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Post by Pacmanite on May 10, 2011 9:54:32 GMT -5
All this NTWF art in one place is so exciting ;D Actually, if the sketchbook is looking like it'll go to the New Zealand area, I'd love if it could come over to Australia too. I shall PM you my details <3
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Post by Pacmanite on May 10, 2011 9:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I really like the idea of the damsel being the artist's own pet! It's neat, keeps the cast count manageable, is a good starting point for the action, and also allows for flexibility in the actual plot for the comic.
I'm almost done with my design for Joey. I couldn't exactly get his tiny, stout frame to radiate power (even when trying on a man's leotard...) but I think he's looking nice in a mask and gloves at least. I'll post his picture when I can get it finished.
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Post by Pacmanite on May 10, 2011 7:29:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry I'm going into perhaps too much detail about this lion thing. Using animal analogies for people is not something I like to do most of the time. But in this discussion, we're all trying to find out the root causes of gender differentiation in society. And then there's the question of whether gender ever was necessary, or if it still is now, or if society should be this or that, and in this case the lion pride is good because it gives a distancing effect. We are not lions, we are humans, but exploring the mechanics of lion society can still offer some interesting questions about our own. I start with a quick, and rather generalised, sketch of what a young male lion does as he reaches maturity. When he leaves (is forced out of) home, he has no pride to feed him, so he has to hunt alone using stalker tactics, like a leopard. Eventually he continues to grow in size until he reckons he can take out the leader of another pride. This is hard, because lions with a pride tend to get better food than loners and thus are usually stronger. So the loner has to keep wandering until he gets lucky and come across a pride lion who's become sick or old or weak. If he defeats the old lion, he gains control of his territory and his lionesses. The old lion is chased out of his former territory and spends the rest of his miserable life trying to hunt his own food again. The new lion's role now is to prevent any other lions from taking his place, and to sire new cubs. He kills all the previous lion's cubs - he has no affection for them, they eat his food, and the lionesses won't go back into heat until the cubs are removed - and he gorges himself on the spoils the lionesses bring him. That is, until he gets old and is deposed by another loner. Pride lions, in this case, seem rather parasitic. The most important role a pride lion must do is to stop a different male from coming in and killing all the cubs (which is what he did on his first day). In return he gets first dibs on every meal - he eats his fill before the cubs do or even any of the lionesses who actually hunted it. He has become huge and heavy, and he is puffed out when he tries to run, because his body is mostly geared to scare/fight off rivals. He's not too well suited to the running and herding tactics of the lionesses; because of his size he mostly tends to stalk and grab (if he has to hunt something). But it is very interesting to examine sexual dimorphism in lions. It's hard to see if it's even that necessary, or if lions would be better of without a big fat tyrant. Because if a male lion was built more like a lioness, the way wolves are sort of similar between the sexes, it would enable him to take part in the hunt more often and he'd increase the hunting party's size by one member. I'm assuming here that more helpers = more food = better result overall. However, since there are males who have developed more imposing features, NOT having a male lion who is at least as fierce as the roaming loners means that all your cubs are going to be killed. So, you start wanting bigger, lazier, greedier lions. You want your lion to be the biggest, laziest, greediest one, to scare all the other ones away. In a world tainted with intra-species violence, you want your male to be the fiercest and most agressive one of them all. It's simply a matter of keeping up with the competition. (And as an aside: It makes me feel sad how extreme the competition is for some people who feel they need to "prove" their gender. I see it happening each time I go to put up the magazines in my newsagency - meaty, muscly men, and skinny, tanned women. They seem like more or less the only types of people that men- and women-oriented magazines want to portray. Although I think some of the men's magazines are much worse than the women's - they get titles like "fighters only", "men only"; women's magazines are hardly ever that openly exclusive) My input here is that yes, male lions can and do hunt alone. But it depends on the context. And even then, they don't often hunt the same way that team-lionesses do. And I can't say how conscious they are of their own "roles". But many of these intra-species behaviours are reinforced by the reactions and responses of other members of the species. A lion who kills cubs is rewarded with sex. A scrawny loner who punches above his weight is punished and driven away. We may never be able to read what animals are thinking, but how the lion society maintains its own set of "rules" seems pretty apparent and real. And then what can we say about necessity. Do lionesses really need a big lazy male to feed? Or does this only happen because in an imperfect world, the lionesses need an agressive jerk to fend away all the other agressive suitors? I don't know what to say. I almost feel like saying that if there was a society that had no need for gender differentiation, then in that society there would be no gender differentiation. Which would be the same thing as saying that every society, including our own, has needed gender differentiation. But that feels problematic to me because the issue of necessity is rather complicated and convoluted at times. And the argument is circular: Without necessity, there is nothing; x exists, therefore, x is necessary. So anyway, I'd say that gender role differentiation is real in the sense that it is reinforced by the way society rewards adherents and punishes rebels. "Should it be retained" and "is it necessary" are harder questions. It becomes difficult to separate what we are and what we should be, and whether being a certain way is wrong. The problem applies equally to a person and a society. Can being the way it is justify itself?
