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Post by Ikkin on Mar 19, 2008 21:59:51 GMT -5
Oh gosh. Lexy and Zexy. XDDD The height difference, it KILLS me! Great, now I have a mental image of Zexion riding around piggyback on Lexaeus like Kenpachi and Yachiru. XDDD Except Zexion isn't a hyperactive, pink-haired little girl... but still... heeee xDDDD That mental image... A rather ironic musing about Riku, in KH and KHII: Riku goes through so much in Chain of Memories to try to deal with his inner darkness, and yet... he winds up doing a complete 360 by the beginning of KHII. ...and no, I don't mean that in the "I'm silly and don't realize that doing a 360 would take you right back to where you started" sense. Think about it... In the first KH, Riku's a villain because he gave in to the darkness and went around kidnapping the Disney Princesses, because Maleficent told him he'd be able to wake Kairi up by doing that. In KHII, Riku's a hero because he gave in to the darkness and kidnapped Roxas, because DiZ told him it would wake Sora up. Sure, there's a few rather significant differences - KH Riku was a complete jerk to Sora unnecessarily, and kidnapping Roxas really was necessary for Sora to wake up - but, beyond that, it's basically just the side that changes. It's kind of interesting to think about - both in the "Does Riku realize this and hold it against himself?" sense and in the "Why is it so easy for us to accept KHII Riku's actions as good while KH Riku's very similar actions are clearly wrong" sense.
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Post by Nature on Mar 23, 2008 8:24:21 GMT -5
. . . I learned from this picture that . . . - When they said Lexaeus was a giant, they weren't kidding.
- 'Tis Marly, not Axel, that is the tallest one of the younger members.
- Demyx is taller than Larxene. This is opposed to the usual height that fanartists (new word! ^__^) give them. (So I guess this means that Demdem is older by, let's say, one year. ^_____^ *fangirl squee*)
- Roxas looks about as tall as, well, me. :/ Or probably even taller by a few inches.
- Zexion, unfortunately, isn't the resident pandak kid of the Organization. Larxene's shorter by, um, one to two inches. (That may be the case, but still -- who's older? XD)
- Saix is older than Axel . . . but shorter. :/
- Roxas is officially now the resident pandak kid of Org. XIII.
- Vexen ain't short.
- Demyx is cute even if he's sideways. :3
- Roxas and Zexion have big feet. (Does this indicate age?)
- Xigbar is not as tall as I thought he was.
- Vexen isn't suffering from osteoporosis.
- Nature's a weirdo
- None of them is Mumble. Y'see, they don't have happy feet. XD
- Uh, yeah. I have no more realizations. :/
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Post by Elcie on Mar 23, 2008 13:23:02 GMT -5
. . . I learned from this picture that . . . - When they said Lexaeus was a giant, they weren't kidding.
- 'Tis Marly, not Axel, that is the tallest one of the younger members.
- Demyx is taller than Larxene. This is opposed to the usual height that fanartists (new word! ^__^) give them. (So I guess this means that Demdem is older by, let's say, one year. ^_____^ *fangirl squee*)
- Roxas looks about as tall as, well, me. :/ Or probably even taller by a few inches.
- Zexion, unfortunately, isn't the resident pandak kid of the Organization. Larxene's shorter by, um, one to two inches. (That may be the case, but still -- who's older? XD)
- Saix is older than Axel . . . but shorter. :/
- Roxas is officially now the resident pandak kid of Org. XIII.
- Vexen ain't short.
- Demyx is cute even if he's sideways. :3
- Roxas and Zexion have big feet. (Does this indicate age?)
- Xigbar is not as tall as I thought he was.
- Vexen isn't suffering from osteoporosis.
