Arguments That Don't Fly

[Princess Ember Mononoke]

this isn't really a debate topic, but since it's about debates, I thought it belongs here.

Have you ever been in a debate, discussion, friendly argument, etc. where your opponent gave an argument so silly, he or she might have well have just shouted "Pull!"?

In Eighth grade, we were writing persuasive essays. One person who's final draft was read to the class was arguing in favor of "Teen Rights". His thesis: cockroaches had more rights than the average teenager. He railed against curfews and restrictions of movement, contrasting them with cockroaches who, according to him "no one tells what to do. A cockroach can go where it wants, whenever it wants."
My response: "Yeah, but teens have right to life."

Then there was a time I was at a wolf sanctuary, and there was a woman listening in on a conversation I was having with one of the people who ran the place. The person was describing some of the atrocities commited against wolves, and I said "That's disgusting."
The woman barged in and said "Yeah, people say that, but then they go and eat cows," in a voice that said she obviously didn't think much of this whole animal rights idea.
I responded, my voice the very picture of innocence, by saying "But I don't eat cows! I'm a vegetarian!"
Not exactly a brilliant debate maneuver, but it sure shut her up.

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This is a tad off topic, however I know of similar "arguments."

You know how people come up with those silly questions that "have no answer," and think they're being witty by coming up with these great questions? I have answers to all of them.

Q: If you make a cow laugh, will milk come out of it's nose?
A: If you make any female mammal laugh, will milk come out of hers? Of course not. Unless the female happens to be drinking milk.

Q: Why doesn't glue dry up in the bottle?
A: The water in it can't evaporate because it's sealed off.

I had some more, but I can't remember them.#nosmileys

[ghostision]

My friends and I have those every day. Such as if it's physically possible for Dumbo to fly, if his bones were made of titanium steel and he had magically light muscles, or whether Robin Hood was a simple thief or a good person. And others. They usually involve fairy tales or Disney movies, but sometimes others. But yeah, horribly pointless. But meh.

[KittyKadaveral]

ghostision said:

My friends and I have those every day. Such as if it's physically possible for Dumbo to fly, if his bones were made of titanium steel and he had magically light muscles, or whether Robin Hood was a simple thief or a good person. And others. They usually involve fairy tales or Disney movies, but sometimes others. But yeah, horribly pointless. But meh.

LOL You sound like me in that matter. I always pull apart The Lion King because Disney made the brag that "we wanted a movie where animals act like real animals not people." Ummm..ok, I didn't know that mandrills walked around being shamen and carried medicine staffs. I also didn't realize that male lions actually played with their cubs let alone let another adult male live with the pride. The one thing that always got people laughing when I'd bring it up is if you truly think about it, Nala and Simba are half brother and sister. I was told I take cartoons too seriously and yes perhaps that IS true at times, but only when they're stated as being perfect this or that or historically accurate whatever. In all rights too, Scar should have killed Simba and Nala (and whatever other cubs are around) after Mufasa died. That way the females would have went into heat and he could mate with them to carry on HIS bloodline. I also rip up Pocahontas simply because that's a true story Disney decided to butcher. She was not some 18 year old busty girl but was an 11 year old child. Her father ended up being a jerk to his tribe and sold them out to the white man. The movie would have been great as an original story, not so loosely based on history it's screwy.

Geez, I hope I didn't lose context here But yeah, those are usually my random arguements. I don't go so far with stuff like that because cartoons, after all, are fantasy and allow the watchers to do things they'll never be able to do in reality. I just fight the cause for things that ARE real that are made a mockery of (you don't take a historical fact and tear it up to it's own separate story. I wonder what they'd do if a movie came out with WWII being fought over doughnuts?) or I hit the movies that brag saying how realistic or true to life it is. Sorry, last I checked lions did nothing but sleep. Now if you forgive me, I have to get ready for work with a four foot tall mouse that dances on a river boat with a Latino band. ;D

[Oily]

I just love when someone puts their foot in it in debates and you just deliver such a good point that there is no return ^^ We don't debate very often, but I love doing so.

KittyKadaveral said:

I also rip up Pocahontas simply because that's a true story Disney decided to butcher. She was not some 18 year old busty girl but was an 11 year old child. Her father ended up being a jerk to his tribe and sold them out to the white man. The movie would have been great as an original story, not so loosely based on history it's screwy.

Yeah, but Pocahontas went to London and was incredibly admired and married, I think :/ And she died of typhoid coming back from London, I think...Either that, or she died going to London. But, yeah, Disney screwed with it.

[Crystal]

Oily said:

I just love when someone puts their foot in it in debates and you just deliver such a good point that there is no return ^^ We don't debate very often, but I love doing so.

I love it too - when they're on my side....

Yeah, but Pocahontas went to London and was incredibly admired and married, I think :/ And she died of typhoid coming back from London, I think...Either that, or she died going to London. But, yeah, Disney screwed with it.

Oh, I dunno, I kinda liked the screwy version. And the Lion King. I know it's all not-fact, but if it were fact there wouldn't have been any story! And it still retains the place of one of the best movies I've ever seen. ^^

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Oily said:

I just love when someone puts their foot in it in debates and you just deliver such a good point that there is no return ^^ We don't debate very often, but I love doing so.



Yeah, but Pocahontas went to London and was incredibly admired and married, I think :/ And she died of typhoid coming back from London, I think...Either that, or she died going to London. But, yeah, Disney screwed with it.

Disney screws up nearly every story they touch.

Hercules is so far from the original story that they can't even be called related.

[Tdyans]

My friend thinks the best argument for why a TV show is good is: So-and-so is hot!

[ashketchum173175]

Most ridiculous arguments ever:

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[aakfish]

It should be against the law for Disney to make historical cartoons, look at Anastasia!

[william]

Aak said:

It should be against the law for Disney to make historical cartoons, look at Anastasia!

Anastasia is by Fox, not Disney.

[tennmagpie]

TheComedian said:

This is a tad off topic, however I know of similar "arguments."

You know how people come up with those silly questions that "have no answer," and think they're being witty by coming up with these great questions? I have answers to all of them.

Q: If you make a cow laugh, will milk come out of it's nose?
A: If you make any female mammal laugh, will milk come out of hers? Of course not. Unless the female happens to be drinking milk.

Q: Why doesn't glue dry up in the bottle?
A: The water in it can't evaporate because it's sealed off.

I had some more, but I can't remember them.

o_0 Lighten up, Comedian. People aren't serious when they're asking those kinds of questions. And while the two examples you gave were fairly stupid, some of them actually are pretty funny.

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Tenn said:

o_0 Lighten up, Comedian. People aren't serious when they're asking those kinds of questions. And while the two examples you gave were fairly stupid, some of them actually are pretty funny.

If they're not serious, why are they asking them? I see no point to stupid questions.

[tennmagpie]

TheComedian said:

If they're not serious, why are they asking them? I see no point to stupid questions.

Because they're joking.

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Tenn said:

Because they're joking.

Seriously?

Man, I always thought they were just being stupid.