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Post by Huntress on Dec 31, 2021 6:35:54 GMT -5
Just the fun thing to get into this fine New Year's Eve not-yet-eve. The cynic in me thinks that they'll dismiss it all with nary a second thought, possibly throwing around words like "brigading" in the aftermath, but comments elsewhere are pointing out that this is most probably a case of "whoops, we somehow managed to fly all the way to this point by the seat of our pants and now have absolutely no idea what we're doing, let's quickly source some ideas to steal without having to pay for them".
This is an interesting mess as well, cos apparently it was only shared on the Metaverse Discord and was clearly never intended to reach us plebeian Neopets vets. In other words, an echo chamber gone wrong. Frankly it's kind of... darkly hilarious how much these people seem to be trying to make New Neopetz in their little faraway corner without involving any of the actual current players. I get that they tried to utilize the retro recognizability of the Neopets brand but with this much active ostracizing of the existing playerbase, it's like they're either attempting to reinvent it for the cool kids or draw in former players who've since gotten into crypto, which in both cases feels like a super narrow target audience to shoot for.
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Post by Liou on Dec 31, 2021 14:12:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads-up! Did my best to word my responses despite the leading-ness of the questions. I put in actual ideas for merch, many, no idea if those will be read after my opinions though.
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Post by Allison on Dec 31, 2021 17:07:38 GMT -5
Okay. I may have had a bit of fun with a couple of the questions... Perhaps its been too long since I did any real creative writing.
Q: Think outside the context of the existing Neopets game, what are your wildest hopes and dreams for the Neopets Metaverse? A: That it get sucked into a giant black hole, never to be seen again. That the meepits have a hey day with it, and attack it with a vengeance (to the point of no return) that has never been seen among meepits.
q. What questions or words of wisdom do you have for the building team? We will keep them in mind. A. Wisdom? Wisdom would have been never starting this thing in the first place. JUST STOP! NOW!
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Post by Liou on Dec 31, 2021 17:22:25 GMT -5
Okay. I may have had a bit of fun with a couple of the questions... Perhaps its been too long since I did any real creative writing.
Q: Think outside the context of the existing Neopets game, what are your wildest hopes and reams for the Neopets Metaverse? A: That it get sucked into a giant black hole, never to be seen again. That the meepits have a hey day with it, and attack it with a vengeance (to the point of no return) that has never been seen among meepits.
q. What questions or words of wisdom do you have for the building team? We will keep them in mind. A. Wisdom? Wisdom would have been never starting this thing in the first place. JUST STOP! NOW!
Well now I wish to hear you do a dramatic reading of all your responses
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Post by Carolyn on Jan 1, 2022 21:52:26 GMT -5
Whoops. I thought this was through the actual TNT folks, so I politely said that they should cut off ties to the NFT company because of their history of bigoted and hate-filled remarks (along with a whoooooole bunch of issues). Didn't realize that was going to their NFT Metaverse staff directly. Bwahaha. Well, I more or less told them to leap into fire with a smile. Yay, me. XD
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Jan 1, 2022 23:44:22 GMT -5
Whoops. I thought this was through the actual TNT folks, so I politely said that they should cut off ties to the NFT company because of their history of bigoted and hate-filled remarks (along with a whoooooole bunch of issues). Didn't realize that was going to their NFT Metaverse staff directly. Bwahaha. Well, I more or less told them to leap into fire with a smile. Yay, me. XD They deserve nothing less (as if they aren't going to throw out the comments from the veteran users). Though that said, I'm morbidly curious what the actual NFT Bros had suggested, especially for partners and what they actual want from the metaverse (that, if it comes true, they're totally not going to abandon within a month or two).
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Post by Herdy on Jan 2, 2022 8:17:50 GMT -5
There's an alternate public channel that has been set up in the discord for NFT users to suggest feedback so you can get a taste of what they have probably been suggesting in the survey too - a selection of suggestions there include an NFT cartoon, breeding NFTs with others to generate more, Lutari Island as a Metaverse exclusive, and most frequently of all that they want the NFTs integrated to the main site. Including via exclusive rewards in plots.
