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Post by PFA on Jun 19, 2009 22:59:49 GMT -5
Well whatever we do, I insist we keep the shiny banners Strife made. Like Killix mentioned, probably like linking banners on the hub thread. :3
I like the idea of one hub thread, BTW. With links to all the different guilds' HQ threads and whatnot. In response to Wolf's suggestion of having different categories, we wouldn't even need to make different threads for that--we could just have different posts in one thread, like one post be for HQs, another for RPs, etc.
Though as a slight objection to the idea of more non-RP activities, particularly referring to the guild-specific ones... those tend to die off just as fast if not faster than the RPs do. XD; I mean, I myself have made a number of non-RP threads in the Ninja guild, and not a one of them is active right now. Admittedly, most of what I ever churn out is small stuff like word games, but I know some of the larger ones *coughpiratepuzzlecough* have gone pretty dead, too.
I suppose a pretty obvious solution to such a problem is to recruit all the inactive members to come back to the guild, buuuut... I know for a fact that the Ninjas have done that exact thing several times, and there the guild still lies mostly inactive (aside from Shoi's latest threads). XD; And to be honest, I'm not really convinced that changing the boards around is going to get rid of that inactivity.
And, uhhhh, I'm not exactly sure what my point is anymore, I'm just rambling now. XD
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Post by Huntress on Jun 20, 2009 3:22:16 GMT -5
Rephrase: Instead of eating all sixteen cookies now, eat one or two and see if your palette's up for another one. That way, we don't put all ours cookies in one basket and risk the Big Bad Wolf stealing them all while we walk to Grandma Hunty's house. ;] If the Big Bad Wolf stole the cookies meant for me, I'd chase him across the forest with a shotgun, you know I would >> Well, it seems to me that this whole sticky discussion is a mite preemptive. We don't know for sure what the guildly activity is going to be like in the long run. There's bound to be some heightened activity shortly after the changes, and it's bound to mellow down after a while, and we don't know what this place might look like in half a year. If there was a steady stream of new active threads, many stickies get annoying, yep. If the dominant tendency is a few long active threads like the GWs, many stickies wouldn't be a problem. In either case, anything we do can always be changed later (okay, in this forum changes always mean longwinded and rambly discussions before anything gets done, but, um, anything still can be changed xD) |
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Post by Kat on Jun 20, 2009 3:38:02 GMT -5
*only found this now*
To be honest, I've been pretty inactive guild-wise, and I'm one of the few people who have maxed out their guild quota (in short, I've already joined three and they currently take up more than half my badge space). I don't know what'll happen next, but if you guys want changes made, then I don't mind seeing them made and giving feedback if I have the time.
In short, Kat was too lazy to read anything besides a few posts and the first one but doesn't mind the mods poking around the guilds board because it's their job and who knows, it could turn out the way we want it to.
I almost feel entirely responsible for the guilds dying. XD
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Post by Stal on Jun 20, 2009 11:48:33 GMT -5
That's something else. Should the quota on guilds you can join stay?
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Post by Killix on Jun 20, 2009 15:47:45 GMT -5
*throws her unbiased two cents into the pot, again* Never understood the need for guild quota after we got rid of the guild secretness thing. I say ditch it, and let anyone join as many guilds as they want. XD If it gets too cluttery, too, we could add a sub-board like Splatterboard's Dramatis Personae. I've got an idea... why not just USE Dramatis Personae? Everyone who already has a thread can simply throw up a Guild info post on it, and everyone who doesn't have a thread there... can make one? XD That makes sense and is convenient 'cause that board already exists. No need to create moar. |
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Post by Vapor on Jun 20, 2009 18:52:21 GMT -5
I've got an idea... why not just USE Dramatis Personae? Everyone who already has a thread and simply throw up a Guild info post on it, and everyone who doesn't... can make one? XD That makes sense and is convenient 'cause that board already exists. No need to create moar. I already sort of use that board for mine, because the version on the Mage board is ramble-y, so I posted a better version on Dramatis Personae recently and I linked to the new one. *shrugs* |
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Post by Elcie on Jun 20, 2009 20:39:43 GMT -5
That's something else. Should the quota on guilds you can join stay? To be honest, I don't see why it should. That sort of thing seems to naturally moderate itself - people naturally kind of gravitate toward having a "main" guild anyway, and it's impossible (or at least really really hard) to be active in six guilds all at once, so.  The people who are capable of keeping their activity up in multiple guilds should do it. A lot of the inter-guild activities that have been proposed, unlike GW, seem to require people to choose one guild to participate for. So... instead of a three-guild limit, perhaps one's choice of "main guild" could be made formal? All I mean by this is that one would need to make their choice public (maybe in guild rosters) though of course they could change whenever they feel like it. That would make it easier for organizers to, say, figure out how many participants each guild really has. If a guild has ten members, but six of them are all more inclined to ally with a different guild, a roster wouldn't really tell us that at the moment. |
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Post by Vyt: Down, but Not Out on Jun 21, 2009 0:56:45 GMT -5
Apparently, I came way too late to realize that this was not just any thread posted in the Guild boards at all. I kept thinking it was just a silly roleplaying thingamajig. I can't be bothered to read all the posts, but I managed to skim through a lot of pages to make up my opinion on this matter.
