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Post by Killix on Feb 10, 2020 20:15:28 GMT -5
I wonder if their site is getting swamped. xD; It was working for me earlier when I didn't have time to watch any of the clips but now it's at an absolute crawl. Blue Ant Media's site? Yeah, seems like it is seeing significant traffic now. When I searched it up earlier, the site wasn't laggy at all. This collab with Neopets is getting them some attention their site probably wasn't ready for! XD
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Post by mac on Feb 10, 2020 22:55:53 GMT -5
This is the only thing I can find for "Hatching Time". Could not find "Where's My Bed". This whole thing is super weird. The videos on ZooMoo's channels line up with the type of content JumpStart specializes in, and is by extension the content NetDragon purchased JumpStart for. Is Dr. Sloth going to teach us shapes? Live action stuff: vimeo.com/344976688 - Kooki's Crafty Show vimeo.com/310538105 - Teddies vimeo.com/129862107 - ZooMoo's Got Brains
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Feb 10, 2020 23:08:33 GMT -5
In my honest opinion, I think Neo is biting off more than they can chew with this, with various announcements made in the past regarding the future of the site (the site revamp, Neo on mobile, etc). Nonetheless, it is exciting to hear this.
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Post by Huntress on Feb 11, 2020 3:56:20 GMT -5
Mm yeah, the statement itself is exciting and all, but ultimately doesn't tell us anything - an animated TV show can range from the next My Little Pony to incoherent five-minute edutainment webisodes, and a whole lot inbetween. We the nostalgic fossil fanbase would of course love to see it as the next My Little Pony, but the overall chances...?
One of the smartest ways for them to tackle it might be to turn the various plots into standalone animated movies. It wouldn't have to be a long series or with recurring characters (although Faerie's Ruin would make for a pretty good finale with its celeb cast) but if each episode was done well, it could find a solid niche.
...whole lotta ifs here, obviously.
I also have to wonder how sound the decision is from a financial standpoint; animated series are expensive. Some quick digging on the interwebs reveals that one standard cartoon episode costs something like $100k-$500k, upper-end stuff like the Simpsons are in the range of 2-5 million per episode. The aforementioned My Little Pony was $3.5 million for the first season. If they go for uncanny 3D and straight-up slave labor, it can prolly end up a fair bit cheaper, but then we'll get uncanny slave labor 3D. If they have that kind of money to burn then I should like some extra staff and programmers and that totally-released-last-year-we-promise mobile app, plzthx.
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Post by Celestial on Feb 11, 2020 4:19:00 GMT -5
Mmm, yeah, I'm going to remain skeptical about this until I see a trailer. An announcement is all well and good but this is from a relatively unknown company who has not done much like this before, and it's for a property which is not the hottest thing right now. I am hopeful that this will be cool but I am not sure. JumpStart has not exactly been treating the Neopets IP too good lately. And this is assuming it does not run into financial difficulties and get cancelled or just never materialises.
Let's see what happens.
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Post by Killix on Feb 11, 2020 4:19:41 GMT -5
The chosen animation studio is enough of an indication to me that hopes should not be raised too lofty. They're pretty obscure and don't have the most impressive portfolio of animated tv shows under their belt. This might be a very budget project. Like, 1980s AKOM levels of budget.
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Post by doctortomoe on Feb 11, 2020 5:11:16 GMT -5
I just hope it doesn't turn out like the time that the webcomic CTRL-ALT-DEL tried to make an animated web series.
That's not just the floor, that's the basement. Just try to be above that.
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Post by mac on Feb 11, 2020 8:44:46 GMT -5
Something that I find perplexing is Blue Ant has a subsidiary animation studio in Canada called Look Mom! Productions, which is a real, full-fledged animation studio. In the KidScreen article it says Beach House Pictures is handling the writing and the "Blue Ant Studios animation team in Canada" will be handling animation. I'm not sure why they wouldn't name the subsidiary, but surely this must be it... ? Any evidence of "Blue Ant Media/Studios" producing animation points to projects animated by Look Mom! Productions. Initially I thought this was an issue with KidScreen's reporting. There are a lot of details in the article that are incorrect. They named a few projects Beach House Pictures has had their hands in, but those are irrelevant for judging the animation. But when you look at Blue Ant's own press release, it is just as vague and also doesn't name the subsidiary either, just that it is located in Canada. And one last thing of note, there is no mention of the intended demographic in the official press release. I don't know where KidScreen pulled 8-12 from. So there's that. Maybe this won't be as rudimentary as that weird Hatching Time video.
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Post by CrimsonShroud on Feb 11, 2020 16:22:33 GMT -5
I just hope it doesn't turn out like the time that the webcomic CTRL-ALT-DEL tried to make an animated web series. That's not just the floor, that's the basement. Just try to be above that.
Never heard of the webcomic, and after seeing someone's review of it, I'm glad I never did.
