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Post by TheEaterofWorlds on Nov 5, 2004 19:56:09 GMT -5
Yes you did sound a little bit touchy early on when you asked what I was looking for. Eh heh heh... I just wasn't sure where we were going with this. In a debate I like to know the direction I'm trying to head on, or I don't know how to get there. I understand a lot better now and I'm sorry for being the Uberwitchqueen I was. |
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Post by mushroom on Nov 6, 2004 0:38:05 GMT -5
Instead of sunlight as their main source of energy, they converted Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) to create a completely new source of energy with Oxygen (O2) as a waste product. This discovery totally wiped out previous thoughts that if the sun were to die out suddenly all life would go with it. Wait--isn't the energy from the sun necessary for chemical reactions to occur at all? If the sun goes out, the earth freezes over, and chemical reactions don't work in really, really cold temperatures...? It's some kind of law about entropy--you need all the energy from the sun pouring in to make the extra lack of disorder? Or am I really and completely off? I've never had much physics, being a sophomore in high school  |
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Post by wolfofthewoods on Nov 6, 2004 0:44:48 GMT -5
With the sun not producing energy, the earth and everything on it would be at absolute zero, no? And chemical reactions would occur as the temperature lowered. Once it reached AZ, though, I thought the reactions would cease to exist.. My friend was talking to me about that after science class a few weeks ago, actually.
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Post by Bacon on Nov 6, 2004 0:52:00 GMT -5
Well, are you looking for "smart", or "intelligent", that is the question.
Intelligence is data/information in one's brain.Smart is how well you understand stuff.
For example, if I read maps good, I am smart. But if I can recite maps good, I'm intelligent.
Wolf: Ohno-ohno I edited her post. o___o;;; Onnne second, I'll PM her..
Seduphe: I AM NOT A HER!!! I don't mind the editing, just don't confuse my gender!!
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Post by x2world on Nov 6, 2004 14:54:04 GMT -5
Eh heh heh... I just wasn't sure where we were going with this. In a debate I like to know the direction I'm trying to head on, or I don't know how to get there. I understand a lot better now and I'm sorry for being the Uberwitchqueen I was. No Problem, I think the only difficulty was that you were trying to just say your opinion and that be the end of it. I don't think in my first post i made my intentions very clear. I always understood a debate as something where people gathered to discuss their opinions on a matter...not something that there really is an answer to( if you know what I mean) Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It is with that that I assumed the direction would be clear. |
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Post by x2world on Nov 6, 2004 15:07:52 GMT -5
Well, are you looking for "smart", or "intelligent", that is the question. Intelligence is data/information in one's brain. Wolf: Ohno-ohno I edited her post. o___o;;; Onnne second, I'll PM her.. Is it? I thought that was knowledge |
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Post by mushroom on Nov 7, 2004 13:54:04 GMT -5
No Problem, I think the only difficulty was that you were trying to just say your opinion and that be the end of it. I don't think in my first post i made my intentions very clear. I always understood a debate as something where people gathered to discuss their opinions on a matter...not something that there really is an answer to( if you know what I mean) Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It is with that that I assumed the direction would be clear. The question "What is a tree?" isn't a good debate topic, because "tree" is a word with a set definition. The question is answered with "A tree is a member of the plant kingdom with the characteristics...." It's answered by going to an encyclopedia article. On the other hand, "What is the symbolic and spiritual significance of a tree?" is a perfectly good debate topic--but if you ask "What is a tree?" and mean "What is the symbolic and spiritual significance of a tree?", people will--quite reasonably--assume you mean the factual answer instead of the poetic one. That's what happened here, I think--you asked what intelligence was, and so TEOW gave you the definition of "intelligence." Apparently you were looking for something else that it took a few posts to get across. |
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Post by Bacon on Nov 7, 2004 23:18:25 GMT -5
Is it? I thought that was knowledge Read the post after I re-editted it. And who said knowledge and intelligence were different? I just said smart and intellegent were different. |
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Post by wolfofthewoods on Nov 7, 2004 23:30:16 GMT -5
