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Post by Shinko on Jan 8, 2018 16:22:29 GMT -5
Rosalie Dylas (Maddy) Liou
Morgaine begs to differ. ;D She says Laurie has clearly never met a kitten because kittens can be lil menaces and so can Rosie.
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Post by Twillie on Jan 8, 2018 19:22:21 GMT -5
Eyy, guess who's just about caught up? =D Lol it's been basically a blur of going to work and reading Medieval, and thankfully I think it'll pay off before the next chapter update x3 hopefully I've been taking notes during my reading, and for now I wanted to post those for everything before chapter 3; I'll post the latter half probably tomorrow, when I got the last page or two read. -I've been wondering a lot about the tasks for the game while reading, especially with a couple posts in mind. And those might have already been talked about, but lol I can't remember off the top of my head x3 (note, in general things will probably slip my mind because there are a lot of characters and plots to keep track of on top of all the behind the curtains stuff shown on this thread x3 Don't be afraid to poke me towards info already said x3) But basically, since this is my one point of reference, how do they compare to HC tasks in terms of types, how they were distributed/claimed, how they were fulfilled? I noticed a couple posts were noticeably meta or reference-y, but I couldn't tell if that was related to a task or just in character (with Rosalie Dylas (Maddy), it's hard to tell what's over the top and what's normal x3). -Also, I was wondering about factions, namely with the peasants, but I think my question kind of got answered with the reading. I was wondering if the peasants aligned with the Shadows were already a part of them at the start of the game, or if they joined later on, and it looks to be the latter (along with the two houses, which I didn't know peasants could align with =o). Now I'm wondering, are the peasant alignments from the writers' own choice, or are they simply consequences of backstage actions? Are they a way to keep score of which faction is in the lead, or are they just advantages? -Also speaking of Shadows, this may be the intent of the writing since they're supposed to be a mysterious, underground group, but I'm trying to figure out their agenda. I know they're against House Ascension, but is their goal just to topple the house and have controlled chaos or something, or do they plan on taking power themselves? The heir conversation is what got me kind of confused, since one said "Placing another power on the throne of Kyth? I thought we wanted to topple House Ascension, not replace it," which implies they want the former. But iirc, they didn't have a hand in Starmey's death, and if their goal was just to get rid of Ascension, what were they doing as a group if the problem just solved itself? But then the heir topic comes up, so do they have an actual agenda they want to push, and they're hoping the heir will be on board with it as well? And then some character stuff: - PFA Did you write all of Joffrey's songs yourself? If so, how many do you think you ended up making, and were any difficult to do? =o - Gelquie Now that you mention it and I finally finished the first round, I can definitely see the tension between Elin and Kelcey you and Avery played around with. Knowing what's to come, it's interesting to read it now x3 Lol now it just makes me envision Elin venting her "I'm good enough!" grievances with Xavier listening like the good "friend" that he is, and then Xavier giving Kelcey the stink eye from then on x33 -Lol, I couldn't help but relate with Tiger's reaction when the funeral broke into a music battle, as it made me flashback to high school times x3 Just that sensation of suddenly finding yourself in a situation that makes you go "How, when, and why did we get to this point??" And all you want is to just make everyone be quiet, because it's really for the best x3 -Aww, Lizica you have found my greatest weakness and won my heart as the hapless but adorkable guy that can't help but fall for misfortune x3 <3 Also, that singing vase, for some reason it sticks out in my mind as a thing that I've heard about before, and it might be super important later on, but for the life of me I can't remember why I think this x3 -Lol, now that Shinko brought it up, I'm wondering now the origin story of her and Rosalie Dylas (Maddy) as business partners x3
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Post by Shinko on Jan 8, 2018 20:14:42 GMT -5
TwillieMetatextually, Medieval did not work much like Hero City. XD I think there were only three total “post in the roleplay” missions and they were very simple by comparison- make a bunch of show references in a round, sing in the roleplay, and have x amount of posts all on one page all from your one faction. For the vast majority of the game it played out more like this- Role A has Ability B, and has to use that ability either in isolation or alongside someone else in their faction’s ability to achieve C Thing for mission points. To avoid spoilers since as a merchant my meta actions were largely inconsequential to the plot, I’ll use one of mine and Maddy’s missions as an example. At this early stage of the game we had three primary abilities: create keys/lock boxes, stock the shop with keys/lock boxes, and give keys/lock boxes away as a gift to other players. We had a mission called “Barrage-A-House” that called for us to give all the original members of one of the noble houses (peasant recruits didn’t count) a gift. Since we each could only make one thing a night, we had to spend time alternating between creating and sending out presents until we finished it. There were also missions for “make x amount of thing” or “earn y currency type” and so on. The factions had a lot more variety in their available night actions so their missions were generally more complicated, but that gives you the gist. The events of each narrator post sum up the most important/noteworthy night actions. So to use myself as an example again, Maddy and I were kind of lax about the actual selling part of merchanting and when the narrator post showed Morgaine and Rosie stocking their shop, it was because that was the first time all game we’d actually had anything for sale. XD I’ll respond to other stuff in a bit, but I’m leaving work now so gotta jet.
