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Post by Bacon on Feb 14, 2008 23:50:38 GMT -5
Okay, so I was reading through this board, and I'm like "Chasers? What the heck are those? Ven? Who's that? Aqua? Terra? Huh? Wait what? Huh? etc. etc." so yeah.... is there a Kingdom Hearts wiki that I could poke through in my spare time? A KH wiki? I think I've come across one of those... I know the Final Fantasy Wiki has some info on KH, but I don't know if it has everything you're looking for. Looking for KH wiki now, I'll edit if and when I find it... EDIT: Found it: kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Main_PageBTW, the Final Fantasy one I mentioned is finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
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Post by Nature on Feb 15, 2008 8:19:56 GMT -5
If you imagined the Kingdom Hearts characters as Neopets, what would they be? I did that too many times (*glomps Lupe!Demyx and Bori!Roxas*) and well, I just want to know what you guys imagine them as. :3
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Post by Elcie on Feb 15, 2008 15:55:44 GMT -5
Hmm interesting. Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever done that with KH characters... I'll have to give that some thought. X3 I got carried away on another thread about this, so I feel like rambling about the KH soundtrack. XD I really, really adore this soundtrack, for those of you who haven't figured that out already. XD;;; Mostly of course it's the nostalgia, but... I think Yoko Shimomura did an amazing job portraying the very heart (no pun intended) of the game and its characters through the music. That's not an easy thing to do. Call me strange, but it is really fun to analyze this soundtrack, especially in the context of themes. In my personal opinion, for example, "Another Side" (the KH:FM secret ending theme) really is the soul of Kingdom Hearts II, especially the Organization. Most of the themes in that song were woven through the music of the second game. It really makes you think about how much the "Fate of the Unknown" and "Sunset Horizons" themes (KH2:FM+ and KH2 secret endings, respectively) reflect stuff that's going to happen in the next generation of KH, particularly in the PSP game Birth By Sleep. (Listening to them while you speculate about different theories is really very awesome. I think it helps. <3) It's likely that at least "Fate of the Unknown" includes what will become prominent themes of Birth By Sleep, since the Terra boss battle music ("Rage Awakened") includes some of the "Fate of the Unknown" themes. What strikes me as most interesting about "Fate of the Unknown" in particular (and yes, Rage Awakened as well) is the futuristic sound of it. It's a bit ironic, since those particular characters are all from the past, and yet the music still has that feeling to it. It makes me really excited about what the game itself is going to be like. To be honest, the first time I saw those two secret endings I was a bit nervous, since the overall feel was so completely different from Deep Dive and Another Side, Another Story... but I'm pretty happy now. ^^ It's not going to be Organization XIII, and it's unlikely that I'll be as completely in love with the Chasers (or whoever) as I am with my beloved Organization, but... man it'll be awesome. I still adore Kingdom Hearts anything, and I'm looking forward to a little more insight on Xehanort's past - something I've speculated on to death. Contrasting character themes is also fun. Of all the character themes which were created as such by Shimamura, I'd say that Riku's or Namine's are my favorites. Also, I can't help but see Zexion in "Castle Oblivion" and Axel in "The 13th Struggle" - which is odd. It's easy to see why I associate Axel with "Struggle," but I still have no idea why "Castle Oblivion" makes me think Zexi in particular... XD It's very interesting, though, to compare some of the themes - Roxas and Sora/Kairi and Namine, or Sora, Riku and Kairi. What stands out the most? Sora is awesomely happy. XDDD No, seriously, his character theme is the most optimistic and heroic out of all of them. Roxas and Riku are melancholy, Kairi and Namine are sweet and gentle... but Sora's is just like one big "^__^" face. Hard to imagine a theme that would fit him better. Ha! I'm sorry, I rambled just a bit. X3 But I'd love to get some soundtrack discussion going. If you wanna hear the things I was talking about, I'd advise streaming them from here: bluelaguna.net/music/kingdom-hearts-complete-soundtrack/mp3s.phpNot, of course, that I endorse illegal downloading. >_> Especially of this soundtrack. If you like the soundtrack, go and buy it and support the awesomeness of Shimomura and everyone else who produced it. <333 *gets off soapbox* *cough* But um, yeah, you should watch the secret endings to get the full effect of Sunset Horizons, Another Side and Fate of the Unknown. That is all. Edit: ..... OH YEAH. If there is anyone who reads Japanese, I would be very, very appreciative of a translation of the composer's notes found in the KH Complete OST booklet. Or, if anyone knows where to find those online, it would be nice if they could direct me there.... :3
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Post by Fam 1741 on Feb 16, 2008 0:59:45 GMT -5
Okay, so I was reading through this board, and I'm like "Chasers? What the heck are those? Ven? Who's that? Aqua? Terra? Huh? Wait what? Huh? etc. etc." so yeah.... is there a Kingdom Hearts wiki that I could poke through in my spare time? A KH wiki? I think I've come across one of those... I know the Final Fantasy Wiki has some info on KH, but I don't know if it has everything you're looking for. Looking for KH wiki now, I'll edit if and when I find it... EDIT: Found it: kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Main_PageBTW, the Final Fantasy one I mentioned is finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Main_PageOoh, thanks a whole ton! *is going to spend weekend on that probably* and the FF one will be intresting too!