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Post by Carolyn on Jan 2, 2022 8:52:20 GMT -5
Lutari Island as an NFT exclusive and Neopet NFT breeding? Yuck. Same with any integration with the main site. That would be utter nonsense.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Jan 2, 2022 13:25:20 GMT -5
There's an alternate public channel that has been set up in the discord for NFT users to suggest feedback so you can get a taste of what they have probably been suggesting in the survey too - a selection of suggestions there include an NFT cartoon Okay, how would that work? Would it be like a JibJab thing where there's a cartoon but the main character is blank so you can insert a picture of your own character (or in this case, your NFT Neopet)? While if it was for a normal Neopet on the site I could maybe see it working, the problem with the NFT is part of their "rarity" trait is for some reason their emotion. For the normal Neopet it would at least be able to be switched to different emotions, but for half the NFTers their Neopet will be smiling throughout and the other half will be frowning disregarding the situation of the scene. Maybe a cute thing for short e-greetings like JibJab does... BUT being NFTers spent 200-300+ dollars on their NFTs that seems really not worth it (which I guess is the whole point of this exercise, really). LOL! Disregarding that would be breaking one of Neopets rules, do they really think they'll be allowed to create more NFTs without having to pay what they payed originally for them (at least en masse)? [explicit censored of telling them to go away] ... Why? You'll have the Metaverse, essentially it's own site which the main idea was you'd own parts of for each NFT you owned and could do whatever you want on. The main site is meant to be a constructed experience by the owners of the brand (or at least the staff assigned to run the site), at the very least it's the basis for things to be based on and compared to. Integrating NFTs to the main site, which is already experiencing underfunding problems, will only stagger the transition process and the NFTs will likely not do much making their 200-300+ price tag worth it (an no, the higher-ups won't put money into helping it along, any money given (ha!) would strictly be jamming NFTs wherever they could... which means taking time & resources away from transitioning the site and getting new stuff (thus furthering stunting the brand which in theory would impact the NFTs value...)). Jeez, if this is what the NFTers wanted they could have just gotten Premium, 2-3 years is worth less than a single NFT! Ugh, guessing this is the main reason for the integration demand. Well, for one thing, if this VERY BAD IDEA does happen, the rewards would only be for stuff affecting metaverse. If they think they would get exclusive NP or NC items they're dreaming. BUT, because of that, if Metaverse does come to be, they might as well just have a parallel plot/event happening on their which does the same thing. Anything they want from the site integration would only affect the Metaverse therefore they might as well just mirror it on the Metaverse itself and leave the main site alone. That's what the purpose of the Metaverse was supposed to be, right? A Metaverse of the Neopets world you got to explore via RPG style? Dear Fyora, NFTBros are truly that stupid.
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Jan 2, 2022 14:52:04 GMT -5
It goes to show how the people who buy NFTs are severely (and that's an understatement) out of touch with the actual site. It was one of the points that I made when I sent in my response to the survey (although it was a bit more polite).
Of course, the cryptocurrency people will use Neocash as an argument for integrating NFTs into the site. The thing is, it's optional, not required, and usually unrelated to the plot or site event (well, the prizes are somewhat related). Based on past experience with the Metaverse, the NFTs are 'unique', which is an extremely bad idea for integration with the actual site. With Neocash, yes the prizes are exclusive, but NOT unique to each individual. Take the recently ended Stocking Stufftacular. Even if a person buys a single pack, they will receive the same prize for any given day. And don't get me started on the trading aspect for NFTs, we're already seen how much of a disaster that was (along with a point I made earlier).
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Post by Lord Hayati on Jan 2, 2022 20:52:29 GMT -5
at this point, I feel that the NFT people just have so many delusions of grandeur that they don't care about what we say.
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Post by Patjade on Jan 3, 2022 18:34:19 GMT -5
at this point, I feel that the NFT people just have so many delusions of grandeur that they don't care about what we say. That's OK, AS long as it doesn't affect the main site, I'd be happy to consider them the way TNT considers Jelly World...
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Post by Liou on Jan 4, 2022 3:55:27 GMT -5
That's OK, AS long as it doesn't affect the main site, I'd be happy to consider them the way TNT considers Jelly World... This is genius, though. I don't think such a direct parody would work or be advisable or get into anything, so I'm not actually suggesting this for April Fools or anything, but, please consider: Jellycoin.
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Post by Patjade on Jan 4, 2022 9:39:33 GMT -5
Hmmm, as long as Jellyneo doesn't object.
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Post by Carolyn on Jan 4, 2022 19:24:31 GMT -5
Hmmm, as long as Jellyneo doesn't object. I Discord messaged Herdy and he said, So I think it'd be okay?
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