accurate.
Right side of the screenshot of Mickey and Sora.
"Words of concern come from the King."
Right side of Sora, Donald and Goofy.
"The brave heroes of the Kingdom Hearts series. To protect the peace of the worlds, they jouney to the Disney worlds."
Top center.
"*V-Jump gets the new game's picture fastest!!"
Left side of picture of the Organization.
"*The ones that retreat are the mavericks of the XIII Order, Roxas and Axel."
Text near Roxas.
"In the last game, Kingdom hearts II's story, the most important character (referring to Roxas, I suppose)."
Text near Axel.
"*The main mystery clothed in a black coat, a XIII Order member. Sora's enemy."
Bottom banner.
The start of the new Kingdom Hearts project!!"
In the screenshot with Mickey and Sora, Mickey is saying "I was there on that day, too."
On the scene with the XIII Order, it says "The one chosen by the Keyblade."
Top.
"The extremely popular series, Kingdom hearts's new game project is several beginnings!! (man, the Japanese like the double exclamation points, don't they!!)"
First crown.
"Several projects being developed!! As V Jump gets more info, it looks like it's more than one title...!!"
Second crown.
"The last games were for PS2 and GBA. The new games are also on several consoles!!"
Third crown.
"It is the story that reveals the secrets!! The new title's are not all remakes! They are all new stories!!" Blue box with pirate.
"Several titles are in the middle of development!! The new KH games will be released!! What on Earth is the title, and, when will it be released?!!"
Text pointing to the Mickey and Sora screen.
"Sora and the King's clothes from KHCOM are the same. When will the talked about story in the new production be revealed?"
Text by Sora.
"The hero, Sora. The chosen hero who must protect the worlds' peace. Through the series, this cheerful boy is the hero."
Subtitle in the Terra and Geezernort (*snicker*old man) scene.
"I believe you/I/he were/was struggling."
Subtitle in the Mickey and Jiminy scene.
*All I know is that it says something about the letter. Dang kanji*
Text pointing to the Organization XIII scene.
"This room is Sora's enemy, Organization XIII's stronghold. **But, in the new game, it looks like the Organization's entry surface is full!!"
Subtitle in the Roxas scene.
"*I don't know the first part*, there's the dream I had..."
Big text next on the Terra scene.
"An unknown character!! Who is he?"
Subtitle in Terra scene.
"What did you do to his heart?!!"
Text under the big Micky pic.
"Disney Castle's king. He is watching Sora's journey from the shadows!!"
KHU's Translation of the Dialouge
- Organization XIII Meeting: "The Keyblade's chosen one..."
- Bald Man: "I believed you would arrive..."
- Terra: "What have you done to his/her heart!"
- Roxas: "He said he'd seen me before."
- Mickey (with Sora): "On that day, I was here too."
- Mickey (with Jiminy Cricket): "A passage one cannot remember..."
As you know, some lines are completely different from the translations we had, but also know that Kanji can be interpreted in different ways as well. KHInsider also has a translation that seems to differ in certain parts.KH-vids.net seem to have trailer descriptions from TGS: It starts by showing scenes of the ending of "Kingdom Hearts 1" Soon the text "Deep Past" comes up, to be followed by "Shut-Eyes gives birth to the concealed fate"
The trailer starts off with the boy who looks like Roxas, Ven, talking to a young male with black hair, the area seeming to be like "Hollow Bastion". The boy soon calls the young male "Ven." The scene continuously changes before showing the Old man that is seen in the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Secret Ending.
The old man's name is "Master Xehanort" and "Master Xehanort" calls the young boy "Terra". Soon Terra summons the keyblade into his hand.
Soon some worlds are shown, such as "Olympus Coliseum" and a new world, which resembles that of Sleeping Beauty is shown, confirming it's existence.
The scene then changes to Terra fighting against the mysterious dark male, who looks like he's in a bicycle suit, also from the secret ending. Terra manages to knock off the helmet, but his face isn't shown.
The scene soon moves to King Mickey summoning his Keyblade. Soon the scene begins to change rapidly, and Terra is at a beach, watching two boys playing before resting his sword into the grove. The two boys soon begin to become more visible, and it looks like Sora and Riku playing at the beach.
Terra soon says "Please don't depend on me, just erase me...friend"
Afterwards the text "Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep" comes up, this game is for the PSP The trailer starts from the scene where re:COM ended, afterwards the words "The other side attached to Sora still sleeps" and "The mind comes back whenever they touch." The scene then moves to Twilight Town, where Roxas, and Axel are sitting on the edge, as seen in KH2FM+.
Soon the trailer switches to Roxas being invited to the Organization XIII, and introduced to them, which soon cuts out to another scene of Roxas joining the Organization for the first time. Soon the scene then switches to the King talking about Axel, and Saix with Roxas pulling out his keyblade, moving into gameplay.
The gameplay features Roxas fighting with other Organization Members in a multiplayer game. This one confirms the allowance of being able to play as Roxas, Axel, Saix and Xigbar.