- Nature's a weirdo
- None of them is Mumble. Y'see, they don't have happy feet. XD
- Uh, yeah. I have no more realizations. :/
I like the fact that Larxene is so short. ...It means it would be REALLY adorable to pair her with Vexen, Lexaeus or Xaldin. ...Yes, I like Larxene/anyone-except-Roxas-or-Demyx. XDDD Although I do like Larxel the best. <3 And the best part of her being shorter than Demyx, in my Organization fanon, is that it makes it that much more funny and adorable that Demyx is terrified of her. XDD I still say that Demyx is second-youngest, just a couple years older than Roxy. ^_^ Larx is just tiny. So, for that matter, is Zexion, because I think he's probably older than Axel and Marly, at least. Which brings up the question: how old do you think the Organization members are, relative to each other? Here's my list from oldest to youngest: - Vexen
- Lexaeus
- Xaldin
- Xemnas
- Xigbar
- Luxord
- Zexion
- Saix
- Marluxia
- Axel
- Larxene
- Demyx
- Roxas
I'd see some of those as interchangeable... but in my mind Vexen is definitely the oldest, Xemnas and Xigbar are about the same age, Zexion is the youngest of the original members, Luxord is the oldest of the younger members, and Demyx is second-youngest. I don't know if it's canon that Vexen is the oldest, or just fanon belief - or if it might have been just that he was the oldest in Castle Oblivion so everyone assumes he's the oldest overall. But he does look oldest to me. But it IS canon that Ienzo was the youngest apprentice, and so Zexion is the youngest of the six of them.
Xehanort was also stated to have been quite young, so I'd say he is either second- or third-youngest among them. I've always seen Braig/Xigbar as being around his age, and so it was probably the fact that Xigbar's just that much more immature that made me put him between Xemnas and Zexion. XDD
Lexaeus could be one of the oldest members, or he might just be really mature for his age. But I put him as second-oldest because in my fanon perception of how the six apprentices were, I always thought Elaeus would have been a quiet, steady big-brother figure to Ienzo, and was several years older.
Xaldin was really hard to place. He and Xigbar are actually probably pretty close to the same age, but I've always seen him as being older somehow.
As for Luxord, not sure why I see him as being so old, but that possibly is because of my idea of his Other as an experienced gambler. Saix.. at first I had him older than Zexion, but I'm not sure why I changed it. *Shrug* just seemed to fit better. But he definitely is older than Axel.
Marly, Axel, and Larxene... the Oblivion conspirators. I see them as being very close to the same age, possibly with only months in difference. And it's really only personalities and size that made me put them in that order - Marly taking charge as much as he did, Axel acting fairly young as he does, and Larxene being so flirtatious that made me put her as the third-youngest member.
Demyx... well. XD I don't think anyone could put him as older than anyone but Roxas and okay, maybe Larxene. XD He seems a great deal more innocent than Larxy, though, and more good-natured, which is why he ranks as the second-youngest member.
And Roxas - it's canon. 'Nuff said. (Though I don't recall if it's exactly stated. I suppose people could make an argument for him being older than or the same age as Demyx, but I don't know if anyone would. He's so short, and even though he's a lot more serious than Demyx, he appears less mature.)
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Post by podgeb on Mar 23, 2008 16:57:50 GMT -5
. . . I learned from this picture that . . . - When they said Lexaeus was a giant, they weren't kidding.
- 'Tis Marly, not Axel, that is the tallest one of the younger members.
- Demyx is taller than Larxene. This is opposed to the usual height that fanartists (new word! ^__^) give them. (So I guess this means that Demdem is older by, let's say, one year. ^_____^ *fangirl squee*)
- Roxas looks about as tall as, well, me. :/ Or probably even taller by a few inches.
- Zexion, unfortunately, isn't the resident pandak kid of the Organization. Larxene's shorter by, um, one to two inches. (That may be the case, but still -- who's older? XD)
- Saix is older than Axel . . . but shorter. :/
- Roxas is officially now the resident pandak kid of Org. XIII.
- Vexen ain't short.
- Demyx is cute even if he's sideways. :3
- Roxas and Zexion have big feet. (Does this indicate age?)
- Xigbar is not as tall as I thought he was.
- Vexen isn't suffering from osteoporosis.
