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Post by Kai on May 9, 2012 7:17:15 GMT -5
So basically there's this thing: www.facebook.com/RoyalTeacupPuppieswww.royalteacuppuppies.com/On their facebook page, myself included, if anyone even so much as asks about pedigrees/health background/info on parents, their comments get deleted and the person gets banned, even if it's not negative at all, but the people who run the page apparently think so. This type of thing is a huge red flag. If they were proper breeders, they would provide this information. My friend, who is a very smart cookie xP, posted this on their page: www.barktopia.com/teacup.htm . She's awaiting the ban. It's obvious that this place is a horrible puppymill with cutesy things to cover it all up. What are your thoughts on things such as this? I can only imagine what those pups go through.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 7:24:40 GMT -5
Agreed about the breeding of them. It's wrong and not very good for the dogs.
However (and I don't think anyone will be opposed to this), that doesn't mean we shouldn't adopt out the poor dogs already in existence. I think the animal rescues need to shut down the puppy mills and take their dogs to the shelter to be adopted into loving homes, not by people who think of dogs (or ANY kind of animal) as little more than a Christmas ornament.
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Post by Kai on May 9, 2012 7:32:07 GMT -5
Yes, an organization such as ASPCA would need to take the dogs from them first, because it would defeat the purpose to buy them from the breeder in order to save them. These dogs are soooo tiny, and I know dogs can be small, but these dogs just seem waaayy too small to be even remotely healthy.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 7:34:53 GMT -5
I read some sad stories about how sick some of those tiny puppies got D=
I just thank Calliope that they're not doing this to kittens. (If they are, I will be REALLY mad)
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Post by Kai on May 9, 2012 7:45:45 GMT -5
well I can almost promise you that it is happening somewhere with cats :C
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 9:30:20 GMT -5
Where there are ignorant people, the will always be scumbags who will abuse their ignorance for profit... at whatever it takes.
Personally I find it sickening that they sell 'premature' pups... and at those prices!
But most of all, I get angry with the people who are actually willing to buy them. Why can't people do some homework before they decide to buy a pet? I see and hear people talk about getting dogs, purely for their looks, way to often. And I grit my teeth every time. Yeah, they are cute. But they are puppies... that are too young to be sold!
When I was a kid, I wanted a Siberian Husky, because it looked like a wolf with blue eyes. But then I got educated and know that it's not the dog for my kind of lifestyle.
Over here, it's illegal to sell dogs and cats when they are below the right age for selling (12 weeks for kittens, and 8 weeks for puppies as a minimum). Of course, that wouldn't do much good when the births are so premature. I'm utterly disgusted with the greed of these kind of people.
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Post by Breakingchains on May 9, 2012 10:53:58 GMT -5
Quoted for truth. People decide they want one for the appearance of the pet and the image that goes along with it, and never care to think beyond that selfish emotional impulse. Teacup puppy? It's sooo cuuuute and tiny and classy, let's get one. (It's too often the exact same line of thought for, say, wolf-dogs or weird exotics. Chimpanzees? Why, I loved Curious George when I was a kid! And Michael Jackson had one! MICHAEL JACKSON!) Boom, vet bills all over the place if you're lucky enough to have gone for the puppy. (And horrifying surgical procedures if you're the unfortunate soul who went for the chimp.) Ideally, the solution would be to educate the people doing the buying, and in doing so put the sellers out of business. But the saddest part of it all is that when someone is emotionally wrapped up in getting their squee adowaboo animal, they also utterly refuse education. They'll feed you a bunch of supposed signs that this "breeder" is legitimate, they'll claim you're flat-out lying or reading bad sources, they'll brush you off as an extremist nutjob. Whatever mental gymnastics they have to do to avoid admitting that they should not get the animal, they'll do. And it's the animals who suffer because of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 10:57:10 GMT -5
So true, Chains.
Makes me want to send that article to every single person who are swooning over those pups on Facebook. Seriously.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 14:59:07 GMT -5
So...what about the dogs themselves? They still deserve a good life even if they were bred like this. Someone might just want to get one to save it from the horrid conditions of puppy mills. And of course, buying just helps the puppy mills, which makes people who really care consider stealing them (when I first heard about puppy mills, my first thought was to kidnap all the dogs just so they could be adopted out to good homes). I think the best solution is to illegalize the puppy mill and relocate their dogs to animal shelters. That way no one is manipulated into supporting such things or thievery. I did look up "teacup kittens" and found this: www.purringangelscattery.com/It seems so suspiciously cutesy that I doubt it's legit (by which I mean REALLY caring for the kitties). D'= EDIT: From Royal Teacup Puppies: UGH! D=<
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Post by Killix on May 9, 2012 15:28:10 GMT -5
Yep, it's a scam alright.
These poor ill animals are bred like this on purpose, just to be sold for outrageous prices to ignorant individuals. The animal lives a short life of suffering, and the owner is left with skyhigh vet bills, and a broken heart.
I'm surprised that these breeders haven't been slapped with animal cruelty charges yet.
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Post by Gav on May 9, 2012 20:53:21 GMT -5
(Just waiting for Nim to turn it upside down. ) And there is really no reason for them not to let potential owners view the animals. Anyone looking to buy/adopt a puppy should definitely check them out first, and possibly view the parents if they're home-bred. It's the responsible thing to do. And they require a hefty deposit to do so? It's almost transparent.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 3:13:05 GMT -5
Not letting potential buyers view the puppies before they buy them, reminds me of premature human babies being put into those 'containers' to prevent infections and other nasties, because they are too small to be able to resist these things.
... and since those pups are basically premature, it makes sense that the breeders don't want people visiting. And that alone should make the alarm go off with potential buyers. Because buying a premature pet is asinine.
It's called PREmature for a reason!
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Post by Pacmanite on May 10, 2012 6:05:37 GMT -5
I was looking at the sold puppies list, and saw one of them was sent to Australia! My goodness, that poor creature, they have extremely strict quarantine laws for all animals entering Australia. A friend of mine tried to take their family dog into Australia - it was a labrador and it had worked for the police - and border security detained it in customs for a week. The family kept visiting the dog and bringing it bones and things to eat and chew. And it died in customs. I just wonder about that teacup puppy. If it really was sold and sent to Australia, it's rather likely to have died in the airport. What a complete and utter waste of life, and so much money. Not to mention, if it was flown all the way from the US, that's the kind of trip that would take upwards of 24 hours. A premature puppy in a container on a long-haul flight... my goodness. It was probably a goner by the time it reached the continent.
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Post by Kai on May 10, 2012 12:00:52 GMT -5
it died in customs???!! what the heck?! did the people there not give it water or food?? cant they get sued for that?
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Post by Pacmanite on May 11, 2012 14:23:50 GMT -5
it died in customs???!! what the heck?! did the people there not give it water or food?? cant they get sued for that? I'm not sure how the friend's labrador died, my friend seemed to be saying that they didn't feed it enough, but she would have been kind of young at the time and so I'm not sure if she had all the details. In any case, one would think that a healthy dog should be expected to survive for a week in good care, but something went wrong here. Lesson: Don't try to fly a dog into Australia. Least of all, a vulnerable and weak puppy.
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