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 26, 2011 9:59:22 GMT -5
Sorry I'm holding everyone up, I've got 2500 words to write by Friday for my uni and my computer's just had to have its hard drives wiped because of a virus that wouldn't go away and I need to reinstall photoshop and everything...
Anyway I'm sorry to be making excuses for this, in reality I'm stoked to be able to participate in your collaboration and there really would be nothing I'd rather be working on, except that I kinda have to put it aside until the week's over and my essay is handed in.
I've decided to name Joey's persona "Blindside Bandit".
edit: Actually, make that "Blindside Boy". There's something humiliating about being called "something Boy" or "whatever Girl" all the time even though by all accounts the character is doing an adult's job (or is, you know, an actual grown-up by this stage).
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 25, 2011 19:35:06 GMT -5
I wonder if there's anything special going on at that time other than the 500th issue? *checks the calendar* Hm, all I can see is that June 24th lies between Kau and Acara day. I'm not sure if there might be other site events around that time.
And I'm still halfway through my design, and I'm stuck on whether to call him Winking Walloper or Blindside Bandit. The missing eye seems to be his defining feature xD
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 23, 2011 9:31:48 GMT -5
So, I managed to get a Vaporeon off the breakout game after a few failed attempts. And then I was so stoked, because my team in B/W is really lacking a good water type. But then I read the fine print and it seems the pokemon's not going to be available from the Dreamworld until "spring", or "in the coming months"... so I guess it'll be some time before I see my Vaporeon, yes? I don't know how they define spring up there but it's been autumn down in Australia for nearly 2 months. xD
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 21, 2011 22:37:16 GMT -5
Komori and Fish, I think you guys have got it summed up all right. ^_^ Joey will be another one of the super-incompetent-heroes but be kind of prone to doing the opposite of his supposed job. Well, kinda like the rest of them. xD Only he gets slightly more of "do it for the evulz" than "do it for the lulz" and "oops"... He's a nitwit regardless of what side he falls into, and he falls in among the good guys most of the time, but I think he's more attracted to sheer awesomeness than morality, and villains can appeal to his vanity for wanting to be among the awesomest. And The Me Guy, I don't think we do have any set theme for anything yet, so there won't be any harm in throwing in your suggestion for a villain. ^_^ If/when we do decide on a theme for this year, we could always give a sort of reworking to idea. But in the end it'll come down to the writers to find a way to make it shine, and I don't guarantee that it will happen. But still, if you have an idea of yours, feel free to suggest it here.
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 21, 2011 7:50:01 GMT -5
=D Yay, this is making me all so excited!