I doubt whatever Blue Ant has planned for this series will be anywhere near as bad in terms of production value (at least, here's hoping), but we won't know until the show comes out, if it does.
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Post by Ryanruff13 on Feb 11, 2020 16:31:54 GMT -5
As a second addendum, what I'm regrettably expecting is the series turning out to be known more for its novelty as a show friggin' based on Neopets (holy poop) rather than genuine entertainment value, as much as I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the latter too.
The potential format could have bearing on the plot development/depth per episode or short, and more time per each episode could mean more development, which would probably work out better even if the series turns out to be more comedy-oriented.
There's mad potential but also strong skepticism from me considering the low-budget quality of the studio, as well as frustratingly few details (which is understandable, considering how it was just announced), which is inevitably going to lead to heavy speculation. All I can say is...not much else, really.
(As a side note, as I mentioned in the server I had long had numerous ideas since my childhood for a Neopets show, even before and after Neovision having been a thing, so interesting to see one come to fruition!)
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Post by Breakingchains on Feb 11, 2020 16:46:43 GMT -5
Something that I find perplexing is Blue Ant has a subsidiary animation studio in Canada called Look Mom! Productions, which is a real, full-fledged animation studio. In the KidScreen article it says Beach House Pictures is handling the writing and the "Blue Ant Studios animation team in Canada" will be handling animation. I'm not sure why they wouldn't name the subsidiary, but surely this must be it... ? Any evidence of "Blue Ant Media/Studios" producing animation points to projects animated by Look Mom! Productions. Initially I thought this was an issue with KidScreen's reporting. There are a lot of details in the article that are incorrect. They named a few projects Beach House Pictures has had their hands in, but those are irrelevant for judging the animation. But when you look at Blue Ant's own press release, it is just as vague and also doesn't name the subsidiary either, just that it is located in Canada. And one last thing of note, there is no mention of the intended demographic in the official press release. I don't know where KidScreen pulled 8-12 from. So there's that. Maybe this won't be as rudimentary as that weird Hatching Time video. Good find! Would make a lot more sense if it was by Look Mom--their showreel looks, uh... adult-oriented (complete with the ugly art styles you tend to see in the adult animation genre), but they at least have a larger array of stuff and a catalogue to point to.
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Post by lovejoy1997 on Feb 11, 2020 22:24:11 GMT -5
I wish I'd be hired as an animator for the TV show if I'd graduate.
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Post by smudgeoffudge on Feb 12, 2020 0:32:56 GMT -5
I haven't written for the neopian times in a while. I do have several old stories and comics that people can look up if interested. I know my own work. When we submit art, poetry, stories or comics to the site, there was always the understanding that at some point they might use this content. What would you do if you saw your own ideas used for neopets without credit? Like you wrote a very unique story? You know your own work and you see it duplicated nearly exactly? Well I guess we can't complain if they do that, because we did agree to it in a way. I think I would at least want bragging rights. I don't think I would be hurt by it really. because I know what I did agree to. Also, if they make up any story at all, they are bound to have something that seems to mimic or outright copies what someone may have written in then 20 years neopets has been around. We should prepare for that. I think it night actually be cool to see something I wrote or drew moe fleshed out and real, as long as I could have a nod my way or find a way to have a bit of bragging rights to it. I wouldn't be making money but it might feel nice to think someone must have liked my work and remembered it enough to want to continue the story. But how would you feel? I don't know if anything I wrote would be remembered after all this time or used anyway.
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Post by Killix on Feb 12, 2020 3:51:26 GMT -5
I would be very surprised if they used my garbage series story for a tv show. XD Though, I'd honestly also be quite flattered that they liked it enough to animate it.
I wouldn't be happy if they used my self-insert avatar from my comics, though (Killix). 'cause my stylized face ain't their property and it would be uh... not cool. X'D I don't think I have to worry about that, though. XP
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Post by Huntress on Feb 12, 2020 4:27:45 GMT -5
You know your own work and you see it duplicated nearly exactly? That'll be the day, much more likely that it'd get adjusted and honed and executive-meddled to be nigh unrecognizable, even if they did start out with an NT story xP Producing - and moreover adapting - a show is a big ol' complex beast susceptible to considerations about ratings and wider appeals and altogether getting the most bang for your buck. Disney started out with a story about a force of nature and a sister's love persevering through a journey, and ended up with heckin' Olaf. The Harry Potter movies and Game of Thrones were... a thing. LotR was probably one of the most faithful passion projects, but even they did a whole lot with the original rambly brick of worldbuilding, frequently for the better (I never did like Tom Bombadil). But on the whole I always got the impression that the Neopets copyright claim was meant to work the other way around - as in, not "we might use your stuff for whatever" but "don't use any of our stuff for whatever you please because it's still our stuff, even if you grow very fond of it". Asserting a pre-emptive copyright so that you don't get any ideas about asserting yours, basically. If they had any willingness to adapt user content then they could've drawn from that well ages ago, for site plots (coughLyracough) and Advent Calendar animations.
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