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Post by Nature on Feb 20, 2008 6:41:31 GMT -5
I've been a really big fan of Org. XIII lately (considering the number of Org-related fanart I posted here, I'm weird. XD) and now, I just want one question answered - what happened to Org. XIII after they died? Are they in a next life? Did they gain hearts? Are they in some sort of limbo of eternal darkness? Were they redeemed? Did they go somewhere? Did they turn into anything? What happens tho them? This is a tribute to our favorite set of Heartless Nobodies . . . may they rest in peace.. . . *chakram'd* >_<
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Post by Ikkin on Feb 22, 2008 12:34:03 GMT -5
I've been a really big fan of Org. XIII lately (considering the number of Org-related fanart I posted here, I'm weird. XD) and now, I just want one question answered - what happened to Org. XIII after they died? Are they in a next life? Did they gain hearts? Are they in some sort of limbo of eternal darkness? Were they redeemed? Did they go somewhere? Did they turn into anything? What happens tho them? This is a tribute to our favorite set of Heartless Nobodies . . . may they rest in peace.. . . *chakram'd* >_< From the "Director's Secret Report XIII" section of Kingdom Hearts Another Report.So, basically, if the Heartless is destroyed before the Nobody, the heart that was waiting in stasis will rejoin its body and the Nobody's Other will return. If the Nobody is destroyed before the Heartless, it's less clear, but if the Heartless is destroyed afterwards, the Other might be able to return, as well. Which basically means that we'll probably end up fighting Xehanort in KHIII. XD And that we could see the Others of any number of members of the Organization. The numbering amuses me, though, because they just had to go and pick Axel's number. Considering what I've heard about something Namine said about Axel in the KH novels, I have to wonder if it's coincidence.
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Post by Elcie on Feb 22, 2008 15:48:02 GMT -5
I've been a really big fan of Org. XIII lately (considering the number of Org-related fanart I posted here, I'm weird. XD) and now, I just want one question answered - what happened to Org. XIII after they died? Are they in a next life? Did they gain hearts? Are they in some sort of limbo of eternal darkness? Were they redeemed? Did they go somewhere? Did they turn into anything? What happens tho them? This is a tribute to our favorite set of Heartless Nobodies . . . may they rest in peace.. . . *chakram'd* >_< From the "Director's Secret Report XIII" section of Kingdom Hearts Another Report.So, basically, if the Heartless is destroyed before the Nobody, the heart that was waiting in stasis will rejoin its body and the Nobody's Other will return. If the Nobody is destroyed before the Heartless, it's less clear, but if the Heartless is destroyed afterwards, the Other might be able to return, as well. Which basically means that we'll probably end up fighting Xehanort in KHIII. XD And that we could see the Others of any number of members of the Organization. The numbering amuses me, though, because they just had to go and pick Axel's number. Considering what I've heard about something Namine said about Axel in the KH novels, I have to wonder if it's coincidence. Ooooh. That's interesting. ... ohhhhh. I might be able to revive Spirits of the Dawn, in that case. >___>; It was an Org-resurrection story, but it so heavily involved Chasers/Knights speculation that I had to scrap it once Terra, Aqua and Ven were revealed. But maybe I could use this canon data to put a new spin on things. Maaybe.
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Post by Nature on Feb 24, 2008 23:50:28 GMT -5
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Post by Ikkin on Feb 26, 2008 1:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by Nature on Feb 27, 2008 6:03:05 GMT -5
I guess they will. I mean, Chicken Little was there, right? 0_o
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Post by Ikkin on Feb 27, 2008 13:13:27 GMT -5
I guess they will. I mean, Chicken Little was there, right? 0_o
Chicken Little isn't a Pixar character, though. That movie was made by a 3D Disney studio, not Pixar (I think Disney and Pixar had a falling-out around that point so Disney made it themselves or something?). We haven't seen a Pixar character in Kingdom Hearts yet.
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Post by Fraze on Feb 28, 2008 17:24:00 GMT -5
When I saw this in the most recent post thing on the main page, Ikkin's current title (Ikkling) and this thread title combined in my mind, turning it into "The Klingon Hearts Organization."
That is all.
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Post by Nature on Mar 2, 2008 8:06:43 GMT -5
Okay, I know that if you share a Paopu with somebody, your destiny will be intertwined with that person's destiny. But what happens if someone eats one whole Paopu without finishing it? Just wondering. XDDDDDDD
Also, is there anywhere where I can see what the tombstones/altars of the dead Org. XIII members look like? Or just give a description? I'm doing a LarDem fanfic right now, and the graves are an important factor in the story.
