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Post by June Scarlet on Feb 2, 2022 14:32:01 GMT -5
Poll results!
There is a tie! I will make a tiebreaker poll right now, and have it open for three days. Get your votes in!
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Post by Liou on Feb 6, 2022 5:25:31 GMT -5
Um. *points at poll* Hey um. Is the tie-breaker, um. Tied??
Folks, what happened?
Last I checked, it was way skewed for Holidays? (Folks, the pranks are supposed to be in April!)
Um. Is there time for. Another tie-breaker? Coin toss? Heck, asking the editors to break the tie?
(I haven't mentioned asking around the actual Neoboards or neomail network because a) takes even more time - b) April Fools is a more discreet collab and it's better not to distract from the Great Collabs, which currently take longer to plan and advertise, anyway)
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Post by Rasaiu on Feb 6, 2022 8:48:34 GMT -5
The poll has gone bananas. I guess we should have all the themes at the same time.
Ha ha, it's hilarious! :D
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Post by Carolyn on Feb 6, 2022 10:09:46 GMT -5
Oh. Oh dear.
I opened up the poll for another 2 days or so. Ping me/tag me when you'd like it closed?
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Post by June Scarlet on Feb 6, 2022 12:18:49 GMT -5
Thank you for opening up the poll for another two days, Carolyn. Get your vote in, everyone!
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Post by Liou on Feb 9, 2022 4:34:51 GMT -5
Oh. Oh dear. I opened up the poll for another 2 days or so. Ping me/tag me when you'd like it closed? It has been two days, I think there's enough of a difference and there's been well enough time that no last minute voters would flip the outcome, I say we're good to go!
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Post by Carolyn on Feb 9, 2022 6:34:14 GMT -5
Poll has been locked!
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Post by June Scarlet on Feb 9, 2022 17:50:35 GMT -5
Okay, the theme for this year is "Every Holiday at Once."
I would like to brainstorm a premise (or more than one?) for this. Like, why is every holiday at once? And do we want every submission to have the same why or not?
As for Bananas... I will make a note of it for next year. I don't want to say for sure we'll do it next year, because something more topical might come up in that time, but as things stand, I think it's a good chance it'll happen still.
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Post by Allison on Feb 9, 2022 22:33:18 GMT -5
So.... Question. I STILL have my "12 days of Giving" story (a parody of the 12 days of Christmas) that was accepted but never actually published back in 2017 (I just looked. Wow. That was... awhile ago). Now, there was recently an editorial article that said that generally parody of the 12 days of Christmas wouldn't be accepted. But mine was a skit/script, with judges commenting on on every verse. So I feel that maybe it's different enough?? I also know it would need some updating, because at least one part was (somewhat) time sensitive. Do I dare edit this and submit for the April Fools edition, with an explanation?? My trophy count went up, so that's why I still feel it might need an explanation after all this time, so I don't get credit twice for the same entry. Of course, at this point, maybe I deserve it? Ha!
I've actually submitted it a total of three times. The first was when it was accepted but not published, and I tried too more times, but submitted to late. So go for it, or start from scratch?
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Post by June Scarlet on Feb 9, 2022 23:19:00 GMT -5
Allison Right now, I'd say go for it! Might be cool if you threw a second holiday in there, but we generally say that people can interpret a theme however they want. Or maybe a reference in the piece, like, someone coming in and saying, "Isn't it supposed to be the Altador Cup right now?"
As to whether every piece should have the same explanation as to why every holiday is at once, I think that would be neat, give this theme some cohesion. Because it's a bit of a random hodgepodge already. Though allowing people to have their own explanation would add to the confusion and chaos. As to the why it's happening: Maybe the calendar people had a misprint this year? Or TNT decided to put every holiday at once for budget reasons? Or so they could focus more on Beta conversion (too real, haha)? Or maybe something like both, where there's both a meta reason involving TNT, as well as an in canon explanation involving the world of Neopia.
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Post by Liou on Feb 10, 2022 13:08:16 GMT -5
Pros of having a common explanation for the holiday medley: - more cohesive prank indeed - can be explored in more depth by everyone
Cons of having a common explanation for the holiday medley: - more restrictive as there are plenty of possible explanations - takes more time for us to choose >_>
Possible explanations: - calendar misprint is one of my favourite/oldest examples, like the company printing the calendars just made that mistake, and obviously the logical solution is for everyone to roll with what's on the calendar, of course - a curse that will only lift after a whole year? well, let's live a whole year in a day by going through the entire calendar! (works for Brynnso type adventure characters, plot and original) - Zylphia timey wimey shenanigans! She was visiting holiday times to study them when crack, they all collapsed ¯\(°_o)/¯ - Dr Landelbrot random event messup (eh, this is the Neopia "A Wizard Did It") - Dr Sloth was disappointed by the gifts he got for Sloth Day and wants it to be Sloth Day again so he can get better gifts, so he plans this to speed through the calendar til next Sloth Day. Also works with Jhudora.
