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Post by Gelquie on Mar 26, 2021 23:45:27 GMT -5
So, the Johari Window is a psychological tool to help people distinguish their cognitive personality traits, from what they see in themselves versus how other people see them. There was a thread on this back in 2006. Given how long ago that was and how people and their priorities may have changed since then, and how there are new people on the forum now who have never even heard of this, I felt it was better to remake a thread. I talked about this in my diary as a way to help with self-perception, and there was enough interest to garner its own thread. The Johari part could in a way, as Moni put it, be a sort of mini warm fuzzies. Or at least help others who choose to participate. There's an online tool for this. You don't need to create an account or log into anything to make one or contribute to someone else's. Keep in mind that the pages are permanent, but your name can be nearly anything so long as it's unique. You also can be anonymous when contributing to others'; it's up to you or the wishes of the Johari poster. (If people are concerned about privacy, we can move this thread to Diaries.) Johari Tool where you can make your own. If you're okay with constructive criticism or feel you'd rather explore both the positive and negative aspects, there's also a Nohari window, created by the online tool that basically uses the antonyms of the Johari tool. You don't have to make or contribute to a Nohari if you don't want to or are not comfortable doing so. User discretion is advised. And lastly, here's mine! I've already linked mine in my diary, but I'll put it here again. If you've already contributed to it, you don't need to contribute again, for your responses are saved.
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Post by PFA on Mar 27, 2021 1:09:14 GMT -5
This is pretty interesting! Here's mine: kevan.org/jh/petfriendamyNot sure if I want to do the Nohari yet. Might decide that at a time that isn't midnight, lol.
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Post by Thorn on Mar 27, 2021 1:27:28 GMT -5
Here's mine! I don't mind whether people stay anonymous or use their names. JoharithingyI find it interesting that the Nohari is described on its site as using antonyms of the Johari, but a) the Johari already has some negative traits in it and b) 'imaginative' is not on the Johari while 'unimaginative' is on the Nohari, and I would describe so many people as creative or imaginative! xD
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Johari
Mar 27, 2021 8:12:15 GMT -5
Post by Celestial on Mar 27, 2021 8:12:15 GMT -5
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Johari
Mar 27, 2021 10:26:47 GMT -5
Post by Moni on Mar 27, 2021 10:26:47 GMT -5
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Post by Twillie on Mar 29, 2021 13:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by Liou on Mar 29, 2021 14:09:08 GMT -5
This is interesting, it seems like a personality quiz, but crowdsourced! And also a way to go yeet compliments at friends~ Having to narrow it down to only six words makes it a bit challenging and thought-inducing. I get the impression that some of the words used in it might not have kept the same connotations that were originally intended, though, and as Thorn mentioned, there are some oddities in the counterparts between the two windows. So I'll try to interpret the meanings for myself while picking words. Nitpicks in the box. For instance, "able" has its antonym as "incompetent", so I'll be going with competent/incompetent on those two. The Nohari's "unimaginative" has its counterpart as "ingenious" on the Johari, so I'll be using that one as the closest possible option to "imaginative"! I wasn't sure about "responsive" but since it's contrasted with "insensitive" I guess I'll go with. Sensitive. "Silly" as a positive is contrasted with "dull", so I'll take it to mean that someone is fun, entertaining, that kind of silly. "Tense" as a positive is contrasted with "inattentive", so I'm guessing it's tense as in alert and aware of one's surroundings. Likewise, "nervous" as a positive has "blasé" as its antonym, so from that I'll deduce that what is meant by "nervous" is more like investment and concern. If "self-satisfied" is akin to complacency, does "searching" refer to diligence? Or insight? I take full offence, and then some, that "religious" is included as and is paired with "unethical" as its antonym. Also I just plain disagree with simplicity as a failing, it doesn't make sense to me at all.
(Oh and I also made a this one) (and a that one)
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Johari
Mar 29, 2021 15:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by Thorn on Mar 29, 2021 15:34:57 GMT -5
'religious' bothered me as will, I've just been ignoring it. xD I thought this thing was about personality traits? Which that is not? And if it IS supposed to contrast with 'unethical'... yikes!
