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Post by Twillie on May 21, 2020 18:29:53 GMT -5
My full series got rejected. And the comic I got published last Friday has since been removed from the issue, along with the trophy I got for it. I've been trying to contact the editor asking why it was taken down, but I haven't heard anything today aside from those rejections. I've never heard of a submission being taken out of the NT after being published, unless it was blatantly breaking the rules with maybe a swear or hateful comment the editor didn't initially notice, so I don't know what about my comic they didn't like. At first I figured the missing comic was some kind of slip up, but after the rest of my comics got rejected, I'm starting to think otherwise.
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Post by June Scarlet on May 21, 2020 19:34:52 GMT -5
Oh no, Twillie, when I read your post on my phone, it made me feel a little sick. Your script was so good, and what I saw in the Times and forum so far really brought what I read to life so well. I've read the script, and I can't imagine what would cause it to be rejected. I wish you best of luck navigating this.
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Post by Twillie on May 21, 2020 20:00:42 GMT -5
Thanks June Scarlet! I really appreciate the support and kind words, it’s a bit of a relief knowing it’s not just me being crazy in all this xD I’m not nor have I been raging about it to TNT, but with such a weird situation and so far no real word from the other side, it can be easy feeling the problem is with yourself somehow x3 And thanks, I’m hoping something good comes out of it as well! At the very least, this won’t be stopping me from posting my current and future comic arcs, just a matter of where online they may be found.
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Post by Blueysicle on May 21, 2020 20:34:27 GMT -5
Twillie : Taking a quick look at your latest comic on the Blossoms thread with the harshest, most critical eye I can muster, the only offending thing I could possibly see is the word "sex" on Jonathan's ID? (Even though the word is used in the correct context, maybe Neopets is still kinda strict on use of words like that?) While I could sorta see how that could get that individual comic rejected so that it could be fixed, that doesn't explain why your previous one was outright removed. I'm about as baffled as you are. Definitely let us know how things turn out; I really hope this gets resolved and that the full comic gets published.
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Post by Twillie on May 21, 2020 20:52:25 GMT -5
Blueysicle Haha when I made that panel, it actually did kinda cross my mind if TNT would side eye that x3 I just found a cheeky little thing at most, though, yeah; it still feels like a stretch indeed that it'd get anything beyond that one comic rejected. I'll be sure to! The news section came out with the announcement that they're taking Friday and Monday off for US Memorial Day, so the NT will be delayed, and I fear that may also delay any response I get. No matter what, I'm hoping they'll get back to me with an explanation and I'll be able to take action from there. Thanks!
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Post by doctortomoe on May 21, 2020 22:38:12 GMT -5
I don't know if I'm gonna bother to retry entering mine. It was just something of a lark to even write it up.
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Post by Twillie on May 22, 2020 14:00:16 GMT -5
doctortomoe That's understandable, it's frustrating getting a TMGE like that when you've spent a lot of time and work on a piece. Would you still be open to sharing it, even if you don't submit it to the NT? I'm sure others would still like to read it! Also, a small update from yesterday, but I'm almost certain now that the problem with my comic was the humans. Not that there were too many, but just that there were any at all, I worry. After some time on the neoboards today, I found out at least two others got comics rejected as well, and the one similarity with all of us is that our comics contained humans in some way. One got a TMGE, but the other got the same "inconsistent with NT rules" rejection as me. This is their comic that they've shared to get feedback (I also wanted to share because it is super wholesome and there's no reason it should've been rejected ;w;). I haven't gotten any neomails, but I went ahead and submitted a ticket regarding my removed comic and boosted the ticket number on Twitter. Now to wait some more >>
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Post by June Scarlet on May 22, 2020 15:32:55 GMT -5
Also, a small update from yesterday, but I'm almost certain now that the problem with my comic was the humans. Not that there were too many, but just that there were any at all, I worry. After some time on the neoboards today, I found out at least two others got comics rejected as well, and the one similarity with all of us is that our comics contained humans in some way. One got a TMGE, but the other got the same "inconsistent with NT rules" rejection as me. This is their comic that they've shared to get feedback (I also wanted to share because it is super wholesome and there's no reason it should've been rejected ;w;). I haven't gotten any neomails, but I went ahead and submitted a ticket regarding my removed comic and boosted the ticket number on Twitter. Now to wait some more >> Whew, I can dispel that reason, at least. My comic that was held over has a human in it. So it's not that you can't have humans at all. Unless the editor does a sneak attack and rejects the comic after it's already been held over.
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Post by Twillie on May 22, 2020 15:39:27 GMT -5
June Scarlet Ah, yeah that's good to know! The mystery continues, then >> Although whoof, yeah I really hope they don't do that to you.