- Nature's a weirdo
- None of them is Mumble. Y'see, they don't have happy feet. XD
- Uh, yeah. I have no more realizations. :/
I like the fact that Larxene is so short. ...It means it would be REALLY adorable to pair her with Vexen, Lexaeus or Xaldin. ...Yes, I like Larxene/anyone-except-Roxas-or-Demyx. XDDD Although I do like Larxel the best. <3 And the best part of her being shorter than Demyx, in my Organization fanon, is that it makes it that much more funny and adorable that Demyx is terrified of her. XDD I still say that Demyx is second-youngest, just a couple years older than Roxy. ^_^ Larx is just tiny. So, for that matter, is Zexion, because I think he's probably older than Axel and Marly, at least. Which brings up the question: how old do you think the Organization members are, relative to each other? Here's my list from oldest to youngest: - Vexen
- Lexaeus
- Xaldin
- Xemnas
- Xigbar
- Luxord
- Zexion
- Saix
- Marluxia
- Axel
- Larxene
- Demyx
- Roxas
I'd see some of those as interchangeable... but in my mind Vexen is definitely the oldest, Xemnas and Xigbar are about the same age, Zexion is the youngest of the original members, Luxord is the oldest of the younger members, and Demyx is second-youngest. I don't know if it's canon that Vexen is the oldest, or just fanon belief - or if it might have been just that he was the oldest in Castle Oblivion so everyone assumes he's the oldest overall. But he does look oldest to me. But it IS canon that Ienzo was the youngest apprentice, and so Zexion is the youngest of the six of them.
Xehanort was also stated to have been quite young, so I'd say he is either second- or third-youngest among them. I've always seen Braig/Xigbar as being around his age, and so it was probably the fact that Xigbar's just that much more immature that made me put him between Xemnas and Zexion. XDD
Lexaeus could be one of the oldest members, or he might just be really mature for his age. But I put him as second-oldest because in my fanon perception of how the six apprentices were, I always thought Elaeus would have been a quiet, steady big-brother figure to Ienzo, and was several years older.
Xaldin was really hard to place. He and Xigbar are actually probably pretty close to the same age, but I've always seen him as being older somehow.
As for Luxord, not sure why I see him as being so old, but that possibly is because of my idea of his Other as an experienced gambler. Saix.. at first I had him older than Zexion, but I'm not sure why I changed it. *Shrug* just seemed to fit better. But he definitely is older than Axel.
Marly, Axel, and Larxene... the Oblivion conspirators. I see them as being very close to the same age, possibly with only months in difference. And it's really only personalities and size that made me put them in that order - Marly taking charge as much as he did, Axel acting fairly young as he does, and Larxene being so flirtatious that made me put her as the third-youngest member.
Demyx... well. XD I don't think anyone could put him as older than anyone but Roxas and okay, maybe Larxene. XD He seems a great deal more innocent than Larxy, though, and more good-natured, which is why he ranks as the second-youngest member.
And Roxas - it's canon. 'Nuff said. (Though I don't recall if it's exactly stated. I suppose people could make an argument for him being older than or the same age as Demyx, but I don't know if anyone would. He's so short, and even though he's a lot more serious than Demyx, he appears less mature.) ... Our cosplay group is SO not canon then xD! I'm the youngest in the group, cosplaying the um, oldest.. in the group @.@! (Even though we still refer to Xemnas as grandpa xD) Our Roxas, however, is 19! One of the oldest members of the group.. xD The oldest member of our group is Axel. She's 20, and... gah! I am SO not right for Vexen. xD What made me laugh even more though was that our old Marly was cosplayed by a male. I mean, in a group made up mainly of girls, the GIRLIEST male was cosplayed by a guy. Ironic, no? xD
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Post by Nature on Mar 24, 2008 5:30:22 GMT -5
. . . I learned from this picture that . . . - When they said Lexaeus was a giant, they weren't kidding.
- 'Tis Marly, not Axel, that is the tallest one of the younger members.
- Demyx is taller than Larxene. This is opposed to the usual height that fanartists (new word! ^__^) give them. (So I guess this means that Demdem is older by, let's say, one year. ^_____^ *fangirl squee*)
- Roxas looks about as tall as, well, me. :/ Or probably even taller by a few inches.
- Zexion, unfortunately, isn't the resident pandak kid of the Organization. Larxene's shorter by, um, one to two inches. (That may be the case, but still -- who's older? XD)
- Saix is older than Axel . . . but shorter. :/
- Roxas is officially now the resident pandak kid of Org. XIII.
- Vexen ain't short.
- Demyx is cute even if he's sideways. :3
- Roxas and Zexion have big feet. (Does this indicate age?)
- Xigbar is not as tall as I thought he was.
- Vexen isn't suffering from osteoporosis.