Read the post after I re-editted it. And who said knowledge and intelligence were different? I just said smart and intellegent were different. N..o, actually. Knowledge is what you know. Intelligence is how you learn, and how you apply what you learn to what you do; smartness is how quickly you are able to grasp things. ^^ |
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Post by The Unorthodox on Nov 8, 2004 8:18:04 GMT -5
Wait--isn't the energy from the sun necessary for chemical reactions to occur at all? If the sun goes out, the earth freezes over, and chemical reactions don't work in really, really cold temperatures...? It's some kind of law about entropy--you need all the energy from the sun pouring in to make the extra lack of disorder? Or am I really and completely off? I've never had much physics, being a sophomore in high school Ok; for the sake of argument we'll say that if the sun didn't go super nova or devolve into a black hole when it burned out: The heat from the Earth's core is just enough to keep these animals alive. Since the Earth's core reactions have nothing to do with the sun, that kind of heat would still be produced. When you're that far under the water, no kind of heat or energy from the sun whatsoever, besides the occasional dead whale, ever reaches you. Even if the rest of the planet were to live at absolute zero, the heat from the core of the planet would be enough to keep these ecosystems alive. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been hanging out with friends a lot lately. *Was up till 3am playing Guilty Gear X2* |
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Post by The Unorthodox on Nov 8, 2004 8:24:12 GMT -5
(Sorry, I forgot to log in so I gotta double-post)
I'm not sure that's entirely true either. Chemical reactions occur all the time in Space, which is at AZ. If Chemical Reactions stopped at AZ, there would be no super novas, black holes, flying comets, meteors...It would all just be frozen floating stuff. However, there is still lots of activity, even where it's cold enough for time to stop.
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Post by x2world on Nov 8, 2004 16:05:03 GMT -5
(Sorry, I forgot to log in so I gotta double-post) I'm not sure that's entirely true either. Chemical reactions occur all the time in Space, which is at AZ. If Chemical Reactions stopped at AZ, there would be no super novas, black holes, flying comets, meteors...It would all just be frozen floating stuff. However, there is still lots of activity, even where it's cold enough for time to stop. I thought the slowing of time is still theory...or have they proven it already? I also thought that the slowing was determined by the rate of speed...Doesn't even the coldest temperature simply slow down the molecules and even then they are still moving...just so slowly we can't pick it up |
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Post by mushroom on Nov 8, 2004 18:41:45 GMT -5
Ok; for the sake of argument we'll say that if the sun didn't go super nova or devolve into a black hole when it burned out: The heat from the Earth's core is just enough to keep these animals alive. Since the Earth's core reactions have nothing to do with the sun, that kind of heat would still be produced. When you're that far under the water, no kind of heat or energy from the sun whatsoever, besides the occasional dead whale, ever reaches you. Even if the rest of the planet were to live at absolute zero, the heat from the core of the planet would be enough to keep these ecosystems alive. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been hanging out with friends a lot lately. *Was up till 3am playing Guilty Gear X2* It would eventually fail, though, wouldn't it? It'd just take longer. The core reactions would then be providing heat to places that had been getting it from the sun...right? It's no problem  |
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 8, 2004 21:53:19 GMT -5
Well intelligence is generally considered the facet of your mind that retains knowledge. But it is also considered as a means on how one perceives their surroundings, and how we learn things.
I believe that intelligence is what measures our instincts, such as survival, self-preservation, and logic.
But everyone possesses intelligence with various weak and strong points, which helps define our individuality.
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Post by x2world on Nov 8, 2004 22:24:43 GMT -5
Well intelligence is generally considered the facet of your mind that retains knowledge. But it is also considered as a means on how one perceives their surroundings, and how we learn things. I believe that intelligence is what measures our instincts, such as survival, self-preservation, and logic. But everyone possesses intelligence with various weak and strong points, which helps define our individuality. I know this is off topic but I don't know where to post this question... What is everything that makes up someones individuality (specifications: no answers that relate only to a specific person...it's gotta be a "general answer so that it can apply to anyone, but references to others are allowed) |
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