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Post by Kengplant on Apr 23, 2005 21:07:47 GMT -5
Guys, great news! I just stole recieved a truckload of brain bleach! *grabs a sword out of no where/from behind her back, jumps on her giant deaver and raids the truck* *stops* Oh wait.. are you offering it to us?
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Post by DEL! on Apr 23, 2005 22:36:15 GMT -5
I didn't use Del's pictures, as they were too late to include in the finished calendar. Good to see that all my art was good for was getting the mods upset with me. :/ Remind me to not bother with NTWF bandwagons ever again. >_<
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Post by auntfalcor on Apr 23, 2005 22:48:35 GMT -5
Good to see that all my art was good for was getting the mods upset with me. :/ Remind me to not bother with NTWF bandwagons ever again. >_< I found it humourous. Don't take it personally because a few mods don't have a sense of humor and want to be anal about it. And no, I don't have a problem with wanting to keep this site family-friendly, but the pictures weren't any worse than most of the calender pics, and it's a bit hypocritical to disallow what you posted and then turn around and allow nekkid Usuls and demi-gods and snow faeries. *waits to get angry messages from po'd mods* Just my opinion, folks.
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Post by Crystal on Apr 23, 2005 23:16:02 GMT -5
I found it humourous. Don't take it personally because a few mods don't have a sense of humor and want to be anal about it. And no, I don't have a problem with wanting to keep this site family-friendly, but the pictures weren't any worse than most of the calender pics, and it's a bit hypocritical to disallow what you posted and then turn around and allow nekkid Usuls and demi-gods and snow faeries. *waits to get angry messages from po'd mods* Just my opinion, folks. Well, obviously if I were to get angry about this message I would define myself as a po'd mod without a sense of humor who wants to be anal about it. Therefore I will not be angry. That said, Del has already discussed this with Kiddo and I don't think I will go much further into the subject. But yes, we were aware that we were rather hypocritical about it to some degree (certainly I was and am), but we had to draw the line SOMETIME. It was turning into too much of a race to brain bleach other people out. Just to let you know, we try not to act individually when it comes to things like this. This post is done of my own account, but when it was about larger things like the NTWF calender and so on, we discuss them and actions are rarely taken without the agreement of at least the majority. Yes, I found it humorous too, but I'm somewhat desensitized to this kind of thing. If Del had posted them on Livejournal or DA I'd have got a kick out of it. However, if my father walked past my computer, after I persuaded him to let me go on forums because this one was family friendly, I don't think I'd have enjoyed getting banned from NTWF. The other pictures were url-linked and that made it a bit more safe, but Del's went a little too close to the line (consider it a compliment, Del ) and we decided we had to make that line clear. It was nothing personal meant against her either, as it was obvious sooner or later one of the pictures would, and she just happened to be the one. That's all.
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Post by DEL! on Apr 24, 2005 2:52:51 GMT -5
Well, obviously if I were to get angry about this message I would define myself as a po'd mod without a sense of humor who wants to be anal about it. Therefore I will not be angry. That said, Del has already discussed this with Kiddo and I don't think I will go much further into the subject. But yes, we were aware that we were rather hypocritical about it to some degree (certainly I was and am), but we had to draw the line SOMETIME. It was turning into too much of a race to brain bleach other people out. Just to let you know, we try not to act individually when it comes to things like this. This post is done of my own account, but when it was about larger things like the NTWF calender and so on, we discuss them and actions are rarely taken without the agreement of at least the majority. Yes, I found it humorous too, but I'm somewhat desensitized to this kind of thing. If Del had posted them on Livejournal or DA I'd have got a kick out of it. However, if my father walked past my computer, after I persuaded him to let me go on forums because this one was family friendly, I don't think I'd have enjoyed getting banned from NTWF. The other pictures were url-linked and that made it a bit more safe, but Del's went a little too close to the line (consider it a compliment, Del ;)) and we decided we had to make that line clear. It was nothing personal meant against her either, as it was obvious sooner or later one of the pictures would, and she just happened to be the one. That's all. My art was behind text URLs to my Photobucket account. You cannot say that I made the NTWF any less work-safe than any of the other pics did. Especially when one considers the fact that, prior to my contribution, all the other art was directly posted in the dialogue content. