Opening up Guild-Making

[Sock]

elycien said:

I'm of course joining the mage guild... ^_^

But what do people think about an anthro guild? There should be enough people on the NTWF with animal attributes... Hm, I don't know ^_^

The problem is, most people wanting to join the anthro guild wouldn't actually be anthro. Like having animal ears, etc...that's not anthro. A true anthro is an animal with human attributes (sounds weird, but it's true). So there probably wouldn't be enough people for a true anthro guild.

[phoenixblessed]

sockmonk said:

elycien said:

I'm of course joining the mage guild... ^_^

But what do people think about an anthro guild? There should be enough people on the NTWF with animal attributes... Hm, I don't know ^_^

The problem is, most people wanting to join the anthro guild wouldn't actually be anthro. Like having animal ears, etc...that's not anthro. A true anthro is an animal with human attributes (sounds weird, but it's true). So there probably wouldn't be enough people for a true anthro guild.

Since when do we go by actual definations?
I'm sure that having an anthro guild would be fine, even if the people only had animal ears/kitsunes/etc.

[Sock]

phoenixblessed said:

sockmonk said:

The problem is, most people wanting to join the anthro guild wouldn't actually be anthro. Like having animal ears, etc...that's not anthro. A true anthro is an animal with human attributes (sounds weird, but it's true). So there probably wouldn't be enough people for a true anthro guild.

Since when do we go by actual definations? ;)
I'm sure that having an anthro guild would be fine, even if the people only had animal ears/kitsunes/etc.

I don't know, I only think of anthro as true anthro. If someone had an anthro guild like that, I wouldn't join, despite my persona being a (real) anthro.

That's just me though. Don't make it affect your decision!

[Komori]

I agree with Sockie. When I think anthro, I think old-school saturday cartoons like Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, Tailspin... not anime 'catbois.' ... Ugh. Gag me with a spoon.

[Tracy]

--Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena.--

Couldn't you make an Anthro and Furry guild or something? *shrug*

[Sock]

tracypaper12 said:

--Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena.--

Couldn't you make an Anthro and Furry guild or something? *shrug*

I think the furry and anthro guild should be seperated from the anime catboi guild or whatever you want to call it. Maybe I'm being stuck-up as an anthro artist myself, but I think I, and many other people would agree, these two things are very different.

Anthro and furry are the same thing, unless I misunderstood what you said. :P

I don't want to start a fight or anything. I think I will make my own Furry & Furry Appreciators (for true furres myself) guild myself, once I rally up enough people, and leave this petty argument at that.

[Elcie]

sockmonk said:

tracypaper12 said:

--Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena.--

Couldn't you make an Anthro and Furry guild or something? *shrug*

I think the furry and anthro guild should be seperated from the anime catboi guild or whatever you want to call it. Maybe I'm being stuck-up as an anthro artist myself, but I think I, and many other people would agree, these two things are very different.

Anthro and furry are the same thing, unless I misunderstood what you said. :P

I don't want to start a fight or anything. I think I will make my own Furry & Furry Appreciators (for true furres myself) guild myself, once I rally up enough people, and leave this petty argument at that.

No, not exactly. As I said - I've always seen anthro as being any sort of animal/human mixture (not in a dirty way xD) but you know what I mean. There are various degrees of anthro-ness, as I've always seen it:

--Real animals which walk on all fours and have fur, but still have human thoughts/emotions and are drawn with some degree of human expression. They might not walk two-legged, but they still have human attributes. Example: the characters of the Faux Pas webcomic, and "normal" Neopets.
--Animals which walk on two legs and may have clothing. These are typical furries. Example: Redwall characters.
--Animals which have mostly-human anatomy and clothing. These are also typical furries. They may or may not have humanish hair, besides their fur. Example: DMFA characters and most Neopian plot characters (e.g. Kanrik, Nabile, etc).
--Humanoids with some degree of animal qualities. They are never called furries (because of the lack of fur) but are often called anthros. Example: the kitsunes, the phoenix-blessed, cat-people... stuff like that.

Although the final category is, technically, not in the original "anthropomorphic" definition, the popular definition of "anthro" has been expanded to include it, since there's nothing else you can call them, really. Also, on the NTWF many of those people have the ability to transform into a full-animal form, which is also included in the "anthro" category technically.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not a catgirl, I'm a Thirecat; technically the Thirecats are "people" (Railin) but because of their heritage, you can't ignore the fact that they have significant animal attributes. Also, they have the power of transformation into more furre-like forms. I do rather consider my persona "anthro" because of that, and if you'll excuse me saying so, if I was disallowed from joining an anthro guild just because my usual form doesn't have fur... I'd be pretty darn ticked off. ^^; So... yeah. Besides which, I don't see a point for having a furre guild separated from an anthro (or "animal attributes") guild... there just wouldn't be enough people who fall into the furre category, methinks.

