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Post by Mostly Harmless (flufflepuff) on Jan 12, 2018 16:31:39 GMT -5
New plot step. This time it's all about finding Fyora in the woods where you found the mysterious cloaked figure. Here's an idea...
I'm not sure if it's an insane amount of luck on Riel's part and my part, but he found that odd-numbered images point left, and even point right. This worked for me.
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Post by doctortomoe on Jan 12, 2018 16:58:56 GMT -5
Is it randomized this time? I went Left, Left, Right, first and got a dead end, and the second time I went Left, Left, Left, and hit the dead end once more.
Or is it that you always go three spots and it doesn't cut you off if you pick a wrong path early on? |
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Post by Coaster on Jan 12, 2018 18:24:34 GMT -5
New plot step. This time it's all about finding Fyora in the woods where you found the mysterious cloaked figure. Here's an idea...
I'm not sure if it's an insane amount of luck on Riel's part and my part, but he found that odd-numbered images point left, and even point right. This worked for me.
Nope, they just decrease from 3-2-1 as far as I can tell, and that doesn't correspond to which way it points. Is it randomized this time? I went Left, Left, Right, first and got a dead end, and the second time I went Left, Left, Left, and hit the dead end once more.
Or is it that you always go three spots and it doesn't cut you off if you pick a wrong path early on? Nah, it just doesn't cut you off early; you should at least be able to do it systematically still. |
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Post by doctortomoe on Jan 12, 2018 20:44:31 GMT -5
New plot step. This time it's all about finding Fyora in the woods where you found the mysterious cloaked figure. Here's an idea...
I'm not sure if it's an insane amount of luck on Riel's part and my part, but he found that odd-numbered images point left, and even point right. This worked for me.
Nope, they just decrease from 3-2-1 as far as I can tell, and that doesn't correspond to which way it points. Is it randomized this time? I went Left, Left, Right, first and got a dead end, and the second time I went Left, Left, Left, and hit the dead end once more.
Or is it that you always go three spots and it doesn't cut you off if you pick a wrong path early on? Nah, it just doesn't cut you off early; you should at least be able to do it systematically still. Ah, I thought it was like the Faerie Caverns, where if you take a wrong step, you stop right there.
Found her on the 3rd try anyway, haha. |
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Post by Allison on Jan 13, 2018 11:13:09 GMT -5
So I think I know why the infirmary patients sometimes/often seen in the wrong bed. (Okay. Not really. But....) |
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Post by Blueysicle on Jan 14, 2018 15:11:29 GMT -5
Scrappy gave an answer in this week's editorial concerning the Wraith item caps that suggests perhaps raising it (Honestly, I'd say raising it to 100 or so should be sufficient) around Monday or Tuesday, so I think I'll hold off on making any more potions til then. Especially after one of the places during the fog-lifting step ate up two of my potions instead of one because of a glitch. And I'm not about to pay the tens of thousands of Neopoints people are asking for the Wraith items.  Also, I'm just saying: If we end up having to fight a Wraith-possessed Fyora at some point, that'd be so freaking cool.  |
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Post by Huntress on Jan 15, 2018 7:07:36 GMT -5
I don't know why they bother with the capping in the first place, considering how the Infirmary is clearly an item sink. To make sure that people don't donate too much and laggers-behind get to do the achievements? (Well, actually I think it's more to do with the fact that this is their first plot to host and they're learning the most optimal way of doing it as they go. Or both.)
This isn't the first time I've low-key wondered just how powerful Fyora actually is. As in, we've been told-not-shown for years that she's basically Galadriel, all pleasant day-to-day leadership stuff but with PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWAH tucked away in there somewhere. Except we don't really get to see any of that neat powah in action, she'll act as PR rep and spokesperson for Faerie business when she's not currently being zap'd to stone, kicked out of the sky, getting lost in the woods and roughed up by wraiths our dinky mid-level pets have been beating up on a regular basis. I'm starting to develop this wee headcanon that she's kind of a ditz with average powers but an excellent propaganda department xP
(Unless of course she got beaten in the woods by Final Boss Sauron Wraith, in which case we might all be screwed.)
