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Post by irishdragonlord on Sept 12, 2004 10:19:20 GMT -5
Heck, why not take this one out of the hat?
Sure, in the US and many other countries it's not legal, in some it is. I get the sad feeling that it may soon be brought into the US in a decade or so, so why not start the debate now?
So, your ideas on people with multiple spouses.
Personally, I am against it. It keeps one from having an intimate relationship with a single spouse, and since every case I've heard of was men with multiple wives, it doesn't seem to me there's a lot of respect nor equality, as I certainly wish to have when I get married.
My biggest issue is on the emotional level, which is, unless you grab at the straw it can raise the risk of AIDS, pretty much the only issue. Of course, on many levels, emotional trumps physical.
So, what do you all say?
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Post by Torey on Sept 12, 2004 16:15:55 GMT -5
I'm against it. Marriage is when two people commit themselves to each other, to love each other. If a person has mulitple spouses then that ruins the whole concept of marriage.
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Post by ghostision on Sept 12, 2004 18:03:32 GMT -5
Where I live, it's illegal, but it happens, and the law enforcement tends to look the other way, for several reasons I can't remember, but they are legitimate ones. I disapprove, for all the reasons already stated, and I hope that it'll never become legal here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2004 18:44:29 GMT -5
I dont see how AIDs is a problem. If all involved are clean (as in safe from AIDs) and only involved with eachother, then theres no risk.
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Post by Crystal on Sept 12, 2004 21:11:24 GMT -5
Polygamy is legal here for Malays, (5 wives I believe) as long as they get the permission of their spouse (although most usually don't marry more than one).
As for how I feel about the matter... if my husband ever married more than one girl I'd slap him. ANd then I'd file for divorce.
'Nuff said.
Did you know that if girls marry more than one husband, it's called 'polyandri'? I think that's how you spell it anyway.
Mmm, marrying Kass, Jeran, Darrier AND Tiriyvus at the same time. ^_______^
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Post by mushroom on Sept 12, 2004 23:15:45 GMT -5
Did you know that if girls marry more than one husband, it's called 'polyandri'? I think that's how you spell it anyway. Polygyny is when a male has more than one wife. Polygamy is a broader term that refers to them both. (It's spelled "polyandry," by the way I wonder if there's a word for several people of both genders--say three men and three women--in a plural marriage all together? Or several men (or several women) in a homosexual polygamous marriage? I'm not opposed to polygamy--if all the people involved are fine with it, I don't have any reason to object, although I would never want to be part of one. It also seems like religious discrimination to accept only the general Christian sort of marriage, and not the Mormon or Islamic versions. (Also, don't forget about the polygamy in the Bible--Jacob, Rachel, and Leah; King What's-his-name, maybe Solomon, with his thousand wives; and no doubt others I don't remember. Unless I've missed it, the New Testament never condemned polygamy.) It does lead to some odd problems, though--what if you had several spouses, and one of your spouses had several spouses too? Would you have step-spouses?
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Post by ghostision on Sept 12, 2004 23:38:58 GMT -5
It also seems like religious discrimination to accept only the general Christian sort of marriage, and not the Mormon or Islamic versions. Erm, could you not refer to that as the mormon version of marriage? Since that's highly innacurate, since the church has long renounced that. If you're polygamist now, they're going to excommunicate you.
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Post by Crystal on Sept 13, 2004 0:29:05 GMT -5
Polygyny is when a male has more than one wife. Polygamy is a broader term that refers to them both. (It's spelled "polyandry," by the way I wonder if there's a word for several people of both genders--say three men and three women--in a plural marriage all together? Or several men (or several women) in a homosexual polygamous marriage? I'm not opposed to polygamy--if all the people involved are fine with it, I don't have any reason to object, although I would never want to be part of one. It also seems like religious discrimination to accept only the general Christian sort of marriage, and not the Mormon or Islamic versions. (Also, don't forget about the polygamy in the Bible--Jacob, Rachel, and Leah; King What's-his-name, maybe Solomon, with his thousand wives; and no doubt others I don't remember. Unless I've missed it, the New Testament never condemned polygamy.) It does lead to some odd problems, though--what if you had several spouses, and one of your spouses had several spouses too? Would you have step-spouses? Oops, sorry. My mistake there. ^^; I believe there's a verse about the one-man-one-woman marriage somewhere in the New Testament, but I don't have my Bible now, I'm in school.