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Post by PFA on Jan 8, 2018 21:43:47 GMT -5
Now I'm wondering, are the peasant alignments from the writers' own choice, or are they simply consequences of backstage actions? Are they a way to keep score of which faction is in the lead, or are they just advantages? Nope, the peasants actually had no say in which faction they got recruited into, lol. It was all done by behind-the-scenes game mechanics. One of the major mechanics of the game was to recruit special roles into your faction and use them to your advantage, to mess with other factions and earn quest points and whatnot. - PFA Did you write all of Joffrey's songs yourself? If so, how many do you think you ended up making, and were any difficult to do? =o Yep, I wrote all of the Joffery songs! A couple of them later in reference existing songs, but for the most part they were just random lyrics I made up on the fly. I don't really remember how hard they were to make, but I'm sure there were some rhymes I agonized over. XD Most of them were written without specific tunes in mind, though I did go back and try to make tunes for all of them at some point with limited success, lol. (P sure I linked The Ace of Hearts earlier) Though thanks to that, I can tell you that there were uhhh nine Joff songs over the course of the roleplay. Get hype \ o /
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Post by Twillie on Jan 8, 2018 22:26:58 GMT -5
Shinko Ohh, so does that mean players within the same faction knew each other's roles? Or did they have to go up to each other and say "Hey, I'm this, wanna team up and try to accomplish something?" And lol at just having things for sale then xD Probably because Rosie's revolutionizing sales with her throw-and-sell technique; actually shelving things is in the past! PFA Ooh, I'm sure that made things interesting then! x3 How'd peasants get into the Shadows then, if there weren't any starter PC players in it to recruit them? And ah, nice! Lol, I can only imagine trying to rhyme all the time with those x3 Song writing was never a skill of mine, as proven by my surefire technique of just using preexisting songs if I have a musical character xD And ooh, will have to relook for that song then! Hype \o/
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Post by Shinko on Jan 8, 2018 22:43:41 GMT -5
Twillie Yup, everyone within the same faction knew all of each other's roles- the originals from each faction just kept their roles secret from the rest of the players. Peasant recruits eventually got outed once they'd all been snapped up, with the exception of the heir who stayed secret because revealing who they were would've painted a target on their back. There were PC shadows from the start, their identities were just secret from everyone except each other. It led to some behind the scenes hilarity as noble houses kept trying to recruit original shadows over and over and getting a "Your action didn't go through" error, lol. Also to semi-answer your question about the Shadows from earlier, if their motivations seem inconsistent that's because... their motivations were inconsistent. XD At the start of the game the narratorposts played them very much differently from how they developed once the peasants were all recruited and the Shadows could finally act as Shadows within the story and worldbuild their own motivations and intentions. As for the heir, without spoiling too much... The gist of their objective is to topple the current power structure, and the point of the True Heir is to give them a means to do so... sort of legitimately. Ergo, an out in meta so that they didn't have to have a bloody Reign of Terror style VIVA LA REVOLUCION if the players didn't want.
Where it goes exactly I'll leave mum for now, tho.