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Post by Jae on Jan 15, 2018 10:07:28 GMT -5
...getting lost in the woods and roughed up by wraiths our dinky mid-level pets have been beating up on a regular basis. ... (Unless of course she got beaten in the woods by Final Boss Sauron Wraith, in which case we might all be screwed.) It's the latter, I'm almost certain of it. We weren't chasing down regular wraiths in the first Wild Woods, we were following the Big Bad, the hooded figure who we saw commanding the wraiths in the video, the one who presumably turned the blue Shoyru from the first WW dialogue into the Wind Rider Wraith. And I agree it is kinda concerning that the Big Bad was able to best Fyora. Kinda screams community boss battle where we all need to lose repeatedly, or chip away Neggbreaker-style with a special weapon. |
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Post by Allison on Jan 15, 2018 11:57:22 GMT -5
...getting lost in the woods and roughed up by wraiths our dinky mid-level pets have been beating up on a regular basis. ... (Unless of course she got beaten in the woods by Final Boss Sauron Wraith, in which case we might all be screwed.) It's the latter, I'm almost certain of it. We weren't chasing down regular wraiths in the first Wild Woods, we were following the Big Bad, the hooded figure who we saw commanding the wraiths in the video, the one who presumably turned the blue Shoyru from the first WW dialogue into the Wind Rider Wraith. And I agree it is kinda concerning that the Big Bad was able to best Fyora. Kinda screams community boss battle where we all need to lose repeatedly, or chip away Neggbreaker-style with a special weapon. The "special weapon" part would certainly go along with what has happened so far with the plot. And what's the difference between "losing repeatedly" and "chipping away?" |
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Post by doctortomoe on Jan 15, 2018 14:37:54 GMT -5
...getting lost in the woods and roughed up by wraiths our dinky mid-level pets have been beating up on a regular basis. ... (Unless of course she got beaten in the woods by Final Boss Sauron Wraith, in which case we might all be screwed.) It's the latter, I'm almost certain of it. We weren't chasing down regular wraiths in the first Wild Woods, we were following the Big Bad, the hooded figure who we saw commanding the wraiths in the video, the one who presumably turned the blue Shoyru from the first WW dialogue into the Wind Rider Wraith. And I agree it is kinda concerning that the Big Bad was able to best Fyora. Kinda screams community boss battle where we all need to lose repeatedly, or chip away Neggbreaker-style with a special weapon. Huh, if that Shoryu was the Wind Rider Wraith, what do you suppose the Skeith would turn out to be? |
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Jan 15, 2018 14:38:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Fyora suffers from the Worf Effect; she's very powerful, so powerful in fact, what better way to show your villain is a major threat than by having them beat her up! Darkest Faerie: The most powerful Dark Faerie out there. Thousands of years ago she was defeated by Fyora and sealed away. When she freed herself, what better way to start her roaring rampage of revenge than by targeting Fyora and Faerieland as one of her first targets. Course, she used more decisiveness than power to defeat her, acquiring a Faerie bottle to trap her while she's distracted with the chaos going on. Who knows how a Fyora vs Darkest Faerie battle would have gone. Xandra: How could a Speckled Xweetok librarian ever pose a threat to Neopia? Oh, big deal, she studied under the Faeries, even Fyora; plenty probably have done that and dwarf her power. Of course, she knew this, so why not turn that power against them? She found just the right artifact to cast a spell that'll petrify all the Faeries! Now all she needs to do is find the second mirror to channel all the power to herself, and oh look, a squad of adventurers looking for a way to undo the petrification so would probably seek the second mirror... Wraith Boss: Granted, we don't know whether it was the Wraith boss who did it... but in order for Fyora to not look like a total chump it has to be the Wraith Boss (or at least the Wraith Bosses's Dragon), so let's give the benefit of the doubt here. Eitherway, the big bad is a member of a species which directly opposes the Faeries who very magic repels them. This guy figured out the way to get around the Faerie's magical barrier is by turning Neopets into Wraiths, thereby bypassing the barrier. So, when should they attack? In the dead of night during an uneventful day? Wait for an opportune time such as Halloween when dark magic is strong/Faerie magic is weak? No, this dude attacks the Faeries on the day of their biggest event where Faerie magic would be at its strongest. This made sense for Xandra as she was using the Faerie's own magic against them, but this dude did it just to prove how powerful he was (though note the Faeries are in a weaker state due to events of the Faeries' Ruin). And now, oh look, Fyora came into the woods alone, time to make a point. Tangent:While we're throwing out random theories, I came up with an idea why Kaia's "The Vision" power is actually way more powerful than we originally joked. Mind you, this is completely accidental on JS's part, to them they might have intended her being just clairvoyant to be special not realizing a dozen characters (and all Light Faeries) able to see visions of the future. However, with the way her powers have been presented, it actually doesn't seem like Kaia is clairvoyant. Rather, she's able to see what's going on someplace else, a variation of omnipresence/omniscience (according to Superpower Wiki, the power is called Absolute Sight, so I'm going to refer it as such). "So how is this more powerful than clairvoyance?" Well right now it's not, it's situational at best and it just turns out it's a time where Kaia can put the power to use (seeing all the places the Wraith are attacking and where the Wraith is). Though Kaia is young and still learning, and even with her inexperience the power is proving to be keeping the Faeries on even-footing with Wraiths (usually our heroes are struggling to keep up or respond to the antagonists actions, but up until Fyora was attack the