- Nature's a weirdo
- None of them is Mumble. Y'see, they don't have happy feet. XD
- Uh, yeah. I have no more realizations. :/
I like the fact that Larxene is so short. ...It means it would be REALLY adorable to pair her with Vexen, Lexaeus or Xaldin. ...Yes, I like Larxene/anyone-except-Roxas-or-Demyx. XDDD Although I do like Larxel the best. <3 And the best part of her being shorter than Demyx, in my Organization fanon, is that it makes it that much more funny and adorable that Demyx is terrified of her. XDD I still say that Demyx is second-youngest, just a couple years older than Roxy. ^_^ Larx is just tiny. So, for that matter, is Zexion, because I think he's probably older than Axel and Marly, at least. Which brings up the question: how old do you think the Organization members are, relative to each other? Here's my list from oldest to youngest: - Vexen
- Lexaeus
- Xaldin
- Xemnas
- Xigbar
- Luxord
- Zexion
- Saix
- Marluxia
- Axel
- Larxene
- Demyx
- Roxas
I'd see some of those as interchangeable... but in my mind Vexen is definitely the oldest, Xemnas and Xigbar are about the same age, Zexion is the youngest of the original members, Luxord is the oldest of the younger members, and Demyx is second-youngest. I don't know if it's canon that Vexen is the oldest, or just fanon belief - or if it might have been just that he was the oldest in Castle Oblivion so everyone assumes he's the oldest overall. But he does look oldest to me. But it IS canon that Ienzo was the youngest apprentice, and so Zexion is the youngest of the six of them.
Xehanort was also stated to have been quite young, so I'd say he is either second- or third-youngest among them. I've always seen Braig/Xigbar as being around his age, and so it was probably the fact that Xigbar's just that much more immature that made me put him between Xemnas and Zexion. XDD
Lexaeus could be one of the oldest members, or he might just be really mature for his age. But I put him as second-oldest because in my fanon perception of how the six apprentices were, I always thought Elaeus would have been a quiet, steady big-brother figure to Ienzo, and was several years older.
Xaldin was really hard to place. He and Xigbar are actually probably pretty close to the same age, but I've always seen him as being older somehow.
As for Luxord, not sure why I see him as being so old, but that possibly is because of my idea of his Other as an experienced gambler. Saix.. at first I had him older than Zexion, but I'm not sure why I changed it. *Shrug* just seemed to fit better. But he definitely is older than Axel.
Marly, Axel, and Larxene... the Oblivion conspirators. I see them as being very close to the same age, possibly with only months in difference. And it's really only personalities and size that made me put them in that order - Marly taking charge as much as he did, Axel acting fairly young as he does, and Larxene being so flirtatious that made me put her as the third-youngest member.
Demyx... well. XD I don't think anyone could put him as older than anyone but Roxas and okay, maybe Larxene. XD He seems a great deal more innocent than Larxy, though, and more good-natured, which is why he ranks as the second-youngest member.
And Roxas - it's canon. 'Nuff said. (Though I don't recall if it's exactly stated. I suppose people could make an argument for him being older than or the same age as Demyx, but I don't know if anyone would. He's so short, and even though he's a lot more serious than Demyx, he appears less mature.) Ummmm . . . for me, things are different . . . What I think the Org. members' EXACT ages are . . . - Xemnas - 37
- Xigbar - 35
- Xaldin - 36 (Younger by a few months than Wolf-man)
- Vexen - 40
- Lexaeus - 39
- Zexion - 17
- Saix - 36
- Axel - 25
- Demyx - 22 (Ryan O' Donohue is about 24 right now . . .)
- Luxord - 28
- Marluxia - 27
- Larxene - 21
- Roxas - 15 (This is confirmed. >_>)
- Namine - 15 also.
So, arranged from eldest to youngest . . . - Vexen
- Lexaeus
- Xemnas
- Saix
- Xaldin
- Xigbar
- Luxord
- Marluxia
- Axel
- Demyx
- Larxene
- Zexion
- Roxas
- Namine (Younger by a few months than Pandak Kid)
>____> First question . . . I noticed that in the height picture Ikkin showed us, both Roxas and Zexion have big feet. (Roxas' feet is bigger.) Is this supposed to indicate age? I mean, Sora, Kairi and Riku have big feet . . . >_>
Second question . . . what happens when someone finishes a paopu by himself without sharing it with anyone? Just asking. >_>
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Post by Bacon on Mar 24, 2008 9:32:51 GMT -5
Second question . . . what happens when someone finishes a paopu by himself without sharing it with anyone? Just asking. >_> No matter what happens, his destiny will forever by intertwined with himself.