So if you don't consider them real anthro, that's fine - but I still think they should be allowed to join the anthro guild. Heh, I'd say split the guild, but ya can't have sub-sub-boards. (Yes, I have tried. XD) If you just want to have a gathering of furres, a club might be easier to set up. *shrug* Just my two cents, though. If we decide to set up an "all-anthro" guild and you want to have a furre guild, too, I think you should try. ^^

[Sock]

elycien said:

sockmonk said:

I think the furry and anthro guild should be seperated from the anime catboi guild or whatever you want to call it. Maybe I'm being stuck-up as an anthro artist myself, but I think I, and many other people would agree, these two things are very different.

Anthro and furry are the same thing, unless I misunderstood what you said. :P

I don't want to start a fight or anything. I think I will make my own Furry & Furry Appreciators (for true furres myself) guild myself, once I rally up enough people, and leave this petty argument at that.

No, not exactly. As I said - I've always seen anthro as being any sort of animal/human mixture (not in a dirty way xD) but you know what I mean. There are various degrees of anthro-ness, as I've always seen it:

--Real animals which walk on all fours and have fur, but still have human thoughts/emotions and are drawn with some degree of human expression. They might not walk two-legged, but they still have human attributes. Example: the characters of the Faux Pas webcomic, and "normal" Neopets.
--Animals which walk on two legs and may have clothing. These are typical furries. Example: Redwall characters.
--Animals which have mostly-human anatomy and clothing. These are also typical furries. They may or may not have humanish hair, besides their fur. Example: DMFA characters and most Neopian plot characters (e.g. Kanrik, Nabile, etc).
--Humanoids with some degree of animal qualities. They are never called furries (because of the lack of fur) but are often called anthros. Example: the kitsunes, the phoenix-blessed, cat-people... stuff like that.

Although the final category is, technically, not in the original "anthropomorphic" definition, the popular definition of "anthro" has been expanded to include it, since there's nothing else you can call them, really. Also, on the NTWF many of those people have the ability to transform into a full-animal form, which is also included in the "anthro" category technically.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not a catgirl, I'm a Thirecat; technically the Thirecats are "people" (Railin) but because of their heritage, you can't ignore the fact that they have significant animal attributes. Also, they have the power of transformation into more furre-like forms. I do rather consider my persona "anthro" because of that, and if you'll excuse me saying so, if I was disallowed from joining an anthro guild just because my usual form doesn't have fur... I'd be pretty darn ticked off. ^^; So... yeah. Besides which, I don't see a point for having a furre guild separated from an anthro (or "animal attributes") guild... there just wouldn't be enough people who fall into the furre category, methinks.

So if you don't consider them real anthro, that's fine - but I still think they should be allowed to join the anthro guild. Heh, I'd say split the guild, but ya can't have sub-sub-boards. (Yes, I have tried. XD) If you just want to have a gathering of furres, a club might be easier to set up. *shrug* Just my two cents, though. If we decide to set up an "all-anthro" guild and you want to have a furre guild, too, I think you should try. ^^

I applaud you for your long post and stating of your beliefs, and I have come to a conclusion. Maybe we could have both an "all-anthro" guild as well as a furry guild, and the two could be affiliated in a sense. I have no qualms with you if you want to make an all-anthro guild or what have you, but as long as you are willing to cooperate with me having a furry guild (once I find enough people) and not be rude about it (which I'm sure you wouldn't), I do not care, and I applaud you for even wanting to make a guild.

[Elcie]

sockmonk said:

I applaud you for your long post and stating of your beliefs, and I have come to a conclusion. Maybe we could have both an "all-anthro" guild as well as a furry guild, and the two could be affiliated in a sense. I have no qualms with you if you want to make an all-anthro guild or what have you, but as long as you are willing to cooperate with me having a furry guild (once I find enough people) and not be rude about it (which I'm sure you wouldn't), I do not care, and I applaud you for even wanting to make a guild.

Yep, I think that might be the best thing ^^ Like... maybe they'd have the same password or something, and even if they were separate sub-boards they'd be "linked"? *shrug*

[Fj0rd]

sockmonk said:

elycien said:

No, not exactly. As I said - I've always seen anthro as being any sort of animal/human mixture (not in a dirty way xD) but you know what I mean. There are various degrees of anthro-ness, as I've always seen it:

--Real animals which walk on all fours and have fur, but still have human thoughts/emotions and are drawn with some degree of human expression. They might not walk two-legged, but they still have human attributes. Example: the characters of the Faux Pas webcomic, and "normal" Neopets.
--Animals which walk on two legs and may have clothing. These are typical furries. Example: Redwall characters.
--Animals which have mostly-human anatomy and clothing. These are also typical furries. They may or may not have humanish hair, besides their fur. Example: DMFA characters and most Neopian plot characters (e.g. Kanrik, Nabile, etc).
--Humanoids with some degree of animal qualities. They are never called furries (because of the lack of fur) but are often called anthros. Example: the kitsunes, the phoenix-blessed, cat-people... stuff like that.

