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Post by mushroom on Mar 9, 2003 0:10:56 GMT -5
Well, to be honest, I wasn't referring to the ryhme scheam. You can have a great ryhme scheam, but still leave a lot to be desired. Y'see, the poem might've had okay "writing", but what do you get out of it? Nothing. It's a pointless poem, and apparently, that's what Neopets wants... That's what makes it bad; it brings no enrichment to your mind, and NO ONE will remeber it, because it was just a little diddy. As for your own poems, TK, no offense to you, I've always thought they were bad. However, since you admit that you're not slaving over them, or even pouring much effort into them, that makes me feel better about your writing. Still, it proves the point I'm most worried about: people will assume I can't write. I assumed you weren't a very good poetry writer (not saying ALL your poems are bad, but lately they've been a bit lack-luster), becuase that's what you've got to do to get in. If I choose to take that path, people will assume I'm a bad writer, which is almost, if not, enough to turn in ALL the cash and trophies I've reicived for my poetry. I just don't know... Ember, yeah, I know what you're saying... Still, what else can you make 80K on in ten minutes? I think I'm weighing two choices here. A) Keep writing GOOD poetry, and slaving over them, and being rejected (I've had two poems in the past YEAR published, and I've subtmiited about 20. I won't be published very much if I choose that path, if at all.) B) Put a note on my lookup saying the poetry I write is to cater to the contest, and is nowhere near the top of my skills. Then write BAD poetry and make cash/trohpies. Which would should I do, whoever you are, in your opinion? You left out two choices: C) Give up, decide the world (or maybe just the PC judge) is cruel, and quit writing. D) Write your poems reasonably well, but don't slave over them. Submit them, but don't dedicate your poetry career to the PC; put up the ones that don't make it in somewhere else where people will read them (like a petpage with a note on your lookup to look there for your recent poetry). I'd advise you to pick D; you still have a chance at 80K, but you aren't dedicating your life to the PC, and you don't despise your writing. That's just my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2003 1:58:12 GMT -5
In response to the overall topic, I know it probably feels horrible that someone has been reduced to "selling out" once or twice, but what's more horrible is that they had to in the first place. That suddenly, all these meaningless, slap-dash works are suddenly honored. That people who never deserved it are being congratulated. So don't feel bad. It's not your fault that what used to be great outlets for artistic talent has suddenly become so lame and shallow anyway. *walks off muttering about the submissions lately that are crud*
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Post by noremac9 on Mar 9, 2003 9:13:18 GMT -5
You left out two choices: C) Give up, decide the world (or maybe just the PC judge) is cruel, and quit writing. D) Write your poems reasonably well, but don't slave over them. Submit them, but don't dedicate your poetry career to the PC; put up the ones that don't make it in somewhere else where people will read them (like a petpage with a note on your lookup to look there for your recent poetry). I'd advise you to pick D; you still have a chance at 80K, but you aren't dedicating your life to the PC, and you don't despise your writing. That's just my opinion. Hmm... 'D' is quite a reasonable choice, but the fact of the matter is that I've been doing part of it for a year. I mean, I don't really "slave" over poetry, but I might spend 45 minutes to an hour on it, opposed to ten minutes. (LOL-- no, I don't dedicate my poetry career to the PC. This is just one outlet, I do a lot of stuff in real life.) Yeah, 'D' MIGHT work, but there's still one thing. I've been submitting good poems for a year, and as I already stated, two have been published. I really don't like the idea of working hard to get a 1/10 ratio, when I can write crap and get a 1/2 ratio. However, it might be a good idea to put what I tihnk are good ones up on my petpage. The thing is, how many people will actually read them? Not very many, I'm guessing. Right now I'm thinking heavily about 'B', and putting a note up on my lookup. However, pat had an idea I'm going to look into first... |
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Post by TK on Mar 9, 2003 9:19:53 GMT -5