This is what I just threw together in a few minutes for fictional explanations, so we sure have options!
How about a combo? A single selected meta reason involving TNT, either for budget and beta conversion, or because they accidentally activated all the code for the holiday events at once! And then, in fiction pieces, people could come up with many more fictional reasons.
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Post by June Scarlet on Feb 10, 2022 14:59:51 GMT -5
I like the idea of a combo Liou, where there's no limits to the in-canon explanations, but they all stem from one thing on TNT's end. Maybe they were messing with he code on new features, converting it to a Beta version, and whoops, all the holidays were released at once!
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Feb 14, 2022 22:49:21 GMT -5
Well, TNT got the ball rolling (unwittingly, of course) for this year's prank, with Lenny Day and Valentine's Day on one newspost.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Feb 20, 2022 21:46:26 GMT -5
Pros of having a common explanation for the holiday medley: - more cohesive prank indeed - can be explored in more depth by everyone Cons of having a common explanation for the holiday medley: - more restrictive as there are plenty of possible explanations - takes more time for us to choose >_> Possible explanations: - calendar misprint is one of my favourite/oldest examples, like the company printing the calendars just made that mistake, and obviously the logical solution is for everyone to roll with what's on the calendar, of course - a curse that will only lift after a whole year? well, let's live a whole year in a day by going through the entire calendar! (works for Brynnso type adventure characters, plot and original) - Zylphia timey wimey shenanigans! She was visiting holiday times to study them when crack, they all collapsed ¯\(°_o)/¯ - Dr Landelbrot random event messup (eh, this is the Neopia "A Wizard Did It") - Dr Sloth was disappointed by the gifts he got for Sloth Day and wants it to be Sloth Day again so he can get better gifts, so he plans this to speed through the calendar til next Sloth Day. Also works with Jhudora. This is what I just threw together in a few minutes for fictional explanations, so we sure have options! How about a combo? A single selected meta reason involving TNT, either for budget and beta conversion, or because they accidentally activated all the code for the holiday events at once! And then, in fiction pieces, people could come up with many more fictional reasons. For something like this, I don't think we need an explanation, mainly because I don't think a singular explanation would be good enough to "justify" this happening. So I say leave it open ended. Just one day everyone woke up and ALL the holidays are happening at once. No explanation, no time to question it, you only got one day to go to Meridell & Brigthvale and trick-or-treat by singing Christmas carols to get a Valentine invite to a Thanksgiving dinner celebrating Tyrannia victory hosted by Fyora, Illusen, Jhudora, and Dr. Sloth!!1! Actually, I think maybe THAT needs to be discussed. What Holidays will we be including, or rather excluding? To note, we do have the official Neopets Calendar to maybe get a base idea from. Looking through it, and excluding Pet Days since every single Neopet species gets one (maybe worth a quick joke about how Threelegs is worried about how he's gonna pay taxes and his employees if he's training every Neopet who can attend his school for free), these are the other notable ones I see: Sloth Appreciation Day Jhudora Day Valentines Gadgadsbogen Cancelled due to lack of interest Illusen Day April Fools (maybe should exclude this for the sake of the joke) Grey Day Tyrannian Victory Day Fyora Day Petpet Appreciation Day Discovery of Meridell Discovery of Brightvale Annual Usuki Doll Convention Mutant Day The Annual Chocolate Ball Faerie Festival Annual Gormball Championships Symol Day Halloween Slorg Day Neopets Birthday Borovan Day Day of Giving (Christmas & other Winter Holidays) New Years Notable real world Holidays (at least observed/known about in the US) I see are Thanksgiving, Chinese New Years, Easter/Passover, Cinco de Mayo, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Independence Day, & Indigenous Peoples Day. And on Neopets there's annual stuff not on the Calendar like Altador Cup and Game Masters Challenge/Daily Dare.
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Post by Twillie on Feb 20, 2022 23:18:09 GMT -5
I think holidays should stick just with what's on the Neopian calendar, as this is all happening in Neopia and not the real world, and anything on the calendar is fair game. I know some Neopets holidays are based off of irl ones, like the Negg Festival and Day of Giving, but even then they still have their own Neopian names and traditions, so even if they resemble irl holidays, they're not exactly the same and don't accidentally carry any real world associations or need to be justified on what they're doing in Neopia (like with Independence Day, I'm not sure how that would exist in Neopia to begin with).
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