Gone are the times when the hottest activities of the forum were split between the Splatterboards and the Guild boards. It seemed like some unknown circumstances (or perhaps even just plain boredom) killed the energy that circled around the boards-
Cut to the chase, Vyt. I hate chitter-chatter.
... Well anyway, I strongly support the guild threads, as the current sub-boards have that sort of negative "we're here, so you can't come" aura on it. Sure, the sub-boards were publicly opened, but the knowledge that a certain sub-board is a nest for a certain group of people is a bit daunting to one's mind.
I just thought that there is nothing to blame for the sudden lack of interest in the guild. Like one of the rules in a site I used to go say, "a win eventually turns to fail." Not aggravating that the entire Guild board has succumbed to the dark pits of passing fad, but the possibilities of people turning their attention to other things cannot be eliminated.
That being said, I am looking forward to what will be the best solution to this. I can't wait to see the rejuvenation of the activities among guilds, one way or another.
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Post by Cyborg on Jun 21, 2009 10:41:33 GMT -5
Well see the whole choosing a main guild can prove to be a problem for certain people, myself included. I am active in all the Guilds I'm in. I've rallied and restarted the Mercs (before they died again), joined the Fleet and started to look around and post a little in there, and Knights I have joined the Rps help come up with some ideas for new boards and such. So choosing one main guild isn't possible for me, as I favor them equally, and am active in each. So I think that may be problamatic fo others in my situation.
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Post by Elcie on Jun 21, 2009 21:28:34 GMT -5
Well see the whole choosing a main guild can prove to be a problem for certain people, myself included. I am active in all the Guilds I'm in. I've rallied and restarted the Mercs (before they died again), joined the Fleet and started to look around and post a little in there, and Knights I have joined the Rps help come up with some ideas for new boards and such. So choosing one main guild isn't possible for me, as I favor them equally, and am active in each. So I think that may be problamatic fo others in my situation. It's true that you are crazy active. XD So people like you might not want to choose a main guild. But it's also true that it'll make it difficult or impossible to participate in the non-RPing inter-guild contests, judging by the rules of the activities Fraze and Twocents have started developing. So, you know. I suppose you wouldn't have to if you don't want to, but for those of us who want to participate in those activities, having our choice posted somewhere visible will be helpful. |
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Post by Huntress on Jun 22, 2009 9:47:18 GMT -5
I'd probably still support the three-guilds-max limit, if for no other reason than because being able to participate in all guilds rather defeats the point of the guilds. Rivalries are the underlying narrative of this whole guild-show, after all. I like complicated double-alliances as much as the next person, but if a person was able to join each and every guild, it'd turn into less of a conflict and more of a farce. *muses* Not that I foresee it happening, because being active enough in a single guild to make any significant impact is srs bsns and therefore, the more guilds you're in, the bigger the chance that you won't actually make a real impact in any of them, so in the end it probably wouldn't matter. It's that 'jack of all trades, master of none' effect.
Long story short, I'm kinda indifferent, but if you're a Knight, chances are I won't let you join the pirates anyway x3 (no, the current pirate-knights don't count, they've been around before I became captain.)
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Post by Cyborg on Jun 22, 2009 12:03:43 GMT -5
I agree with Hunty, if we let people join too many Guilds it would, like Hunty stated, be defeating the prupose of the Guilds.
