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Post by Tdyans on Feb 5, 2003 21:26:58 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out the difference in usage between awoke and woke. I've read a few things, but none of them have made me completely sure. Specifically, it's for this sentence:
"Harold awoke, his back stiff and sore after slumping against the steel bars all night..."
Is that right, or should it be "woke" instead? "Awoke" seems more correct to me, but I'm not sure, and I'd hate to screw up from the very first line of the story...
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Post by starhamster on Feb 5, 2003 21:58:13 GMT -5
I'd say "awoke" because it sounds better, but it could be either, I guess...
Awoke / awaken / ?
Woke / wake? I don't think woke is even a word. Anyone have a dictionary?
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Post by Tdyans on Feb 5, 2003 22:12:28 GMT -5
I'd say "awoke" because it sounds better, but it could be either, I guess... Awoke / awaken / ? Woke / wake? I don't think woke is even a word. Anyone have a dictionary? Woke is definitely a word. "I woke up" for example. I think since I don't have the "up" in there, that "awoke" is more correct, but like I said, I wanted to make sure...
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Post by sara on Feb 5, 2003 23:30:33 GMT -5
I can't tell this for sure, but this has the smell of old english and influences from other languages/simplification coming into conflict.
Probably, if you serached hard enough, you could probably find a context where wake/woke can go without the up, but all I think of is where the up isn't next to the wake/woke
I couldn't wake her up
Probably the wake is with a up 98% of the time, and awoke/awaken always goes solo.
This reminds me of the first funny scene in the book Witch Week where it was describing how there was a school which required daily journals, and a certain student always started with "I woke up". Of course what he really meant was "I hate school", but since the journals would be read he wouldn't say that without coding.
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Post by Tdyans on Feb 5, 2003 23:44:28 GMT -5
Probably, if you serached hard enough, you could probably find a context where wake/woke can go without the up, but all I think of is where the up isn't next to the wake/woke I couldn't wake her upWell, you could say, "I couldn't wake her" without the up and it would be/sound just as good. But that's a bit beside the point...
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Post by sara on Feb 6, 2003 0:29:42 GMT -5
Well, you could say, "I couldn't wake her" without the up and it would be/sound just as good. But that's a bit beside the point... I thought of that, but I think "I couldn't wake her up" sounds better. However often grammar is lost in talkin' y'know. I know a girl who speaks like "I is not kewl with that."
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Post by Tdyans on Feb 6, 2003 1:06:39 GMT -5
Oh well, anyway I guess I'll stick with "awoke" and hope that it's not the first thing they decide to pick on in workshop. Boy am I nervous... not to mention not even finished with my story...
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Feb 6, 2003 16:12:17 GMT -5
I dunno. It seems "awoke" is in fairy tales alot...
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Post by L on Feb 6, 2003 16:16:19 GMT -5
a·wake v. a·woke, (-wk) or a·waked a·waked, or a·wok·en (-wkn) a·wak·ing, a·wakes v. tr.
1. To rouse from sleep; waken. 2. To stir the interest of; excite. 3. To stir up (memories, for example).
v. intr.
1. To wake up. 2. To become alert. 3. To become aware or cognizant: awoke to reality. See Usage Note at wake1.
adj.
1. Completely conscious; not in a state of sleep. 2. Vigilant; watchful. See Synonyms at aware.
[Middle English awaken, from Old English wacan : -, intensive pref. + wacan, wake; see wake1.]
__________________________________________ Vs:
wake1 v. woke, (wk) or waked (wkt) waked, or wok·en (wkn) wak·ing, wakes v. intr.
1. 1. To cease to sleep; become awake: overslept and woke late. 2. To stay awake: Bears wake for spring, summer, and fall and hibernate for the winter. 3. To be brought into a state of awareness or alertness: suddenly woke to the danger we were in. 2. To keep watch or guard, especially over a corpse.
v. tr.
1. To rouse from sleep; awaken. 2. To stir, as from a dormant or inactive condition; rouse: wake old animosities. 3. To make aware of; alert: The shocking revelations finally woke me to the facts of the matter. 4. 1. To keep a vigil over. 2. To hold a wake over.
n.
1. A watch; a vigil. 2. A watch over the body of a deceased person before burial, sometimes accompanied by festivity. Also called viewing. 3. wakes (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Chiefly British. 1. A parish festival held annually, often in honor of a patron saint. 2. An annual vacation.
[Middle English wakien, waken, from Old English wacan, to wake up, and wacian, to be awake, keep watch; see weg- in Indo-European Roots.]waker n.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2003 6:46:56 GMT -5
I like Awoke...Cant beat Links Awakening
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Post by Nekookane on Feb 10, 2003 22:54:46 GMT -5
Hmm, that's a poser! I found a thing called: Notorius Confusables that explains it somewhat. I was going to post something similar, but, I wasn't entirely correct.
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Post by Tdyans on Feb 10, 2003 23:10:22 GMT -5
So... what I get from that is basically... you can use either one pretty much?
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Post by noremac9 on Feb 11, 2003 18:09:50 GMT -5
So... what I get from that is basically... you can use either one pretty much? It's one of those stylistic choices you have to make. Personally, I prefer "awake/awoke" when I can, which is most of the time. Which ever one you use, try to be consistant through-out the piece. -Noremac9
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Post by 843 on Feb 17, 2003 2:52:40 GMT -5
from what I have known is that we use the word wake/woke if being used with the word 'up'
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Post by Leb on Feb 18, 2003 18:28:02 GMT -5
These types of things make me wonder why English was ever spoken without the first people laughing at their own wording stupidity.
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