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Post by Nature on Apr 3, 2008 11:22:51 GMT -5
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Post by Elcie on Apr 4, 2008 15:15:45 GMT -5
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Post by Nature on Apr 4, 2008 21:56:23 GMT -5
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Post by Bacon on Apr 9, 2008 11:33:53 GMT -5
Do you know what I just realized yesterday? The first trio of Square-original main characters, Sora, Riku, and Kairi, all have "r" in their names, the second trio, Axel, Roxas, and Namine, all have "a" in their names, but the newest trio, Ven, Terra and Aqua, don't have any letters common to the three names! What could this mean?
Also, all Oganization XIII members have a letter in common- *chakram'd* x_O I was kidding!!
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Post by Nature on Apr 10, 2008 1:51:49 GMT -5
Do you know what I just realized yesterday? The first trio of Square-original main characters, Sora, Riku, and Kairi, all have "r" in their names, the second trio, Axel, Roxas, and Namine, all have "a" in their names, but the newest trio, Ven, Terra and Aqua, don't have any letters common to the three names! What could this mean? Also, all Oganization XIII members have a letter in common- *chakram'd* x_O I was kidding!! 0_o Whoa, that's strange. *sigh* And of course the Organization members have a letter in common! X has a very strong symbolism when it comes to Org. XIII, but, what does it mean, I wonder? Incompleteness, maybe?
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Post by Ikkin on Apr 10, 2008 22:19:21 GMT -5
Do you know what I just realized yesterday? The first trio of Square-original main characters, Sora, Riku, and Kairi, all have "r" in their names, the second trio, Axel, Roxas, and Namine, all have "a" in their names, but the newest trio, Ven, Terra and Aqua, don't have any letters common to the three names! What could this mean? Also, all Oganization XIII members have a letter in common- *chakram'd* x_O I was kidding!! 0_o Whoa, that's strange. *sigh* And of course the Organization members have a letter in common! X has a very strong symbolism when it comes to Org. XIII, but, what does it mean, I wonder? Incompleteness, maybe? It is kind of odd, but it might be coincidence. XD Riku, Kairi, and Sora are Japanese for Land, Sea, and Sky; Terra, Aqua, and Ven are Latin for Earth, Water, and Air. Roxas is an anagram+X of Sora, and Namine is Japanese for Wave (taking the water symbolism again); Axel's name doesn't seem to have any particular origin. In all cases but Axel's, though, there's clearly a different motivation for the naming besides getting in the same letters - particularly since in all but Roxas and Axel's case, there wasn't much English influence and therefore the lettering thing might not have even been thought of, since Japanese doesn't use our alphabet normally. As for what the X represents... probably just "nothingness" or "nothing."
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Post by Nature on Apr 13, 2008 21:44:58 GMT -5
In Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ (Yes, I have it), you can sometimes see an Absent Silhouette, a remnant of a dead Org. member from CoM floating around somewhere in a world, which leads to an optional boss battle with that certain Org. member. It's funny, because during play, I found Larxene's kunais . . . in Port Royal.
Oh boy, the Pirates guild and the Ninjas guild won't be happy about this. >_>
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Post by PFA on May 9, 2008 13:59:01 GMT -5
*revives* *DIES REPEATEDLY OF 'SHIPPERGASM* <33333
First they have to show the whole bit with Kairi finding the Sora/Kairi doodle (which made me 'AWWWWW' out loud), and then in the credits they attack me with Cloud/Aeris (*still prefers Aeris to Aerith*)... and the other 'shippy bits... HOW MUCH DO THEY THINK MY 'SHIPPER HEART CAN HANDLLLEEE?! D: *squirms in sheer 'shippy delight*
Also, methinks Ansem likes darkness too much. XDDD
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Post by Elcie on May 9, 2008 15:59:39 GMT -5
*revives* *DIES REPEATEDLY OF 'SHIPPERGASM* <33333
First they have to show the whole bit with Kairi finding the Sora/Kairi doodle (which made me 'AWWWWW' out loud), and then in the credits they attack me with Cloud/Aeris (*still prefers Aeris to Aerith*)... and the other 'shippy bits... HOW MUCH DO THEY THINK MY 'SHIPPER HEART CAN HANDLLLEEE?! D: *squirms in sheer 'shippy delight*
Also, methinks Ansem likes darkness too much. XDDD Ansem/Darkness ship? =D
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