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Post by Blueysicle on May 22, 2020 15:41:14 GMT -5
Twillie : That seems really odd. Looking through last Friday's Comics, there are indeed none with humans in them. But skimming through the Short Stories and a few of the Series, there are owners present in a few of them. It'd be really bizarre for there to be a new rule that humans aren't allowed in Comics, but are okay for Short Stories/Series. 0_o
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Post by Kat on May 22, 2020 19:59:33 GMT -5
Twillie : That seems really odd. Looking through last Friday's Comics, there are indeed none with humans in them. But skimming through the Short Stories and a few of the Series, there are owners present in a few of them. It'd be really bizarre for there to be a new rule that humans aren't allowed in Comics, but are okay for Short Stories/Series. 0_o Yeah, that would not only be bizarre but unfair. I wish you the best, Twillie. I hope you get an answer as soon as TNT gets back. It still stings to get 3 TMGEs in the same day but hopefully this means my slate before Aesop is now clean and he can focus on reading my 12-part series, at least.
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Post by Huntress on May 25, 2020 13:26:56 GMT -5
Iiiinteresting - doctortomoe, Twillie, Kat, my submitted-on-the-first-of-May comic also got TMGE'd on May 22nd. I didn't think too much of it at the time (new editor? was kind of a meh comic anyway? resubmit and see what happens) but that's really a whole lot of rejections to be flying out on that day in particular. Gotta wonder if it was a case of a new editor blanket-rejecting everything after an issue got filled up instead of building up a backlog like we're used to seeing. I kinda recall Jade doing the same thing in the past before catching up to the fact that having a nice workable backlog to seed into future issues makes things easier for everyone. (why yes I don't check these threads all that often so I'm a bit late to the TMGE party >> HEY LOOK I brought popcorn.)
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Post by Ebil on May 25, 2020 14:39:23 GMT -5
Yeah WHAT? (About the takedown. I think Hunty has the right idea on your rejection.) Sorry this happened :-( but also WUT
I’ve never heard of takedowns after publication either . Perhaps once or twice for plagiarism revealed after the fact. (I think. I wanna say a comic swiped or traced from Komori, but mb that’s a false memory. Regardless, clearly doesn’t apply.)
It’s definitely not for having humans. I really hope you get an answer in a timely manner because this is a headscratcher.
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Post by Kat on May 26, 2020 5:34:24 GMT -5
Iiiinteresting - doctortomoe, Twillie, Kat, my submitted-on-the-first-of-May comic also got TMGE'd on May 22nd. I didn't think too much of it at the time (new editor? was kind of a meh comic anyway? resubmit and see what happens) but that's really a whole lot of rejections to be flying out on that day in particular. Gotta wonder if it was a case of a new editor blanket-rejecting everything after an issue got filled up instead of building up a backlog like we're used to seeing. I kinda recall Jade doing the same thing in the past before catching up to the fact that having a nice workable backlog to seed into future issues makes things easier for everyone. (why yes I don't check these threads all that often so I'm a bit late to the TMGE party >> HEY LOOK I brought popcorn.) OH BOY, POPCORN Honestly this is making me really pessimistic. I now fear that my series are not going to be read at all and will just be rejected once an issue is filled, and I can't even consider some recent issues filled up considering the "new series" section remains empty. This bothers me a lot because I have so many series ideas all lined up as if I'm making up for all the years I took a surprise hiatus.
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Post by Twillie on May 26, 2020 14:10:27 GMT -5
Huntress Ah, yeah I can see that! Since yeah, it's a very unusual amount of rejections all at once. I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of Aesop's thinking. It does still leave me wondering a couple of things. I'm as confused as you Kat so to why there are parts of the NT that aren't filling up, like new series, and yet yours still gets TMGE'd. In general the NT is sparser than it has been before, which makes me wonder what they consider "full" these days. It wouldn't make sense for Aesop to blanket sweep reject if there are entire sections empty. Maybe they limit based on entries total rather than by category or something? Whatever it is, it's weird xP And then my comics didn't get the TMGE rejection like most others. They were rejected because "there were certain elements of your story that were found to be inconsistent with what users are allowed to post on the Neopets site." There was something the editor found inherently unacceptable in them, like that other comic I linked, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what's "inconsistent" between them and the site rules. They linked me the Terms and Condition page of Neopets to review, so I went ahead and did so. There weren't any contest-specific rules, relevant sections were more about general conduct. It all basically boils down to: respect others, no inappropriate symbols or speech, don't promote anything, don't share personal info, don't steal. Everything I read there didn't pertain to any of my comic's content (not that I saw, at least), so I also refreshed myself on the NT Handy Tips guide. Again, nothing there that I could really pinpoint with my comic or the other rejected one. Maybe romantic relationships if you read too much into a couple panels? But that'd only make sense with my comics, not the other rejected for inappropriate material. Been keeping an eye on email and neomail now that the holiday weekend is over, will have to wait and see when they may get back >>
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