I've got to do up the costume for Joey. <3 Maybe he'll have a miniature black cape? Gloves? Leotard? *doodles*
He was originally (in his oldest, pre-NT design) planned to be a pocket-sized villain with no chance of success. The bumbling bad guy who gets in everyone's way including the real villain. But if I make him that way, he'd not be a Team Squad Force member, he'd try to oppose it - is that all right? In any case I'm open to him being one of the good guys too, and the squad could be a real foursome. I'm kind of in two minds with him here...
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 20, 2011 22:14:43 GMT -5
*jumps* Team Squad Force? That collab was really well done the last few years. Actually, if you happen to miss a third contender, I'd be very happy to have a crack at drawing in one of them. That is, if no one minds. ^_^ Oooooooooooohhhh hmmmmm. Joey would be a good addition to the team... I'll send some dA notes to Fish and Abra and see if they're still up for a TSF or not, and if not if they're okay either changing the team up or letting you use Mad or Emsohl. :3 It would be pretty awesome if we could continue TSF for another year. 8D Yeah, it would be really cool to have Joey all costumed-up, because in his old original design (as in, from 2005) he had actually been meant to be a little villain. Not a grand villain, more like a wannabe which totally fails at his byzantine plots, or unknowingly foils the plot of the real villain, or gets trampled along the way. =D
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 20, 2011 11:11:51 GMT -5
Heh. Half a thousand issues, eh? I'm definitely going to do something special, but I don't really know what yet. Last couple of 50s I did Team Squad Force collabs with Fish and Abra, but I haven't heard much from them lately, so I don't know if they're up for a third year. *jumps* Team Squad Force? That collab was really well done the last few years. Actually, if you happen to miss a third contender, I'd be very happy to have a crack at drawing in one of them. That is, if no one minds. ^_^ Hmm. I did have a certain thing planned for this issue, but it's not going too well yet and it's not really that 500-themed... I can guarantee it won't be a multipart comic series this year though.
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 15, 2011 10:31:50 GMT -5
>_> Actually, crossing speech bubble tails is also bad form. Bubbles need to be planned out at the same time the art is, so that they can be used thoughtfully and not thrown in at the last minute. :/ *checks link* Looks like they crossed the speech bubble tail because one character was interrupting the other. Otherwise, yeah... don't do that. XD ... Seriously? I'd seen the occasional crossed-tails for some lengthy back-and-forth dialogue. And frankly, I like that better than giving each bubble its own tail. It looked nice and neat in those ones... Well, I guess that explains why it took me so long to find one with crossed tails. "Crossed tails"? I'm confused here... are we talking about: I really don't like that kind of crossing tail. I mean, if I have to mentally trace my finger over the tangled net of speech bubble tails to work out who's saying what, it definitely pulls me out of the story. It's really not intuitive. Or are we talking about this? That's not bad. I sometimes use this for short bursts of quick dialogue between two characters. It's useful for condensing what could have been several panels of idle banter into just one. But of course, even this can be implemented badly if you don't follow the simple left-to-right rules for placing speech bubbles well enough. This layout confuses me because I already started to read the longer text in the bigger bubble on the left, but the smaller one on the right doesn't quite register with me until my eye has already started scanning the second bubble. So yeah. Plan your speech bubble placement, because there's so much scope to do the wrong thing when it comes to shuffling these bubbles around. At the same time there's a lot of freedom to get things flowing really nicely, too, but it only works out like that if you're aware of the reader's experience.
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 13, 2011 19:36:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you're being unfair to The Handmaid's Tale. Calling it watered down 1984 is pretty dismissive and summing it up as Feminists vs. Christians sorta misses the point. I'm not even sure you could still call what they practice in that book Christianity at all. The trappings of Christianity are used so we have something to compare it against, though it is as alien to Christ's teachings as fundamentalist Islam is to Muhammad's ideas of increased rights for women (Islam actually granted women inheritance rights, property ownership, increased their rights in regard to rejecting marriages and arranging for divorce, and a number of other things unheard of at the time).
