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Post by Killix on Dec 16, 2017 22:49:56 GMT -5
I'm curious, were certain roles supposed to be kept secret, or was that sort of at the discretion of the player? Because so far, some of the characters' roles are very clear based on their intro post, while others I know from past glances aren't revealed until the very end. The merchant roles were not secret, but the House factions and recruitable roles were!
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Post by Gelquie on Dec 17, 2017 0:44:58 GMT -5
Gelquie Ooh, what's this about a Mafia III reference with Aunt Clare, and does it have anything to do with the interestingly-named Lesbian dish? x3 Dunno if I should spoiler this or not, but eh why not x3 I know what's to come, I just don't know when, so maybe it's already underway in the reading x3 But I'm very curious about the story behind Elin and Xavier. I remember you mentioning before that a relationship wasn't planned for Elin, it just sort of happened, and I'm assuming that's the same for Xavier, so I'd love to hear about that sometime, on when and how it may have happened xD Was it this early on that the decision to go that route was made, or are the two's interactions in this first chapter the precursor to all that? Also Elcie That it does! =D I made a post about this reference describing it in more detail. You can read it here if you'd like. ^^ For the sake of everyone else who may not know, probably best to spoiler it, yes. xD Anyone peeking in on this post, if you know absolutely nothing about Elin's arc (specifically regarding her interactions with others), don't read the words in this spoiler box. I hope their relationship is fun to read. The story develops along with our plans for them, and it all came together really well and was really fun to write and develop. =3 Since yeah, the relationship was not planned for Elin nor was it planned for Xavier and it was only in later middle rounds that we went "waiiiit". The first post with them together was planned as "hmm, we need first round interactions, what if our characters know each other and Elin came by to do a delivery run." Although even during that collab post, turned out both of us were secretly wondering "hmm, what if... nah, it's the first post, don't jump to conclusions." I guess it could count as a precursor as it established them knowing each other and set a tone between them that we developed from there. In later posts involving them, you'll see a lot of instances showing their closeness that was actually a character going "I wanna do this" and us going "uhh... okay, you do that." The way we saw it, our characters knew before we did and dropped hints. xD In a specific round after a while of this, Elcie finally approached me in a sidechat and asked about doing something official, to which I agreed because I was thinking the same thing. I don't remember what round this is, but it's much later anyway. I'll look up when that is, but in the meantime, I wonder if you can guess when that was. =3 (Don't expect it till a long time later, though. We're still way before that. xD )
Oh, and if you're wondering about the early rounds with Elin and Kelcey, you're not seeing things; Carrie and I were low-key pondering 'shipping them in the really early days. Buuut it became pretty clear pretty early that it wouldn't have worked. At least, the way I saw it. xD I see their relationship as closer to a sibling-type one.
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Post by Reiqua on Dec 17, 2017 5:21:27 GMT -5
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Post by Coaster on Dec 17, 2017 18:40:56 GMT -5
Coaster Ooh, Kaldora's design was always one that intrigued me beforehand, I'll be curious now to know her character better! I've read just your first post for now, so just to make sure I understand, her actual identity/species is a secret for now? I interpreted her elven backstory as just a character she created, so what she says she is to others right now is not really that? In a word, I guess... yes? xD More specifically, the entire backstory (at least in in-universe terms) given in her first post is just made up for a LARP character she created, to be played alongside Ilaria ( Pixie's NPC)'s character Kitty Emberfall who shows up farther along in the early rounds. Out-of-universe, much of it is pretty much a carbon copy of WoW lore, because I didn't have character ideas and the world wasn't very fleshed out yet so I was basically "why not make a huge blatant egregious reference that has no historical basis in Medieval-land for a character that doesn't represent the actual Kaldora anyways". So, suffice to say, she is not actually a settler night elf Blizzard-IP-ripoff, even if the truth is... sliiightly similar in some ways, which will become clear later in the RP. Elves do exist in Kyth, just not the kind that Kaldora's referencing. (Also, her arc is fairly self-contained and centers mostly around herself, Ilaria, and Ancel, with just a few interactions with Ignotus and the nobles, so hopefully it isn't too confusing to keep track of!) (and also thank you for asking, none of my characters do much in the expanded universe for various as-yet-spoilery reasons so it's nice to be able to revisit them even in all their weirdness) (and also I need to finish reading these first couple rounds soon, oops)