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, I was the one who initially suggested the placing of the art behind the text URLs earlier in this very thread. And if you are refering to the fact that, also earlier in this thread, the link to my art is directly linked to the mirror of it in my own LJ, that was only changed after my thread was removed here and I was asked by some what happened to my artwork. It was originally linked to the thread I created to debut my sketches. And if that is the issue, consider the link gone. I shall deal with it directly after completing this response. And I'm beginning to question the merits of staying in a forum where you get in trouble for your artistic skills. Because all I'm hearing right now is, "Your art was axed because it was drawn too well." I will not justify my art. I will not rationalize it, nor try to argue that what I drew was not of the "questionable" variety. I accept full responsibility of what I drew and acknowledge the fact that it was a bit...out there, perhaps even more so than all the others posted before it. And even though I will admit my twisted competitive nature got into the act somewhat by attempting to out-OMG the others, I will not pass the blame of what I drew. I accept the full brunt of that. But neither will I apoligize for it. It still seems unfair to me that, of all the other artists, only I am the one who gets publically chastized and shamed in front of the rest of the forum. And even though none of the mods actually posted anything along the lines of, "DEL! is sick, twisted and her work is unfit for this forum and we shall make it all known the rest here at NTWF," you did so well enough in your own passive ways of removing my artwork while all the rest that preceded it remains untouched. You know what we call that 'round my parts? A double-standard. Sure, you can post your nude pics of Skarrl and Sloth, just so long as it's not DEL! doing it; she's not allowed to play with us because she's a sick freak. That's all I'm picking up here. When I originally discussed this with Kiddo, I said that I wasn't offended and or bothered by the actions taken against my art. But the more I think about it, the more I realize that, y'know what, I am. No, not offended. Hurt. Heart-broken even. I realize now that I AM unfit for this forum. Not too good for it, just...unfit. what with being singled out and used as an example to all the others as an artist gone wrong, someone who uses her ablities and skills for the wrong reasons. I hate to say this right out and run the risk of being construed as a drama queen, but I think the best course of action right now is to just simply pack up my pencils, my paper, my porn and my pathetic cardboard wings and just go for awhile. I'm sorry to have ever darkened your doorstep here at NTWF. I wish you all the best. I'll probably come back after just taking a breather and clearing my head a bit. That is, if you'll have me and my filth-encrusted self. If not, that's fine too. It's your forum, not mine.
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Post by Patjade on Apr 24, 2005 4:20:10 GMT -5
OK, I think that's enough. DEL!, If anyone targeted your art for being too much, then I apologize. It should not have happened.
As a matter of fact, all the artwork that has been presented was very good.
The problem, to my sight, was two-fold:
1. The age group of the majority of people who frequent the NTWF. I did not want to have a lot of parents think that the NTWF was mostly about pinups.
2. The hard-fought reputation of the NTWF in concert with the Neopets Staff. I did not want to see our credibility damaged because some people got carried away.
I admit I liked the art I saw. You guys do what I can only dream of doing. I have no talent. But I have to consider the overall scheme.
People got caught up in the calendar ferver, and nobody was really above guilt. That includes several of the Mods, and I take responsibility for it all.
I am sorry for all the hurt feelings that came of this. I am really sorry.
If there is anything I can do to help fix this, please let me know.
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Post by Crystal on Apr 24, 2005 6:38:02 GMT -5
And if I hurt ya, Del, it was without intention to do so and I apologize... a lot... as well.
*sticks hands in pockets and shuffles sadly off*
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Post by auntfalcor on Apr 24, 2005 15:25:28 GMT -5
Aww Please don't leave...