I was worried with mine that people wouldn't see any of the few positives I can actually identify in myself (and that I would realise I am nothing like I believe I am), but then people apparently see those and plenty more. ;-; Thanks folks! It made me really emotional.
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Post by Ginz ❤ on Mar 29, 2021 16:39:36 GMT -5
Ooh, this is fun! =D I had completely forgotten about it, but I remember making one way back in 2006 when that thread was first posted! Anyway, here's my Johari: kevan.org/jh/ginz2021I decided not to make a Nohari, at least for now.
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Post by Twillie on Mar 29, 2021 18:20:40 GMT -5
You know it didn't even cross my mind beforehand that the positive and negative traits may direct inverses of each other xD If "religious" is an inverse of "unethical" then yeahhh, I've got some arguments against that thinking. Before, my interpretation of "religious" as a positive personality trait was that, while for some people religion isn't a big deal, it can be the most important thing for others. For some, not only is their religion a priority, but they may take great pride or fulfilment in their dedication to it, especially if their religion encourages that kind of commitment. For others to notice and comment on this I'm sure would make a lot of people feel good knowing that what gives them so much fulfilment shows through in their daily life. Like, if someone were to choose "religious" as one of my traits, I wouldn't mind it at all; I just don't expect that to happen since I don't often share that side of my life.
Also lol, with my Johari I find it funny the one and only trait so far that both others and myself picked xD If nothing else, I am confirmed Friendly!
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Post by Thorn on Mar 29, 2021 18:51:37 GMT -5
On the other hand, there's only one trait others did not pick on mine that I chose myself. xD So that was interesting to see! I always thought my self-perception was super off, but apparently it lines up well with what at least some others think, and then there are other nice traits people see that I myself was not aware of!
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Post by Gelquie on Mar 29, 2021 19:18:03 GMT -5
Yeah, if they're 1:1 inversions, I don't agree with some of them either. And some of my definitions may be off from others'?
There are some on the Johari list that I don't think are entirely positive, and some on the Nohari list I don't think are entirely negative. It gets a bit muddled, so I just take the definitions as they come. Since it's come up, "religious" is one of those things I don't think are entirely positive or negative either. I don't cross-reference lists when I give answers; I just pick ones I feel are applicable.
Interpretation is another interesting complex thing, but I don't feel like describing all that right now. xD
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Post by Killix on Mar 29, 2021 20:31:13 GMT -5
I dug up my old one and posted the link in my journal, but here it is again! kevan.org/johari?name=meowth4I never made a Nohari, and I'm fine without one. I will gladly accept the bite sized warm fuzzies, since I don't have actual fuzzies to look back on. XD (EDIT: There, went pew pew and selected the fancywords for everyone who has posted their window so far. 8D)
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Post by Moni on Mar 29, 2021 20:44:15 GMT -5
johari window was conceived of in the 50s; the nohari window doesn't seem to come from the original guys. the FAQ said that the nohari window was meant to be a "rough" opposite to the johari traits; in other words, it's a recent addition. "irreligious" is not really a negative trait (heathens!!! jkjk), so i suspect the guy just picked "unethical" as the actually negative thing to replace it with, assuming certain things about the mindset of the creators of the johari window.
there's a pretty big temporal gap between the creation of the johari and nohari windows. "religious" is not as positive as a word as it once was*, but the original johari window stayed. so when it came time to make a nohari window in a modern context where maybe "religious" wouldn't have been included in the first place, well, i feel this is just a side effect.
*compared to the 1950s. now, it is a neutral descriptor.
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Johari
Mar 30, 2021 0:34:09 GMT -5
Post by PFA on Mar 30, 2021 0:34:09 GMT -5
I mean, a lot of the Johari words aren't exactly positive, as Thorn pointed out, but "unethical" is a pretty weird antonym for "religious," yeah. Assuming "religious" as like, vague religious things like honoring traditions and showing respect to a higher being, maybe "irreverent" would be a better fit... though still not exactly an antonym. XD;
Unrelatedly, I'm surprised multiple people are describing me as "organized." I don't really feel organized, haha.
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