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Post by Shadyy on Sept 13, 2004 10:41:35 GMT -5
Well.. you could see it as a sort of legalized cheating. how many pretty, picture families really exist?
Really, many people cheat on eachother whether they're married or not (in some countries marriage has become less important because people don't believe in it anymore or don't need it to love eachother.)
I belive the human creature is not a monogamous creature, fully taht is simply impossible. It all depends if you ever encounter someone else who offers temptation, if you stay in your house all day there won't be much of a chance...
I don't really defend it, because it's awfull for the other person, yet again it's a sort of freedom too.
It's also a diffrence of culture, in the countries you can actually have 5,6 wives; but I don't think polygamy can only been seen from the point of marriage.
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Post by aakfish on Sept 13, 2004 15:14:30 GMT -5
It depends on religion or culture. I have no problem with it if it is the persons religion/culture. It's different if the person has a Western marriage or a religious marriage that bans it.
I can't see how AIDS could be a factor, people should have safe sex if they have no proof that their partner(s) have no STDs.
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Post by KittyKadaveral on Sept 15, 2004 7:04:08 GMT -5
I had enough with having only one boyfriend I think I'd go insane having five men around the house all together. Think of that as a super bowl party that never ends! No thank you! I suppose if it's something that's agreed upon by both parties and the others involved, then great, otherwise you're going to end up with an episode of Jerry Springer. You are right about the monogamy part. No creature is truly monogamous. They even stated that the words 'mate for life' is sort of misleading. Yes, those two might be the only ones together all the time, but that doesn't mean that some hanky-panky doesn't go on in the mean time. I myself haven't subject to any cheating when I was with my now exboyfriend, but given the chance that temptation is always there. I found myself liking certain guys at work simply because they had the personality traits that my man did not have. Don't get me wrong, my ex was a great guy, but his lack of interest in anything other than sports was a bit trying at times especially since I like just about everything to go and do out there like travel and horseback riding. Hmmm..maybe that's what would make more than one husband or wife work out. You love this one for their mind but that one for their fun and that one for thier body
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2004 7:24:09 GMT -5
Wow... Kitty, you got me thinking further.
Personally, I don't like Polygamy. And I wouldn't have it.
As stated above me, if both parties are okay, then that might be okay. But I think that the fact that there are two people in a relationshop really gives it room and time to grow and be intimate and stuff. If there are multiple people, the spouse may just switch.. err... the other spouse(?) whenever he gets tired of one and problems wouldn't be solved.
And it won't be normal. People would probably stare at the poor kid. I can just imagine this..
Hey there! Is that one to your dad's left your mom, or the right one or the one in the middle or the one that sits on his shoulders?"
Okay. Shoot me. That was totally lame, but it would cause a bunch of confusion. *tries very hard not to laugh*
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Post by KittyKadaveral on Sept 15, 2004 7:44:26 GMT -5
And it won't be normal. People would probably stare at the poor kid. I can just imagine this.. Hey there! Is that one to your dad's left your mom, or the right one or the one in the middle or the one that sits on his shoulders?"Okay. Shoot me. That was totally lame, but it would cause a bunch of confusion. *tries very hard not to laugh* tee hee I like that actually. For me personally I wouldn't do it, but now after going through relationships that turned bleh because of things HE did and more so recent with my now ex of whom I truly loved more than anyone ever and felt I'd be with forever, I'm not for marriage and relationships anymore. I'm seeing now that I'm truly happy being by myself because I don't have to worry about making someone annoyed because I HAVE to watch Pokemon every chance I get or play Neopets Like I said one drives you crazy enough, imagine four more
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Post by Kat on Sept 18, 2004 18:41:17 GMT -5
Nope, I'm against it. Where I live, it's discouraged and prohibited (I think). You see, marriage is for a man and a WOMAN, NOT WOMEN to join together and have children. It gives the man a hard time being faithful to all his wives and can result in a lot of work for him. Arguments can ensue, and it's quite hard to agree on anything, since there are so many people debating and with different opinions and views. It's chaotic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2004 23:22:12 GMT -5
Truthfully, I don't even understand the point of marriage.
Sure, it's a vow that you'll forever cherish your loved one. But that vow is often broken.
So, in the U.S., the only logical reason for marriage is the tax breaks that come with it.
I think the government should butt out of marriage. Laissez faire!
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