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Post by Celestial on Dec 17, 2017 21:07:50 GMT -5
Celestial Lol, that MLP reference, Ambrose x3 Are you sure that's the future you're seeing into, and not the fourth wall? x3 Regarding Ambrose and Alain, though, I know you mentioned that they suffer from Early Character Syndrome, but so far I'm pretty intrigued by their dynamic. I had fun with their first post, and both of them sound like they've got a lot of story to reveal and go through. So, if it only gets better from here, then I'm interested to read it :3 Also: "Garrick, the son he was least likely to miss" Loool XD Mind you, canonically Alain only has one other son, but at least that kid us quiet and shy. Garrick, meanwhile, is Garrick. Alain considers him mildly amusing at best and an irredeemable but thankfully easily manipulated sociopath at worst. But thank you, I am glad that despite the early character syndrome, I am happy you are intrigued and enjoy their dynamic. Looking back, it is not as bad as I remember, but the way they ended up being and the elements that became important later are very much underplayed in comparison to other elements in these early posts. For example, originally Alain was a lot more manipulative of Ambrose and seemed to have a ton of distain for him, seeing him only useful for his visions, which later proved to be...not the case and something that a more developed Alain would find abhorrent. What made them special for me to write was their bond, and it just is not there in the early posts. I also make fun of Ambrose a lot more, which knowing what I know later feels mean. The pop culture references in his visions, for example, are relics of that, because "lol, dumb medieval person does not understand what he sees is just pop culture". As I get more into his character and begin to take him seriously while giving him depth, that goes away. That said, you're absolutely right, they have a lot of story to go through, both forward and back. :3 I hope you enjoy it all, especially since a lot of it was made up on the fly (for example, I had no idea what the cause of Ambrose's visions was until at least round 5. XD I was just happy to leave it unexplained.) And a small, unrelated note about Jay-characters, but they have been a proud tradition in every NTWF RP he has been a part of all the way down to the first Mafia. That was where it all began. XD All three Mafias had them, as well as Island, Clue, and of course, Hero City and Medieval. And every one is wonderful. (If you ask me, I can try digging out my arts that I gifted Jay of THE PYTHON (Mafia II), Travis (Mafia III) and Garrick (ditto) in Bro Heaven. XD
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Post by PFA on Dec 17, 2017 21:15:44 GMT -5
And a small, unrelated note about Jay-characters, but they have been a proud tradition in every NTWF RP he has been a part of all the way down to the first Mafia. That was where it all began. XD All three Mafias had them, as well as Island, Clue, and of course, Hero City and Medieval. And every one is wonderful. (If you ask me, I can try digging out my arts that I gifted Jay of THE PYTHON (Mafia II), Travis (Mafia III) and Garrick (ditto) in Bro Heaven. XD There was also one in Town and I think Liar's Game? I recall my characters reacting to them, lol. But yes, it is a time-honored tradition
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Post by Shinko on Dec 17, 2017 21:16:49 GMT -5
And a small, unrelated note about Jay-characters, but they have been a proud tradition in every NTWF RP he has been a part of all the way down to the first Mafia. That was where it all began. XD All three Mafias had them, as well as Island, Clue, and of course, Hero City and Medieval. And every one is wonderful. (If you ask me, I can try digging out my arts that I gifted Jay of THE PYTHON (Mafia II), Travis (Mafia III) and Garrick (ditto) in Bro Heaven. XD Don't forget Benjamin and Sebastian! =D EDIT: LOL PFA beat me to it.