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Post by Twillie on Jan 8, 2018 23:01:22 GMT -5
Shinko Ah, alrighty! Oh, so some of the nobles were also originally in the Shadows? Unless there are peasants that are also PC players? (lolz I am slow sometimes x3;) Ahh, alrighty x3 I getcha there, and lol yeah that makes sense for why the heir is there x3
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Post by Shinko on Jan 8, 2018 23:14:08 GMT -5
Oh, so some of the nobles were also originally in the Shadows? Unless there are peasants that are also PC players? (lolz I am slow sometimes x3;) Ah, no lol. To clarify- that list of peasants on the very first page of the roleplay? Four of those peasants are the Shadows players. They were the ones recruiting other, non-aligned peasants. When I mentioned the nobles, I just mean the nobles tried to recruit shadow players because nobody knew who the Shadows were except the other Shadows- so as far as the Houses could guess, those players were as recruitable as any of the other peasants. It was only after they tried to recruit them and couldn't that they realized "Oh- must be one of the Shadows. >_>"
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Post by Twillie on Jan 8, 2018 23:27:42 GMT -5
Oh, I had the peasants in my mind as NPC characters, hence why the term player characters was throwing me off there x3; Which I guess is just a side effect again of me not having much experience with NTWF roleplays; the terminology of one (in this case, Wrighton) I assume is just the same as all the others.
But okay, since they're all called player characters, that makes more sense to me now!
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Post by Shinko on Jan 8, 2018 23:35:14 GMT -5
Oh, I had the peasants in my mind as NPC characters, hence why the term player characters was throwing me off there x3; Which I guess is just a side effect again of me not having much experience with NTWF roleplays; the terminology of one (in this case, Wrighton) I assume is just the same as all the others. But okay, since they're all called player characters, that makes more sense to me now! Yeah, for the purposes of Medieval the Player Characters are the ones that have abilities in the Metagame- Non-Player Characters are the ones who are just there as story. So like, Ambrose is a Player Character, Alain is a Non-Player Character. Xavier is a Player Character, Ilsa is a Non-Player Character. So on. XD So yeah, the Shadows were players- the only NPC admin characters of the sort you're thinking of (comparable to Bill Sinclair or Iskender from Hero City) were Destiney, Aines, and... some spoilers that come into things later. For now, mostly just Destiney and Aines.
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Post by PFA on Jan 9, 2018 0:28:19 GMT -5
And ah, nice! Lol, I can only imagine trying to rhyme all the time with those x3 Song writing was never a skill of mine, as proven by my surefire technique of just using preexisting songs if I have a musical character xD And ooh, will have to relook for that song then! Hype \o/ Songwriting is a thing I dabble in on occasion so I guess writing lyrics was something I picked up on at some point. Useful for writing Joff though so I can't complain lol Also I looked it up so here's the link again if you want to save yourself some digging: amysgames.sytes.net/misc/music/Joffery/The%20Ace%20of%20Hearts.mp3So yeah, the Shadows were players- the only NPC admin characters of the sort you're thinking of (comparable to Bill Sinclair or Iskender from Hero City) were Destiney, Aines, and... some spoilers that come into things later. For now, mostly just Destiney and Aines. Don't forget Kelcey lol
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Post by Gelquie on Jan 9, 2018 1:10:30 GMT -5
Chapter 4 was the round where it starts getting closer to when Elin's characterization is a bit more firm for me; the events in motion starting here are what help contribute to it, so good times there. \ o / Lots of good character stuff going on here, but for the moment, to respond to direct inquiries: Now vague spoiler comments, not just for the rounds so far but for the game. Nothing specific, but even so, read at your own risk: Gelquie : Now I'm curious, did Claire ever 'ship Elin and Kelcey, or was she always firmly in the canon camp? ;3 (You might have answered this somewhere, but there is about three years of content to remember for Medieval, so remind me again. xD; ) Also, Elin and Ambrose meeting. \o/ *casually hangs up the Chekhov's gun* Ah, this was something I worked out in the aftermath round. xD There's a line there that implies that such a 'shipping was a result of another ill-conceived bet with Ilsa and Clare. Whether or not it was drunk, I couldn't tell you, but one thing I notice from other bets is that Clare is historically bad at them anyway. xD