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Post by Zoey on Jun 9, 2016 20:03:52 GMT -5
Ginz ❤ - NOOOO QUOTING DIDN'T WORK AGAIN Eeep! That's so cool that you went to design school! I've always wanted to sit in on classes in one just to see what they're like. ^.^ But dude, if you have Adobe Creative Suite, USE THE DUNG OUT OF IT BRO. I heard that stuff is now on subscription, which is ridiculous. Good luck with your lineless and vector endeavors (post plox on your art thread if you do any, I love stalking art threads), and yup, we'll see if we have room for a thirty-day challenge! Speaking of which... hrm. this gives me an idea. One of these days, we should both work on a lineless piece and have a "show-down" I guess? XD Or if more people are interested, we could even have a thread showcasing lineless art from everyone. IDEAS.
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Post by Twillie on Jun 15, 2016 14:49:01 GMT -5
PFA Lots and lots of drawing them XP Honestly, I think the only way I keep my characters consistent is because I'm drawing them nonstop, so it's basically second nature at this point. I also naturally develop patterns for drawing them, i.e. I always have some feature of theirs that I start with (usually the head), and I follow a certain order when drawing in the rest of the details. For example, I believe Jonathon usually goes: head, hair, ear, neck, eyes, face, jacket hood, torso, rest of body. Not that I follow that order to the tee each time, but it's a general trend that keeps me comfortable. I'm not one to really try for real life anatomy most of the time, but I think that's just from me being lazy XP I'm a fan of more cartoonish styles anyway, but I do know that basic anatomy knowledge is still very helpful in making the characters look more appealing (and that also helps with consistency). I haven't studies anatomy that in depth, and I've mostly picked it up from observation. It might do me good to get some formal training on it one day XD Even when I do realism, though (which takes constant reference pictures), there's always one thing I get anatomically incorrect. No matter how hard I try, I cannot make the eyes normal sized; they're always extra large XD But I guess it makes sense because, looking at what I draw now, I seem most attracted to eyes that take up literally half of the face XP I get almost all of my reference pics from Google XD It doesn't always have exactly what I need, but I can usually take a similar picture and infer what my version should look like (oftentimes with hands I'll need a right hand and all I find are left, so I just flip the image in my head). I honestly haven't thought to look at DA for reference pics, so maybe I should look into that
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Post by PFA on Jun 15, 2016 17:08:32 GMT -5
Lol Twillie, I was actually referring to drawing someone else's character with almost no reference images. XD I actually rarely use references for my regular drawing because I am weird? (And yeah I can draw most of my own characters from memory at this point)
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Post by Twillie on Jun 15, 2016 18:25:10 GMT -5
Ohhhhhh okay, nevermind then XD Hm, I've never really drawn other's characters more than once at a time, so I've never really run into the problem of trying to wean off of a reference pic Not sure what to say for that, but perhaps you could slowly just familiarize yourself with the general shapes of the character. Use a reference the whole time the first couple times you draw them, then eventually draw the general body and head shape on your own before checking to see what finer details you need. My head works best with simple shapes, so that's just how I'd do it XP
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Post by PFA on Jun 15, 2016 19:36:56 GMT -5
I already finished the picture a while ago, I just studied the references as best I could and made an educated guess at what I couldn't see, lol.
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Post by Twillie on Jun 16, 2016 21:18:14 GMT -5
I am seriously off my line art game. At least, for my comics I am. Back in May, I could literally line art a panel in maybe ten minutes and feel good about it, but now even just one line hurts because I can't seem to make it good XP I dunno if I just gave myself too high expectations, or if I really am doing poorly.
Bleh, does anyone else have highs and lows with this kind of thing? It's really frustrating, especially when I'm at the tail end of making these comics and just want them finished (which may be another reason for my lacking abilities).
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Post by Coaster on Jun 16, 2016 22:21:07 GMT -5
I am seriously off my line art game. At least, for my comics I am. Back in May, I could literally line art a panel in maybe ten minutes and feel good about it, but now even just one line hurts because I can't seem to make it good XP I dunno if I just gave myself too high expectations, or if I really am doing poorly. Bleh, does anyone else have highs and lows with this kind of thing? It's really frustrating, especially when I'm at the tail end of making these comics and just want them finished (which may be another reason for my lacking abilities). From what I've heard, the most typical options are either 1. you're out of practice and need to get back in the swing of things, or 2. you're not actually getting worse at drawing, but your eye/perception is improving, so you can critique your own work better than you did before, so your existing skill level looks worse to you by comparison but has the capacity to improve. I think I saw some kind of Tumblr post about it but I don't know if that's accurate and I don't have the source anyways. 8D;
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Post by Twillie on Jun 16, 2016 22:44:30 GMT -5
Haha, I can only hope that it's the second one just so I can feel better about myself XD It's probably a bit of the first, though, and I also suspect that after two straight weeks of powering through comics, I'm just weary from doing it. Sort of how you take your time with the first picture, but by the time you get to your fifth or sixth, you're just sketching it down as fast as possible XP
The question now is how to get out of that X)
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Post by Rabbit ♠ on Jun 23, 2016 9:35:40 GMT -5
Can I say one thing about lineless art? It's sorta fun to do. It takes a lot of work. But it's fun.
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Post by Rabbit ♠ on Jun 24, 2016 9:26:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I finally finished my lineless art. And I wanna show it here. :3 (I'll put this on my page later since I want to put more than one in a post.) If you guys talk to me on the boards, you know I'm applying for a unconverted plushie Zafara. The one I'm applying for, the current owner doesn't want art, but I still made art. So I used her for my first lineless art. Did it turn out okay? I think it did.
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Post by Twillie on Jun 24, 2016 9:46:00 GMT -5
Rabbit ♠ Yeah, I'd say that turned out pretty good I think each shape looks smooth and the colors come together to create one unified picture, which can be more difficult to do with lineless. Also, I like how the stitching on the Zaf looks like scarring
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Post by Zoey on Jun 24, 2016 11:26:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I finally finished my lineless art. And I wanna show it here. :3 (I'll put this on my page later since I want to put more than one in a post.) If you guys talk to me on the boards, you know I'm applying for a unconverted plushie Zafara. The one I'm applying for, the current owner doesn't want art, but I still made art. So I used her for my first lineless art. Did it turn out okay? I think it did. Aww, that's adorable! I think it turned out fantastic! ^.^ As Twillie said, nice placement of the stitches as scars. I take it she's a secret agent of some sort? XD
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Post by Rabbit ♠ on Jun 24, 2016 11:37:41 GMT -5
Heh, thanks Zoey and Twillie. ^^ I tried pretty hard with the shading. Ah, dodge/burn tool. I maaay have gone overboard, but that's just how I do it. Yes, I wanted her to have scars. (She's been through some stuff, man. X3)
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Post by Coaster on Jun 25, 2016 0:56:11 GMT -5
and a stuffed pet at that, ba-dum-tss Good work, there!
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Post by June Scarlet on Jun 30, 2016 16:53:18 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the NTWF Deviant Art page works? ntwf.deviantart.com/Sometimes when I submit stuff to it, it gets in, but other times, it just seems to time out after a few days. I tend not to try to submit to it, because I just don't understand how it's supposed to work. My latest attempt to submit to it with that drawing I did of Kristykimmy is currently in "waiting for approval" limbo, and I'm kind of worried it'll time out like other ones I've tried to submit.
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