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Post by Killix on Apr 24, 2005 15:28:36 GMT -5
I must've missed something in my four day absence. u_u;; I'd add my two cents, but I have nooo idea what's going on. XD
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Post by Snowflake on Apr 29, 2005 10:24:39 GMT -5
Well, I got the b-day calendar today. Thank you to everyone who worked on this. The pictures really made me laugh. Thanks for making my day! Everyone in the office loves it. Some even made copies of the pictures. I know it was meant for my eyes only, but you know I had to show at least a few people, and well those people showed others... and so and so on.
Thanks again, Feli
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Post by DEL! on Apr 29, 2005 13:29:18 GMT -5
Well, I got the b-day calendar today. Thank you to everyone who worked on this. The pictures really made me laugh. Thanks for making my day! Everyone in the office loves it. Some even made copies of the pictures. I know it was meant for my eyes only, but you know I had to show at least a few people, and well those people showed others... and so and so on. Thanks again, Feli Are you serious? Heheh, that's hilarious, seeing that many of us were worried we might get in trouble for this travesty. :P (But as demonstrated by the dramarama above, I was the only one who did (but that was only with the mods here), so meh. It's all good. Or something.) Pssst. Any chance you want to see my contributions, even though they didn't make the cut for being too late and too EEEEEEEBIL...?
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Post by Rider on Apr 29, 2005 13:50:28 GMT -5
Are you serious? Heheh, that's hilarious, seeing that many of us were worried we might get in trouble for this travesty. (But as demonstrated by the dramarama above, I was the only one who did (but that was only with the mods here), so meh. It's all good. Or something.) Pssst. Any chance you want to see my contributions, even though they didn't make the cut for being too late and too EEEEEEEBIL...?[glow=red,2,300]DEL! (Question, when you want to shout DEL!'s name enthusiastically, how do you do it? 'cause she always has the captial letters and exclaimation point.) But man, you're back! *glomp*[/glow]
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Post by Snowflake on Apr 29, 2005 14:00:50 GMT -5
Are you serious? Heheh, that's hilarious, seeing that many of us were worried we might get in trouble for this travesty. (But as demonstrated by the dramarama above, I was the only one who did (but that was only with the mods here), so meh. It's all good. Or something.) Pssst. Any chance you want to see my contributions, even though they didn't make the cut for being too late and too EEEEEEEBIL...?Yeah, sure... go ahead and e-mail it to me or something.
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Post by DEL! on Apr 29, 2005 14:03:39 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]DEL! (Question, when you want to shout DEL!'s name enthusiastically, how do you do it? 'cause she always has the captial letters and exclaimation point.) But man, you're back! *glomp*[/glow] I suppose you could always put my name in italics if you're actually shouting it. (ie, " DEL! We DO NOT post pictures of the Happiness Faerie in bondage gear! Bad girl, BAD!" *whapwhapwhap goes the rolled-up newspaper*) And I don't know if I'm really back, I just still pop in every now and again and lurk. I don't think I'm quite finished pouting and licking my wounds. :P (And really don't want any of my still-lingering bitterness (as demonstrated in the example above; oops) spilling over into the boards since I've tainted it enough as is. :/) But hey! it's always nice to know that I was missed. :) Thanks, Rider. You're a sweetheart. EDiT:Yeah, sure... go ahead and e-mail it to me or something. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHEEEEEEE~! *cough* Uh, I mean, wow! Thanks! I'll do that right now before I go to work! :D#nosmileys
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Post by Rider on Apr 29, 2005 14:08:40 GMT -5
I suppose you could always put my name in italics if you're actually shouting it. (ie, " DEL! We DO NOT post pictures of the Happiness Faerie in bondage gear! Bad girl, BAD!" *whapwhapwhap goes the rolled-up newspaper*) And I don't know if I'm really back, I just still pop in every now and again and lurk. I don't think I'm quite finished pouting and licking my wounds. (And really don't want any of my still-lingering bitterness (as demonstrated in the example above; oops) spilling over into the boards since I've tainted it enough as is. :/) But hey! it's always nice to know that I was missed. Thanks, Rider. You're a sweetheart. [glow=red,2,300]*hugs* When you're done licking, come back, OK? [/glow]
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