Faeries had a hold of the situation in thanks to no small part to Kaia). However, with proper honing, she could become a very powerful character, dangerous if she was a villain. How? Let's say she masters her power and is able to use Absolute Sight with no problem. If we were to make the Faeries villainous, Fyora could tell Kaia to spy on all the rulers of Neopia, gaining information such as political agendas, problems with their kingdom, personal weaknesses, etc. and then use that information to blackmail rulers into doing what they want or taking advantage of their problems and weaknesses to look superior or even as saviors. Why stop there? Hey, Kaia, peak into doings of The Sway, Order of the Red Erisim, and The Seekers to see what secrets and discoveries they're up to. While your at it, check the Thieves Guild to see where major criminal activity is going on so we can swoop in and stop it, further making ourselves look like heroes while subtlety creating a police state. Heck, even if you're not evil the allure to know what every major power in the world is doing and criminal activity is going on could easily make the Faeries feel like they're big brother watching. So, yeah, by trying to make a character special, not understanding the site lore fully but also presenting the power in an entirely different way, they may have created one of the most powerful characters on the site, a Faerie knowledge broker. And she's completely loyal to Fyora. Fyora you magnificent deceiver... |
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Post by Jae on Jan 15, 2018 15:08:46 GMT -5
The "special weapon" part would certainly go along with what has happened so far with the plot. And what's the difference between "losing repeatedly" and "chipping away?" It's only a slight difference haha. Losing repeatedly was the standard used for most boss fights - most recently seen in the Obelisk War - where a loss lowers the boss's overall HP until someone could defeat it. Oblivion from TFR was a bit different. If you just spammed losses, nothing would change. You needed to attack him with specific icons, which changed every fight, otherwise his HP would stay the same, or he could even heal himself a bit. You still would lose the fights, but you needed to deal the right icons for the losses to matter. The Neggbreaker was kinda similar to that, except you had to use a specific weapon from the event against him. doctortomoeProbably the Wraith that drops the hitherto-undiscovered fifth ingredient - the bottle of what looks like blood on Taelia's desk - that we'll eventually use to make the remaining potions. Alternatively, maybe the Skeith was able to get away. I personally hope he makes a comeback in Wraith form, though.
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Post by Herdy on Jan 15, 2018 17:38:44 GMT -5
I keep saying it - Fyora was fine in the Wild Woods. She only got these injuries after we dropped her off with Taelia.
Logical conclusion that clears up all the inconsistencies with storytelling is this: There is no real Wraith problem. It's a scam being run by Fyora/Taelia/Kaia/the Janitor. They faked the attack on the Festival (which is why Aethia was so suspicious there were no other witnesses). Kaia doesn't have the Sight (it is Taelia who makes out this is some earth-shattering ability, no one else).
Clearly, Fyora has gotten cold feet. She went to the Wild Woods, knowing from our earlier exploration they are now empty, to think about what to do. That's why she looked sad. Then we take her back to Taelia and the Snow Faerie roughs her up to get her back in line. Taelia can't risk this falling apart now.
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Post by Duke Pikachu on Jan 15, 2018 18:02:48 GMT -5
I keep saying it - Fyora was fine in the Wild Woods. She only got these injuries after we dropped her off with Taelia. Logical conclusion that clears up all the inconsistencies with storytelling is this: There is no real Wraith problem. It's a scam being run by Fyora/Taelia/Kaia/the Janitor. They faked the attack on the Festival (which is why Aethia was so suspicious there were no other witnesses). Kaia doesn't have the Sight (it is Taelia who makes out this is some earth-shattering ability, no one else). Clearly, Fyora has gotten cold feet. She went to the Wild Woods, knowing from our earlier exploration they are now empty, to think about what to do. That's why she looked sad. Then we take her back to Taelia and the Snow Faerie roughs her up to get her back in line. Taelia can't risk this falling apart now. Whatever you say, Xandra. |
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Post by Huntress on Jan 16, 2018 6:24:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Fyora suffers from the Worf Effect; she's very powerful, so powerful in fact, what better way to show your villain is a major threat than by having them beat her up! And the problem with the Worf Effect is that it sort of becomes an Informed Ability if we don't ever see the kickbuttery in action. I've watched TNG a bit out of order so I'm not entirely sure when they started letting Worf actually win fights, but I sure remember him getting beaten up more often than beating others up. At which point I get all "are you sure that you're not just a wimp with excellent PR skillz?" (not that there's anything wrong with that; in fact I'd prefer it from the storytelling perspective because Super-Powerful Rulers of Ultimate Power are already ten a penny, but what are the odds? xD) *can't remember off the top of her head what we've seen Fyora do onscreen as far as feats of power go, but the only thing that comes to mind right now is un-petrifying Hanso* Aside from all this I should also like to know why our grand and wise queen saw fit to traipse off into the woods all by herself when Sauron!wraith is on the loose. Bring a few bodyguards fercryingoutloud, you don't even have an heir that we know of, you're not expendable! (Unless of course Herdy is correct with the faerie mob theory and she tried to make a run for it. Dangit, now I'm going to be sad if this plot twist doesn't happen.) Also, We should still have one more note/murmur/wraith lined up, right? Since there are four notes and we've used three. The Skeith is likely to be the fourth one. And then the Big Bad as the final challenge. |
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