It's about the slide into fundamentalism, and an extrapolation of the path that occurs when we give up freedoms for comfort. It's also against theocracy, which is a very different thing than being against a religion.
In fact, with the rapid-fire introduction of anti woman legislation by the right since the beginning of this year in the U.S., I'd argue that Atwood is even more spot-on than Orwell. >.>
Actually, you make a fair point. You explored the meaning of the book's fundamentalist regime in nice depth, going beyond the surface veneer of Christianity. That barely happened in my English class though. That class was half-full of numskulls, and even the teacher was of the opinion that the book was really saying "omg get out of my face christians your beliefs are so wrong". So I probably just have particularly awful memories of the book because of having to study it for months while being the only one in the classroom who defended Christianity when the teacher thought it wasn't rude to just offhand insult it... >.>
But I concede. That experience really has nothing to do with the Handmaid's Tale as intended by the author. And now that I stop to think about it, while it's still not my favourite novel, I can see that it's quite a bit more than a watered down 1984.
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 12, 2011 7:08:31 GMT -5
'Scry' doesn't look like a real word. I'm sorry to be dredging up a point of discussion which has been long dropped, but I couldn't help myself. Every single time I come across an unusual English word (or even a common one that makes me wonder) I like to plug it into the Online Etymology Dictionary. And it turns out, this word is not the invention of various fantasy writers, but is actually attested to the 1520s I love being surprised at a word's longevity. Scry 1520s, “to see images in a crystal, water, etc., which reveal the past or forebode the future;" aphetic of descry (1). Related: Scried; scrying.
The older form descry ("to see, discern,") in turn came into English through Old French from the Latin verb describere, which is the same root which gave us the more familiar English word describe. Which we happen to talk about a lot on this thread. ;D *** Now, what I can't stand is when a writer tries to take on a serious issue, but it falls flat. It can be any issue, but when an author treats it so heavy-handedly and assumes his/her readers are so thick they can't see allegory when it's screaming in their face, then it gets really sickening. And these kinds of books enjoy a greater-than-average chance of being included in a high school English class readings list. *headdesk*. Oh yeah, and the other thing that peeves me is how to decide which words to capitalise in a title. I know "the", "and", "in" and "of" should probably be left the way they are, but when the little words outnumber and overwhelm the few capitalised main words, I feel sorry for those main words. I worry that people might entirely overlook that the whole phrase was meant to be capitalised and get confused if it almost merges into the sentence. Maybe I'm just being crazy. Eg. I worry that titles like In the House or out the Door are hard to pick out and separate from the syntax of the sentence...
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 8, 2011 7:55:44 GMT -5
Thanks so much everyone, you make me feel all special. <3 As I get older I realise how priceless it is to have friends like you. So thanks, it means a lot. Happy belated Birthday. Hope you enjoyed eating power pellets and ghosts OMNOMNOM. Gotta have something to spruce up my diet of little dots.
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Post by Pacmanite on Apr 6, 2011 10:05:06 GMT -5
I don't know how you can trade me one over, though... unless it can work through the internet somehow? That part confuses me. I see there's a whole lot of new features with these games which I haven't quite had the time to test out yet xD Well, we can swap those Pal codes (and names of our characters), and then you turn on the C-Gear and choose Wireless. And then we can enter a Union Room to interact with each other. (So we'd have to be online at the same time) I traded with Buizel this way. :3 It took a few attempts, but we made a couple of trades. If you'd like to try, I"d be more than happy to infect you with a horrible disease. 8D Awesome, that doesn't sound too complicated I've managed a trade with my cousin in RL with the gameboys side by side so I guess the part of the process about going into the Union Room should be the same. And I've connected my DS to the wireless once before, though I had to temporarily disable my computer's firewall, but I guess if we arranged a time it should work out all right. The only thing is that I've got a concert this weekend and a ton of work so I won't be able to find a good time for you until the weekend after next. Anyway, I'll send you a PM Soon as I can suss out the timezone differences. *hums "Catch My Disease"*
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