I recall that at the end, she wasn't too broken up to see that the 'ship didn't sail, just mildly disappointed that she lost the bet. And yess xD - Gelquie Now that you mention it and I finally finished the first round, I can definitely see the tension between Elin and Kelcey you and Avery played around with. Knowing what's to come, it's interesting to read it now x3 Lol now it just makes me envision Elin venting her "I'm good enough!" grievances with Xavier listening like the good "friend" that he is, and then Xavier giving Kelcey the stink eye from then on x33 Yeah, it's kinda funny to look back on. xD The lines a la "I'm good enough!" I tried to write to be vague, but it is one of my weirder Early Character Syndrome paragraphs for sure. xDD While I don't think Elin ever vented along those lines directly to Xavier, that is a funny mental image. However, I could see Xavier reading into Elin being very concerned for Kelcey and drawing conclusions from that, but that's up to Elcie. xD
I actually do have an explanation for the "I'm good enough!" that fits canon, but I'll keep it to myself for now because spoilers. x3
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Post by Shinko on Jan 9, 2018 10:36:34 GMT -5
So yeah, the Shadows were players- the only NPC admin characters of the sort you're thinking of (comparable to Bill Sinclair or Iskender from Hero City) were Destiney, Aines, and... some spoilers that come into things later. For now, mostly just Destiney and Aines. Don't forget Kelcey lol Kelcey I was on the fence about because while he does inadvertently have a huge impact later on for spoiler reasons, for a while he was moreso Carrie's lol character than an "admin" character for furthering the main plot, but you could make a case either way, ahaha. *Pats poor abused Kel-cee*
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Post by Twillie on Jan 9, 2018 12:48:01 GMT -5
And ah, nice! Lol, I can only imagine trying to rhyme all the time with those x3 Song writing was never a skill of mine, as proven by my surefire technique of just using preexisting songs if I have a musical character xD And ooh, will have to relook for that song then! Hype \o/ Songwriting is a thing I dabble in on occasion so I guess writing lyrics was something I picked up on at some point. Useful for writing Joff though so I can't complain lol Also I looked it up so here's the link again if you want to save yourself some digging: amysgames.sytes.net/misc/music/Joffery/The%20Ace%20of%20Hearts.mp3Ooh, neat =o Haha lol yeah, why not get some use out of it character-wise :3 And ooh, thanks! - Gelquie Now that you mention it and I finally finished the first round, I can definitely see the tension between Elin and Kelcey you and Avery played around with. Knowing what's to come, it's interesting to read it now x3 Lol now it just makes me envision Elin venting her "I'm good enough!" grievances with Xavier listening like the good "friend" that he is, and then Xavier giving Kelcey the stink eye from then on x33 Yeah, it's kinda funny to look back on. xD The lines a la "I'm good enough!" I tried to write to be vague, but it is one of my weirder Early Character Syndrome paragraphs for sure. xDD While I don't think Elin ever vented along those lines directly to Xavier, that is a funny mental image. However, I could see Xavier reading into Elin being very concerned for Kelcey and drawing conclusions from that, but that's up to Elcie. xD
I actually do have an explanation for the "I'm good enough!" that fits canon, but I'll keep it to myself for now because spoilers. x3 xDD Makes me wonder what Xavier would do if he indeed draw conclusions and had feelings at the time x3
Ohh? ',:3 I'm curious now what that explanation might be, will maybe keep an eye out in case I pick up on it. I have maybe a hunch at least, considering in context Elin is comparing herself as good enough as Destiney, aka royal House Ascension. But I don't really know x3
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Post by Shinko on Jan 9, 2018 14:55:44 GMT -5
Caught up for the round! Celestial Ahaha, Ambrose is so assertive! I wonder if it's just a Garrick thing or an early character thing. Avery Desi is such a sweet baby who deserves all the good things to happen to her. A perfect princess. Looking back frankly she and Kelcey deserve one another, ahaha.Tiger Elcie 8o First interaction between Leif and Xavier! And Leif is predictably a grump about it, ahaha. Birdnerd hasn't put enough points in woob handling. </3 (For the new, "woob handling" is a joke for a character's ability to recognize and sympathize with woobs) Jayeee PFA Mentioned this on discord but it bears repeating, it is certainly not ominous in the least that the very last two posts of the pre-feast round were our two suitors promising to behave themselves. XD
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