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Post by Ginz ❤ on Dec 17, 2017 23:43:00 GMT -5
Oh man, Jay characters! XD I still remember when we thought Joseph Maximillian III (Jay's character in Mafia I) was THE WORST. XD But looking back, he honestly comes off as a sweet innocent angel compared to some of the characters that came next. XD;
(sorry that wasn't very on-topic about Medieval >>; I'll be honest and confess I'm behind on my reading ^^;; I read a bit over half of chapter one. I've been enjoying it, though, there is SO much I had forgotten. I'll try to catch up to the rest of you!)
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Post by Twillie on Dec 18, 2017 11:59:00 GMT -5
There was also one in Town and I think Liar's Game? I recall my characters reacting to them, lol. But yes, it is a time-honored tradition Wait, there were characters in Liar's Game?? You know, with how clueless I was during that whole event, I actually wouldn't be surprised that I missed that detail xDD
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Post by Coaster on Dec 18, 2017 18:06:07 GMT -5
There was also one in Town and I think Liar's Game? I recall my characters reacting to them, lol. But yes, it is a time-honored tradition Wait, there were characters in Liar's Game?? You know, with how clueless I was during that whole event, I actually wouldn't be surprised that I missed that detail xDD I seem to remember some kind of werewolf pineapple ( PFA) and a Woo evangelist Shetland pony ( Celestial) in Liar's Game as well? So there are at least a few folks who made a character/avatar for it.
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Post by Kyn on Dec 19, 2017 13:13:55 GMT -5
My commentary for the first two pages of Chapter 1, possibly more to come if I find the time to write them down. Jayeee My own tongue was rendered speechless at this point oO From that moment on, I knew that Garrick Stallion would be the kind of character that you'd love reading about for how over-the-top obnoxious they are XD (Is that a defining characteristic of the class of creature known as the 'Jay character'?) I appreciated how 'pivotal' has an alternate reading here, in the sense of a dancer pivoting XD Also, one has to feel sorry for Grand Duke Alain for siring such a son, unless the father turns out to be just as bad Thundy An Ohio Yankee in Queen Desi's Court! 8D Some words of advice for you, Tony my boy: - Work your darnedest to recall if any solar eclipses are due in the near future. Such knowledge might literally be the difference between life and death — your life and death. - Utilise your 21st century skills and knowledge to your best advantage. Done properly, you might even snare a lofty position such as prime minister or chief magician. - It is also common for time travellers to become romantically involved with a high-ranking member of nobility or royalty and gain power and influence thereby. You will usually meet your future beloved soon after arrival in the past. Lizzie When spoilt young Karma was gazing quietly at her beloved papa's corpse, I actually started to feel sorry for her until she asked the question about the eyes. At which point I had a difficult time deciding whose bloodthirsty tendencies disturbed me more: Karma's or Garrick's. Celestial Good news: Grand Duke Alain is not as bad as his son. And furthermore, Grand Duke Alain is aware of the deficiencies of said son. Fortunately, it sounds like he has a reasonably competent heir, thank goodness for the people of Bern. Oooh, tis Ambrose! =D How long can Ambrose's visions last? Caden's never last more than a minute. ...Also, that's a, ah, very interesting vision. Honestly not what I was expecting at all. Aww, Ambrose Caden: ...BROTHER. ;-; ;-; ;-; Me: He's not your brother, he's Alain's brother. Caden: I meant 'brother' in the sense of two people who share a common bond of having underwent similar traumatic experiences. Draco Davorin Silverkin's debut is just as cool as an assassin's should be <3 Tiger This one sentence instantly endeared Leif to me as one of the most likeable and relateable characters to appear so far ;3; Lizica I like this alternate ending to the Pygmalion story =D Statue lady's right, she shouldn't have marriage foisted upon her like that and she would have reservations about a guy who falls in love with statues. Wonder if she'll ever show up in the RP again, I like her sassiness. Shinko It came as a surprise to me when I read that Morgaine, a seemingly humble peasant locksmith, actually had an elven knight for a husband. Wonder whether 'boredom' had any part to play in how they met... Ginz ❤ Ginz ❤ Ooh, I wonder if there really is any foundation to Corinne's belief that she's royal/somehow Fate reborn! For my part, I reflexively thought, 'Cori, you've read too many Chinese time-travel novels.' The fact that that was the first theory that popped into my mind makes me wonder whether I haven't read too many Chinese time-travel stories myself... Death-triggered soul transfers are a popular cliche in said stories, except it works the other way around, with the modern-day protagonist being transferred into the body of an ancient noblewoman and proceeding to kick butt with her 21st century skills and knowledge.
