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Post by doctortomoe on Feb 28, 2016 4:18:51 GMT -5
Okay, it's not just me, a lot of people are getting this.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Feb 28, 2016 4:20:41 GMT -5
Okay, it's not just me, a lot of people are getting this. If you're talking about Trudy appearing even though you spun it, yeah, I'm getting it too.
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Post by Herdy on Feb 28, 2016 17:24:30 GMT -5
Regardless of the player, the lawyer that got hold of it is fairly obviously fishing. Neopets isn't the only site to be targeted using these laws. And the figure they have set for damages is coincidentally the maximum you can have before defendants can move the court to the federal level (where they are more likely to throw it out). The lawyers JS have got are class action specialists, so it seems like there will be a reasonable fight though. That said, it's not simply about there being text on the page. According to the law there has to be an affirmative popup when you sign up. There isn't for Neopets. Details on how to cancel via help links or FAQs need to be clearly communicated. Because Neopets has had a broken FAQ section since the help overhaul for a number of players, that's not been provided. The most shaky claim is that the small print is too small/out of the way - but the other two hold up. It's a silly law, sure. I don't believe anyone who signed up for premium since 2010 thought it was a one off payment forever. But it's the law. What do you see as the most likely result of this? I imagine now JS have lawyers on it they'll find some loophole out of it. But even if they didn't, and they lost the case, I wouldn't worry about it finishing Neopets. JS would be able to appeal the verdict (possibly multiple times), so it would drag on for well over a year before there was any solid, inescapable ruling against JS. If you honestly believe JS is doing so well that Neopets will, by itself, have multiple years of current output left, I think you are being optimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 18:41:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I had to turn off Trudy after this happened to me. I'm gonna be working HARD for that Quetzal now....
And yeah, whoever sued is probably remaining a John Doe so they don't have to deal people doing crazy stuff like doxing them and other nasty things.
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Post by Sabre on Feb 29, 2016 16:05:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I had to turn off Trudy after this happened to me. I'm gonna be working HARD for that Quetzal now.... And yeah, whoever sued is probably remaining a John Doe so they don't have to deal people doing crazy stuff like doxing them and other nasty things. I noticed that if I run it (it doesn't give me more neopoints) and go to another page it doesn't show up again. Perhaps you can try that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:18:26 GMT -5
Enh, Duke Pikachu is awesome and traded me a Darigan Quetzal, so now I don't need to. Still, having over 100K again is nice Anyway, after looking at the comments on JN's article, I saw some good points about how this suit doesn't have any real merit since it has nothing to do with the legitimate problems people have been having with Premium and NC. I'm also glad to learn JS decided to let you keep most of your privileges if your Premium stuff gets screwed up. I'm VERY happy about the new fifth pet policy - I'm waaaaay too attached to my pets/characters to consider letting them go.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Feb 29, 2016 21:33:16 GMT -5
Customization spotlight winners in the news are from last week =/
But Faerie Bori MP has me happy, I like those.
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Post by doctortomoe on Mar 4, 2016 3:35:38 GMT -5
So, we're approaching the one year anniversary of the layoff....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 12:01:49 GMT -5
You know, if that lawsuit sinks the site, we should get in contact with some of the old TNT and see if we can rally a kickstarter or something for a spiritual successor to the site.
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Post by mac on Mar 5, 2016 5:48:52 GMT -5
The request to stay anonymous was denied, so now we know the full name of the Plaintiff. There's enough evidence about this guy online to show that he tries to catch companies with their pants down and sue them over the same California renewal law in hopes of winning. This lawsuit has nothing to do with JumpStart's awfulness, but they might still lose the case anyway.
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Post by Herdy on Mar 5, 2016 8:20:10 GMT -5
I think that even as recently as last month he's been terminating cases he's brought against others suggests that JS is more likely to win (though I suppose he could have terminated it due to a settlement).
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Post by Jae on Mar 5, 2016 11:32:47 GMT -5
Is it just the guy who initiated the lawsuit that doesn't get to remain anonymous, or is it the entire class of 'premium users since 2010' as well? :S
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Post by Herdy on Mar 5, 2016 17:51:52 GMT -5
That list doesn't exist currently - it would only be compiled in the event of JS losing the case. Typically though individual members of a class beyond the representative are not named in public records. The only risk of that happening would be if you were contacted about the class and you decided to opt out of claiming - in which case court records have to reflect that by naming you (unless you can demonstrate a good reason to retain your anonymity).
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Mar 5, 2016 18:48:31 GMT -5
I think that even as recently as last month he's been terminating cases he's brought against others suggests that JS is more likely to win (though I suppose he could have terminated it due to a settlement). That's how people like this work. This scam sounds similar to those who patent ideas in the hope a big company would one day do it so they can then sue them but then take a settlement since the company doesn't want to go through a court case (even if they win they'll have to pay legal fees, which is probably the same amount the settlement is). This guy sounds like the same kind of scum, looks through websites hoping to find one of them not following a law which only one or a few states even follow, threaten to sue them, and just before it goes to court offers to make a settlement (once again, probably the same amount the legal fees would have been).
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Post by mac on Mar 9, 2016 13:32:38 GMT -5
JumpStart's hired lawyers have filed a motion to dismiss the case. The hearing is on 4/22.
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