Elcy- Yes I'm crazy active, but I do see your point. I guess I could just stay neutral, or just do the eenni meeni miini mo or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 16:21:52 GMT -5
Long story short, I'm kinda indifferent, but if you're a Knight, chances are I won't let you join the pirates anyway x3 (no, the current pirate-knights don't count, they've been around before I became captain.) Excuse me? Well, I had no plans for becoming a Pirate anyways, but it should be known that the children of my horse are also the children of a horse belonging to a defunct Pirate captain. That could complicate our relationship. As for multi-guilders who don't want to declare a main guild, maybe they could compete in each event for just one guild? That would also add a wild card element to the fold, since everyone who belongs to multiple guilds could feasibly compete for multiple guilds at the same time, no one knowing who they'll support in each event until it's underway. Perhaps it might be complicated if everyone does it, but otherwise, it could be pretty fun. I can imagine it now: Wolf: We've got three wins already. If we can win this last event, we'll win the cup. *elsewhere* Hunty: We're sailing high, blokes. One more win an' we'll 'ave four and steal the cup. *later at the stadium, Kat walks in* Wolf: Kat-- Hunty: --we need you-- Wolf: --on our team-- Hunty: --to win! Kat: ^^" It'd sorta be like recruiting people for Karmageddon. ^_^ |
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Post by Huntress on Jun 22, 2009 16:43:50 GMT -5
Long story short, I'm kinda indifferent, but if you're a Knight, chances are I won't let you join the pirates anyway x3 (no, the current pirate-knights don't count, they've been around before I became captain.) Excuse me? Well, I had no plans for becoming a Pirate anyways, but it should be known that the children of my horse are also the children of a horse belonging to a defunct Pirate captain. That could complicate our relationship. As for multi-guilders who don't want to declare a main guild, maybe they could compete in each event for just one guild? That would also add a wild card element to the fold, since everyone who belongs to multiple guilds could feasibly compete for multiple guilds at the same time, no one knowing who they'll support in each event until it's underway. Perhaps it might be complicated if everyone does it, but otherwise, it could be pretty fun. I can imagine it now: Wolf: We've got three wins already. If we can win this last event, we'll win the cup. *elsewhere* Hunty: We're sailing high, blokes. One more win an' we'll 'ave four and steal the cup. *later at the stadium, Kat walks in* Wolf: Kat-- Hunty: --we need you-- Wolf: --on our team-- Hunty: --to win! Kat: ^^" It'd sorta be like recruiting people for Karmageddon. ^_^ Never said I approved of the relationship xD I just can't much argue with Shiva. And see, if you'd been more active in GW2, you'd know that Cap'n Hunty hates Knights with a passion (it's that whole 'you lot put up wanted posters and chase us when we're trying to loot peacefully, you do-gooders' thing). S'why I asploded your castle back on the days. And I also made a point of keeping the entire pirate guild together, regardless of any double alliances anyone had and in the end had pretty much the entire show under my paw, but hey, all's fair in war and love and gathering taxes.Other than that, wildcards sound like fun xD (Up until I discover that Kat's been doublecrossing me, anyway.) And 'blokes' is British talk, pirate-talk is 'mates' >> |
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Post by Stal on Jun 22, 2009 16:55:09 GMT -5
I don't think the limits should be imposed across the board as much as left up to individual guild leaders.
Say, a Thieve's Guild (it's a good generic example--hush). This could be more a brotherhood of sorts. You'd have people who affiliate themselves with Ninja, with Mercs, with Pirates, etc, working as also part of a thieve's guild. It doesn't take place of a main guild, mind you, but you can join and have the added protection of thieving brotherhood and the resources that would come with it. But I'm sure the Thieves' Magistrate would not want Knights joining in...
Maybe others would say "Eh, you have too many loyalties. I don't trust ya and don't want you around."
But the whole thing with multiple personae anyhow... what if someone had a few separate characters they wanted to portray, but only one in any particular guild?
But yeah, I'm pretty much indifferent as to keeping/leaving it. But getting rid of it is part of the whole deregulation aspect and would let guilds get back to handling these things themselves. Like their membership...
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The people who are capable of keeping their activity up in multiple guilds should do it.