Lastly, a question that's been nagging at me: is 'Kine' pronounced as 'kin' or 'kind'?
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Post by Celestial on Dec 19, 2017 13:27:04 GMT -5
Kyn, Glad you seem to be liking things so far! =D And now in regards to specific commentary... Regarding Garrick, on rest assured, he is one of the few things that give Alain headaches. 8D He is definitely nowhere as bad. He is more morally grey and while he does do unpleasant things, there is a good reason behind it beyond "bloodlust"...but I'm getting ahead of myself.
=P There is a whole story behind Isabella (who later became Isabelle, thank you, Kristy) and how she became heir instead of Garrick (because Garrick was slated to be) but it is Expanded Universe and I need to write it. Basically, Garrick got the title robbed in favour of older sister and I headcanon he is angry about it still (not that this will come up because lawl, headcanon, but...)
And yes, Ambrose. =D I never thought about how long his visions last, since I think it tends to vary, but definitely can be longer than a minute.
<3 And now you finally understand why I drew those arts. As soon as I read about Caden's predicament, Ambrose in my head reached out and wanted to give all the hugs in regards to their shared trauma. And this is just the first post. As I get more and more into him, is visions and eventually their root cause (hurhurhur) I hope Caden in your head is taken on an emotional journey. As for Kine...I will let Gelquie hold off on the final word, as Kine is her dominion, but I have always pronounced it as "Kind", just without the "d", obviously.
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Post by Shinko on Dec 19, 2017 13:41:46 GMT -5
Funnily enough on the subject of pronunciations, the country of Kyth itself has always been inconsistent between writers. XD I put forward that name for the poll before the game started, and my mental pronunciation rhymes with "scythe" but other people have told me they mentally read it as rhyming with "with." Kyn Ahaha, it doesn't get detailed too much in the game itself, but if you're still curious after the reading party is over, I wrote quite a few stories in the extended universe about Morgaine's relationship with her elf knight husband and how that went. Let's just say Morgaine has a big personality to compensate for her low status- just watch for her interactions with Alain later on in the game and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
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Post by Gelquie on Dec 19, 2017 17:51:14 GMT -5
As for Kine...I will let Gelquie hold off on the final word, as Kine is her dominion, but I have always pronounced it as "Kind", just without the "d", obviously. (and Kyn) That's pretty much how I pronounce it too. xD (As for Kyth, I always pronounce it with Ky sounding the same as the beginning of kite.)
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Post by Reiqua on Dec 19, 2017 18:44:07 GMT -5
Kyn Celestial GelquieI could be entirely mistaken on this but... if I recall my brief look at the map correctly the capital city of Kine was... some obscure and/or Latin word that started with “B” and was related to cows... ‘bovine’ perhaps...? So I would assume that Kine would be pronounced with the long i, same as the old English word “kine” meaning (I think) cattle... Anyway correct me if I’m wrong on that. I can’t even check the map because it won’t show up properly on my phone and I don’t have access to a computer at the moment!! But I do recall noting that a number of the regions seemed to have names derived from obscure and/or Latin words related to (presumably) their produce and I thought it was very clever!! Though unlike the average book club we have access to the authors here so perhaps someone can enlighten me as to the process of how things were named etc? EDIT: Lol, looks like I may have been incredibly mistaken on this one after all (though perhaps I thought Booveen was intended to evoke bovine?) But would still be interested to hear how places on the map were named? Shinko named Kyth I take it? (Or at least recommended the name and perhaps it was voted on??) DOUBLE EDIT: Actually I think I reinstate that theory on seeing that House Ophid (ophid being a Latin Greek root used in words pertaining to snakes) has a capital city called Copperhead in their region of Elacs (being scale spelled backwards). I presume the produce of that region is not snakes though - insignias perhaps...?
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