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Post by Elcie on Mar 2, 2008 8:35:49 GMT -5
Okay, I know that if you share a Paopu with somebody, your destiny will be intertwined with that person's destiny. But what happens if someone eats one whole Paopu without finishing it? Just wondering. XDDDDDDD
Also, is there anywhere where I can see what the tombstones/altars of the dead Org. XIII members look like? Or just give a description? I'm doing a LarDem fanfic right now, and the graves are an important factor in the story. That is a good question and something I've always wondered. XDDD Suppose a stray dog comes and eats the rest of it? Hee. You're probably thinking of the things in the room called "Proof of Existence" in the World That Never Was. There are twelve panels in this room which glow blue when the Organization member is alive and red when the member is dead - one for each except Xemnas. The panels each show a picture of the Nobody's weapon and tell their title - e.g. Xigbar's says "Freeshooter" and Demyx's says "Melodious Nocturne." Zexion's panel is destroyed (because his weapon wasn't revealed at the time of release) but what's left of it still glows red and says "Cloaked Schemer". Behind each of the panels is a weird... portal thing, which I find hard to describe so you'd best either go there in the game or try to find a picture. But I seem to remember they had the Nobody symbol on them. Anyway... Most of them were broken off, with the exception of - I think - Saix's and Luxord's. When you go through one, you'll end up in a place where that Organization member currently is (and have a boss battle after that). Which I feel dumb because I can't remember the names of those rooms... anyway... it's not important. The point is, I don't believe that the panels and portals in Proof of Existence were meant as tombstones or memorials, the way they're made out to be in a lot of fanfics. It's more likely that they're simply ways to locate the rest of the Organization, since if the portals weren't broken, they'd take you to where that member was. And I don't think the portals necessarily break upon death, because Roxas's was broken and he was still alive, and Saix's and Luxord's don't break when you kill them but just take you back to those same rooms. But this is all theorizing, because no one REALLY knows what the things in Proof of Existence are or what they're supposed to do. X3 It's also possible that the portals take you to the rooms belonging to each member, for instance. (Except Luxord's was a balcony type thing, and it would be weird for him to live on something like that. XD) ... Havoc's Divide. That was one of the rooms. Luxord's. I remember now. But I still can't recall Saix's. I remember Luxie's though, because while reading FMA and playing KH2 at the same time, I was all "lol... Havoc..." XDD
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on Mar 2, 2008 20:45:37 GMT -5
Okay, I know that if you share a Paopu with somebody, your destiny will be intertwined with that person's destiny. But what happens if someone eats one whole Paopu without finishing it? Just wondering. XDDDDDDD
Also, is there anywhere where I can see what the tombstones/altars of the dead Org. XIII members look like? Or just give a description? I'm doing a LarDem fanfic right now, and the graves are an important factor in the story. That is a good question and something I've always wondered. XDDD Suppose a stray dog comes and eats the rest of it? Hee. You're probably thinking of the things in the room called "Proof of Existence" in the World That Never Was. There are twelve panels in this room which glow blue when the Organization member is alive and red when the member is dead - one for each except Xemnas. The panels each show a picture of the Nobody's weapon and tell their title - e.g. Xigbar's says "Freeshooter" and Demyx's says "Melodious Nocturne." Zexion's panel is destroyed (because his weapon wasn't revealed at the time of release) but what's left of it still glows red and says "Cloaked Schemer". Behind each of the panels is a weird... portal thing, which I find hard to describe so you'd best either go there in the game or try to find a picture. But I seem to remember they had the Nobody symbol on them. Anyway... Most of them were broken off, with the exception of - I think - Saix's and Luxord's. When you go through one, you'll end up in a place where that Organization member currently is (and have a boss battle after that). Which I feel dumb because I can't remember the names of those rooms... anyway... it's not important. The point is, I don't believe that the panels and portals in Proof of Existence were meant as tombstones or memorials, the way they're made out to be in a lot of fanfics. It's more likely that they're simply ways to locate the rest of the Organization, since if the portals weren't broken, they'd take you to where that member was. And I don't think the portals necessarily break upon death, because Roxas's was broken and he was still alive, and Saix's and Luxord's don't break when you kill them but just take you back to those same rooms. But this is all theorizing, because no one REALLY knows what the things in Proof of Existence are or what they're supposed to do. X3 It's also possible that the portals take you to the rooms belonging to each member, for instance. (Except Luxord's was a balcony type thing, and it would be weird for him to live on something like that. XD) ... Havoc's Divide. That was one of the rooms. Luxord's. I remember now. But I still can't recall Saix's. I remember Luxie's though, because while reading FMA and playing KH2 at the same time, I was all "lol... Havoc..." XDD Don't take my word for it, necessarily, but I seem to remember the portals -- like so many others in the game -- having a white, semi-glowy center, and purple, black and white waves swirling around it. I think they had a purple "aura" about them, too… again, just what I think I can remember. Also, I haven't played Kingdom Hearts II in so long I can't remember anywhere except the Castle of Naught because it appears in my story arches so much. D: Ahem. Rant over. [o-o]
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