The scene then switches to Xemnas talking towards other Organization members. Xemnas explains that a 14th member has joined the Organization, and the 14th member appears to be a female, wearing a black hood. Soon the title comes up as "Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days"
You can then hear Roxas in the background saying "I will disappear from this world in 151 days"
At the beginning of the video, waves of images pop up, with the text "KINGDOM HEARTS NEW CONSEPTS(Concept?) NEW TITLES" showing that the Kingdom Hearts New Project was finally announced.
The first thing that was shown, was the ending of Kingdom Hearts II, afterwards the text "The secret ending is solved, and the worlds still extend" Is shown, and then the words "Flow" is shown.
The video then officially begins with Jiminy Cricket looking at his journal, the words "Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories" pop-up. He then notices something he did not right in his journal "You need to return, to heal the wounds" Jiminy Cricket then rushes to report to King Mickey. Mickey who is startled by this only replies with "Only he is the one who can solve it." The scene soon changes to Sora standing in Destiny Islands, in Kingdom Hearts 1. However Sora only appears in the form of computer data that is being transmitted.
After the image, the game soon changes to a battle scene. Heartless are attacking, and the gameplay mechanic seems odd, as Sora appears to be moving pies of blocks making it a puzzle game in a sense. Soon the command "Debugging" comes up. When this command is clicked, Sora moves at high speed, and vanishes as well. The scene soon changes to Sora being in Traverse Town with Mickey (As seen in the latest scans) With Mickey saying "I was here on that day." and then "Let's speak truly"
Afterwards the text "Kingdom Hearts Coded" comes up, this is a game for hte cellphone. ...I don't even know what to say about this stuff anymore. o____o |
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Post by Elcie on Sept 20, 2007 7:56:57 GMT -5
Terra?
;_____; Because he's the only person I can think of who looks remotely like Zack.
DANG it, now I'm gonna have to buy a PSP. >_> Time for Elcie to give up and get a job D:
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Post by Ikkin on Sept 20, 2007 15:54:09 GMT -5
Terra?;_____; Because he's the only person I can think of who looks remotely like Zack. DANG it, now I'm gonna have to buy a PSP. >_> Time for Elcie to give up and get a job D: Yeah, it's Terra. ^^; I think some of the KH fansites had people there who confirmed that. Might have been in Square's KH PDF, as well, though the translation of that seems to have poofed. D= EDIT: 1up.com's description of the trailer has a few interesting bits that weren't mentioned in the other description - Despite the focus on the "bad guys," such as they are, 358/2 Days still seems to have its share of Disney elements -- King Mickey puts in an appearance in a gloomy forest, where he's confronted by someone in dark robes. Although the robed man's face is never shown, he lowers his hood, which causes Mickey to draw his Keyblade. Much of Organization XIII's stark white headquarters is shown as well, including a scene of tension where a new character -- apparently a young girl, though her face is never revealed -- is introduced, to Sora's dismay. 1up.com might have no idea what's going on (or, earlier in the article, what the title could mean), but... it seems pretty clear to me. xD The dark-robed person with King Mickey is almost certain to be Riku, showing up for the first time after he turns into Ansem-form. Considering that they say that the new character is "a young girl," the "14th member" of the Organization mentioned in the other trailer descriptions probably is... Namine. xD Wonder why she got demoted...  Of course, it could be someone else, but... who knows? I'm assuming that they mean "Roxas' dismay" and not Sora's, but if it was Namine, some kind of reaction like that would make sense ("...I've never seen her before and can't remember anything, so why is she so familiar?"). As for the title... my bet is, it's told as the past, with Roxas remembering all of his time with the Organization (358 days, or a year minus the week he was in the simulation) over the course of two days. Maybe Riku's there too, and the part with Mickey and the-one-I-bet-is-Ansem!Riku is from his perspective? In any case... this sounds like it's going to be awesome. =D One-player Roxas backstory with Axel-Roxas friendship in the foreground (...it's from the disappeared Squeenix PDF translations D= ), and multiplayer Organization play with Axel being playable. And it's supposed to look pretty nice, too, from what the game sites have been saying. |
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Post by Elcie on Sept 20, 2007 17:58:10 GMT -5
Terra?;_____; Because he's the only person I can think of who looks remotely like Zack. DANG it, now I'm gonna have to buy a PSP. >_> Time for Elcie to give up and get a job D: Yeah, it's Terra. ^^; I think some of the KH fansites had people there who confirmed that. Might have been in Square's KH PDF, as well, though the translation of that seems to have poofed. D= D: I love Terra. I can't possibly pass up on a game starring him. AND IT'S ON THE PSP *angst angst* |
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Of course, it could be someone else, but... who knows? I'm assuming that they mean "Roxas' dismay" and not Sora's, but if it was Namine, some kind of reaction like that would make sense ("...I've never seen her before and can't remember anything, so why is she so familiar?").