Well, to be honest, I wasn't referring to the ryhme scheam. You can have a great ryhme scheam, but still leave a lot to be desired. Y'see, the poem might've had okay "writing", but what do you get out of it? Nothing. It's a pointless poem, and apparently, that's what Neopets wants... That's what makes it bad; it brings no enrichment to your mind, and NO ONE will remeber it, because it was just a little diddy. As for your own poems, TK, no offense to you, I've always thought they were bad. However, since you admit that you're not slaving over them, or even pouring much effort into them, that makes me feel better about your writing. Still, it proves the point I'm most worried about: people will assume I can't write. I assumed you weren't a very good poetry writer (not saying ALL your poems are bad, but lately they've been a bit lack-luster), becuase that's what you've got to do to get in. If I choose to take that path, people will assume I'm a bad writer, which is almost, if not, enough to turn in ALL the cash and trophies I've reicived for my poetry. I just don't know... Ember, yeah, I know what you're saying... Still, what else can you make 80K on in ten minutes? I think I'm weighing two choices here. A) Keep writing GOOD poetry, and slaving over them, and being rejected (I've had two poems in the past YEAR published, and I've subtmiited about 20. I won't be published very much if I choose that path, if at all.) B) Put a note on my lookup saying the poetry I write is to cater to the contest, and is nowhere near the top of my skills. Then write BAD poetry and make cash/trohpies. Which would should I do, whoever you are, in your opinion? I know my poetry is bad. Why? Because I don't try. The reason I do it is because I'm in desperate need for NP. Sad to say, but it's true. I'm not ashamed though, because I KNOW I could give 100% on a poem, but I don't do that because I don't think it'll get in. But sometimes, take Famous Chia Limericks for example, I'm proud of that poem because it was imaginative, cute, and just good. I did a little research too. That's my idea of a good poem by me. Anyway, now I have to try. I'm entering a Poetry Contest in Utah. Hopefully I'll do good. Open topic...have no clue what scheme or anything like that. Thinking a quartet of limericks but don't know what about. Maybe Spring or something lame like that... EDIT: You also seem to dislike the Neopets Poetry Contest in general |
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Post by hippiesoul on Mar 9, 2003 12:05:51 GMT -5
Bah, who cares about the poems that get published, anyway? I say write crap and get rich. Then you can write good stuff and publish it somewhere else, like your petpage, your own personal website or something. It's not like it matters... really.
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Post by Oily on Mar 9, 2003 14:12:26 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with soul selling. I've written two crap Neopets poems too and all my good ones were rejected. Submit the bad stuff, and put a good one on your userlookup/make a page about it. There are very few good Neopets poems out there and you might as well get the NP as others.
Why does the Poetry competition have rich rewards and low standards while the NT is the other way around? Not that I'd want NT rewards really...
Personally, I gave up on the Poetry Contest a while ago.
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Post by noremac9 on Mar 9, 2003 14:38:45 GMT -5
Bah, who cares about the poems that get published, anyway? I say write crap and get rich. Then you can write good stuff and publish it somewhere else, like your petpage, your own personal website or something. It's not like it matters... really. Y'know, I think that's the first thing anyone said to put it into perspective. Neopets isn't real life (I think, gotta check up onb that...) so what does it really matter? Where else can I get 80,000 NPs in fifteen minutes? Okay, that sealed it. Here's my plan: I put a note on my Lookup. I say to go to the petpages to see the REAL poems. I use the money I make to train Nie, buy weapons, etc., and forget about morals and such, because it's all virtual. Thanks Hippie, case closed. =) |
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Post by TK on Mar 9, 2003 15:06:52 GMT -5
Y'know, I think that's the first thing anyone said to put it into perspective. Neopets isn't real life (I think, gotta check up onb that...) so what does it really matter? Where else can I get 80,000 NPs in fifteen minutes? Okay, that sealed it. Here's my plan: I put a note on my Lookup. I say to go to the petpages to see the REAL poems. I use the money I make to train Nie, buy weapons, etc., and forget about morals and such, because it's all virtual. Thanks Hippie, case closed. =) Wow, shortest, simpilest answer is also the best! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2003 15:10:22 GMT -5
Bah, who cares about the poems that get published, anyway? I say write crap and get rich. Then you can write good stuff and publish it somewhere else, like your petpage, your own personal website or something. It's not like it matters... really. Here here hippie! *gets song idea* here here hippie, hippie is her name, she gives grate advice, because giving advice is her game! well its not but...hey! |
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Post by hippiesoul on Mar 9, 2003 16:53:16 GMT -5
LOL ;D
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