Although the final category is, technically, not in the original "anthropomorphic" definition, the popular definition of "anthro" has been expanded to include it, since there's nothing else you can call them, really. Also, on the NTWF many of those people have the ability to transform into a full-animal form, which is also included in the "anthro" category technically.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not a catgirl, I'm a Thirecat; technically the Thirecats are "people" (Railin) but because of their heritage, you can't ignore the fact that they have significant animal attributes. Also, they have the power of transformation into more furre-like forms. I do rather consider my persona "anthro" because of that, and if you'll excuse me saying so, if I was disallowed from joining an anthro guild just because my usual form doesn't have fur... I'd be pretty darn ticked off. ^^; So... yeah. Besides which, I don't see a point for having a furre guild separated from an anthro (or "animal attributes") guild... there just wouldn't be enough people who fall into the furre category, methinks.

So if you don't consider them real anthro, that's fine - but I still think they should be allowed to join the anthro guild. Heh, I'd say split the guild, but ya can't have sub-sub-boards. (Yes, I have tried. XD) If you just want to have a gathering of furres, a club might be easier to set up. *shrug* Just my two cents, though. If we decide to set up an "all-anthro" guild and you want to have a furre guild, too, I think you should try. ^^

I applaud you for your long post and stating of your beliefs, and I have come to a conclusion. Maybe we could have both an "all-anthro" guild as well as a furry guild, and the two could be affiliated in a sense. I have no qualms with you if you want to make an all-anthro guild or what have you, but as long as you are willing to cooperate with me having a furry guild (once I find enough people) and not be rude about it (which I'm sure you wouldn't), I do not care, and I applaud you for even wanting to make a guild.

Mmm, the problem with two different guilds, though, might be that there are some "furries" who also would want to be in the all-anthro guild-- as well as being, say, a ninja and a mage, just an example here. And a forumer can only be in three guilds at the same time. =/ Unless there'd be an exception for them, I'm not sure how well two separate guilds for the same general area of people (those who have some sort of animal attributes) would work out.

[Komori]

Why don't you make them the same guild, but have two separate RP threads?

Of course, then you could have a Neo anthro RP, an anime/kitsune/catboi RP, a furre RP, a everybodys-a-wolf RP, and a furs without fantasy/magic-y-ness RP.

And then we can have inner-guild debates on the definition of Anthro that will last nearly as long as the Pirates v Ninja thread!! ;D

[Strife]

I've been thinking about this all day today... Leoness thinks it's a great idea as well.

We could possibly make a guild dedicated to the NTWF Game that i've been working on over the past few months. It would allow me to create different topics for each of the game's elements, rather than clustering everything together in a single topic. I could create one topic for posting concept art, another topic for screenshots, another topic for character requests, and so on.

If enough people support this idea, it would make things go much more smoothly since different aspects of the game's development would be better organized and arranged. ^^ I would want the guild to be open to everyone (not password protected), and I have several ideas for a mod sponsor as well. Thoughts?

[costaricangirl]

Okay this is totally random, but what if we had a mer-people guild? Would there be enough to make it thrive? LOL, just an idea... I would gladly join a mer-people guild. xD

[Draco]

strife said:

I've been thinking about this all day today... Leoness thinks it's a great idea as well.

We could possibly make a guild dedicated to the NTWF Game that i've been working on over the past few months. It would allow me to create different topics for each of the game's elements, rather than clustering everything together in a single topic. I could create one topic for posting concept art, another topic for screenshots, another topic for character requests, and so on.

If enough people support this idea, it would make things go much more smoothly since different aspects of the game's development would be better organized and arranged. ^^ I would want the guild to be open to everyone (not password protected), and I have several ideas for a mod sponsor as well. Thoughts?

So basically a open guild for people to walk into on their own and such. I like the idea of a guild for the game to.

[Deleted]

strife said:

I've been thinking about this all day today... Leoness thinks it's a great idea as well.

We could possibly make a guild dedicated to the NTWF Game that i've been working on over the past few months. It would allow me to create different topics for each of the game's elements, rather than clustering everything together in a single topic. I could create one topic for posting concept art, another topic for screenshots, another topic for character requests, and so on.

If enough people support this idea, it would make things go much more smoothly since different aspects of the game's development would be better organized and arranged. ^^ I would want the guild to be open to everyone (not password protected), and I have several ideas for a mod sponsor as well. Thoughts?

I would definitly join..... but you already knew that <_<

I think it's a good idea to have a guild for a game like that. Makes the process (and fandom) much more structured, and it'll be easier for you and others to look up the info they need.

Good call, Strife ^^