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Post by Jae on Jul 15, 2016 18:57:59 GMT -5
Disregarding the content of this article (because I was laughing too hard to read it - didn't want to link to the image directly because it's Getty and I know they don't like that) can we just talk about the picture of Trump and his VP at the very top? They both have the same orange skin and the same mouth-agape facial expression. It's a match made in... well, somewhere at least, and this amuses me greatly. |
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Post by Tara on Jul 15, 2016 19:21:26 GMT -5
Too depressing to think about honestly ;_; . In my opinion they are both horrible candidates. So I guess it comes down to choosing the lesser of two evils.
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Post by Twillie on Jul 15, 2016 20:40:50 GMT -5
So, I'm just curious on this as the answer seems less obvious to me: it's easy to see why people don't like Trump, but what is the argument most people have against Hillary?
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Post by Tara on Jul 15, 2016 20:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by RielCZ on Jul 15, 2016 21:05:23 GMT -5
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 15, 2016 23:22:38 GMT -5
And of course there is her decision to use a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State. No one can prove she intended to do harm or had nefarious purposes but regardless, even the FBI director said it was careless.
However because FBI director James Comey said she should not be prosecuted, members of the GOP are riled up. The electorate may not care as much but it's not a great selling point for trustworthiness. I guess most politicians don't exactly evoke any feelings of trustworthiness though.
I don't necessarily think doing something careless is worthy of prosecution but people will think that.
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Post by Moni on Jul 16, 2016 0:50:01 GMT -5
People who support Donald Trump because they think he's going to WIN WARS or STOP TERRORISTS or BE TOUGH are dumb. There's no other way to slice it.
Donald Trump supports the killing of innocent civilians! Like not as collateral damage. But literally targeting innocent people. "We have to go after their families." He does not understand how terrorism works or what makes terrorism so appealing to people.
Say what you want about Hillary, she and Obama were competent enough not to play into ISIS's hands. If you crack open Dabiq (and don't mind being immediately put on an NSA watchlist (Hi NSA! How are you? I hope you're having a nice day.)), you will actually see them say that the purpose of terrorist attacks is to make governments crack down on innocents to fuel their USvsTHEM ideology. This is why Al-Qaeda bombed Shia mosques in Shia countries, to make the governments crack up on Sunni Muslims and bolster their ranks. It worked.
Hillary supported the war in Iraq, which was a mistake but a common one, and the "war" in Libya (which consisted of us bombing the crap out of them, not really a war). But let's not paint this as something Republicans find unpalatable. One of the only things Republicans gave Obama wider persmission to do was using drones. In Lindsey Graham's words, when it comes to bombing, "Congress should get out of the way."
The average Trumpbot is not going to be against bombing in this way, and Trump has given no indication he'd stop it. Given his carefully-crafted tough-guy, bully persona, he'd probably continue it in an unprecedented way. Donald Trump is a man who has connections to organized crime (but oh ho! #bluelivesmatter rite guys?), has gotten many sexual harassment and rape lawsuits over the years, some with very uncomfortable details, abused tenants and sometimes even caused their deaths. If he does this to citizens as a "businessman," what the heck do you think he'll do to foreign countries? If anyone thinks that Donald Trump is in any way pacifist, they're only fooling themselves.
The choice between Clinton and Trump is the choice between a candidate I'm lukewarm toward and a racist, sexist demagogue who spits dung out of his mouth--I would call him Lucifer in the flesh, but that's really too mean to Lucifer.
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Post by Jae on Jul 16, 2016 0:57:55 GMT -5
So, I'm just curious on this as the answer seems less obvious to me: it's easy to see why people don't like Trump, but what is the argument most people have against Hillary? - Benghazi - The email server - Flip-flopping her stance on issues so she always has the "popular" view (although Trump and basically every other politician out there is guilty of this as well; it was about this time last year that Trump was defending Planned Parenthood while the other GOP hopefuls made up increasingly taller tales about what they "totally saw in the videos") - I've heard her "ties to Wall Street" thrown around a lot - And most grievous of all: She is (or was, at one point) a spoon which as we all should know is the worst thing anyone can be (just ask any Trump supporter on Youtube) ...that last point was meant to be read sarcastically
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Jul 16, 2016 8:47:36 GMT -5
Not to mention that Clinton's husband, a former president, was also involved in a scandal, a sex scandal, in fact. Benghazi and the private email server debacle are even linked to each other as both of them occurred while she was Secretary of State. If I remember correctly, the Benghazi attack are mentioned in the email from that private email server.
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 16, 2016 9:19:56 GMT -5
We have two* candidates that have a lot of baggage. I don't want a racist as a president because the entire world is watching and I would rather not be from "that country." Boris Johnson being foreign minister in the UK is enough. We can't have two crazies influencing the world's international affairs. That leaves me with one choice for now.
* - Gary Johnson is a popular libertarian candidate that may end up in the presidential debates if his polling reaches 15 percent. We may hear more about his ideas then.
So when is the Dem Veepstakes going to end? Is it going to be the witty Senator Elizabeth Warren? Or someone boring?
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Post by Jae on Jul 19, 2016 0:28:34 GMT -5
(ahem) Startling new research suggests that Christianity originated in Europe because only white people have ever contributed anything to history.
Half the Republican party tried to stage an open rebellion to avoid giving Trump the nomination.
Melania Trump completely plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech (in what I am assuming is a bid to fill Michelle's shoes as the "hip and fashionable First-Lady")
And it's only been one day. What wacky, not-at-all-worrisome-because-this-may-be-our-future hijinks will they get up to next?!
(pls just don't destroy progressive field or quicken loans arena. we need them ;~; )
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Post by Breakingchains on Jul 19, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -5
The internet is also now thoroughly convinced that Melania's speech includes a rickroll.
...I'm still rather fond of the "fake campaign!" narrative, but my next favorite conspiracy theory is that this is the work of a saboteur. *eats popcorn*
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Post by Geodude 🌻 on Jul 19, 2016 10:54:17 GMT -5
If I plagiarized source code at work, the consequences would be career ending. If I was rich and famous, I wouldn't have consequences.
Just like how I would lose my job if I chose not to use the corporate email servers. If anything, this election shows how you can get away with anything once you are part of (or a close associate of) the 1%. Guess we didn't need an election to figure that one out. It's just shockingly blatant. Hey at least Hillary Clinton didn't blame it on Trump.
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Post by Yoyti on Jul 19, 2016 11:35:57 GMT -5
If anything, this election shows how you can get away with anything once you are part of (or a close associate of) the 1%. You can get away with anything To prove it is my sport I live to push the boundaries To break the rules, in short One must be something of a bounder If one intends to play this game There's only one thing that one has to have One has to have no shame!My word this election is cartoonish. Can Kurt Vonnegut please come down from the sky and deliver some ironic but heavy-handed message about the lessons learned from this and then just end the universe in some sarcastic and humorous manner? |
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Post by Jae on Jul 19, 2016 16:27:43 GMT -5
If I plagiarized source code at work, the consequences would be career ending. If I was rich and famous, I wouldn't have consequences. Just like how I would lose my job if I chose not to use the corporate email servers. If anything, this election shows how you can get away with anything once you are part of (or a close associate of) the 1%. Guess we didn't need an election to figure that one out. It's just shockingly blatant. Hey at least Hillary Clinton didn't blame it on Trump. Looks like teenage boys in Texas that like to get drunk and run down innocent pedestrians aren't the only ones afflicted with chronic affluenza... |
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