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Post by Huntress on Jul 18, 2011 15:32:48 GMT -5
((Also, changed the title so this would fit this debate)) Hm, this honestly isn't how debates work. You can't really just change the topic in the middle of a thread out of the blue. It's not only confusing, but also shuts out anyone who might want to comment on the original point while others comment on the new vaguely related topic, and then things will just get confusing for everyone, and nobody wants that, right? The topic of kids' and teenagers' overall health is a good topic to cover here, but I'd much rather not see a title change on this thread every time the discussion gets kicked in a new direction, because that way nobody will eventually remember what the overall point was. Also, if you don't mind, I'll change the title back, just so that people who posted under the first title won't be all "wait whut where did the thread I posted on go? D:" like I just did. I'm good at remembering titles but my brain is actually amazingly easy to throw in a loop, as it turns out x'D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 15:34:35 GMT -5
I don't mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 16:15:08 GMT -5
Here, I think, we have two things; what's wanted, and what's needed. What is needed is exercise and fresh air, and teens get plenty of that in physical education classes (at least here, anyway). As for what is wanted ... in my experience, teenagers have generally move on to different social activities. Teenage girls like to sit around and natter, and teenage boys like to sit around and grunt. xD This is obviously a generalization, but at least down here it's considered the norm, and not without reason. Those who wish secretly to play would probably feel too socially awkward to broach the subject, and those who're brave enough to play are in the minority.
Consider that playgrounds don't just magically appear when they're wanted. If a high school wanted to build one, they would need the resources to do this (and schools struggle with resources as it is) and they would need to justify it's usefulness as well as setting aside a time for using it. I know some high schools have endurance courses which are used vigorously during P.E. lessons, and left untouched during the lunch break.
If a school's gonna spend a large amount of money, it had better be on something the majority of students can use and enjoy.
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Post by Crystal on Jul 18, 2011 23:35:00 GMT -5
LMAO, Sarn xDDDD
I had recess all the way up through highschool, so I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of not having recess. xD I had recess because I grew up in a very structured school system, where almost all the kids took all the same classes at the same time, wore school uniforms, and had school until about 3.30 - after which we went to tuition, but that's for another day.
It was fun and we looked forward to it because it was a break from work, but I don't know about wondrous thoughts. That seems a little idealized. The guys would sometimes hang out and play, and the girls would sit and talk, and the more hardworking would do homework. And we'd eat lunch. That's most of what I remember about it... just hanging out with friends.
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Post by Pacmanite on Jul 19, 2011 2:15:27 GMT -5
(I have not read any of the replies in this thread, but I did read a couple in the how much education is enough thread)
I just read the argument that "recess for highschoolers could never work". Whoa! I'm very surprised that in an American high school you don't get a recess break, and can't even imagine having one, because in all the major high schools in Melbourne (and probably the rest of Australia too, but it's not very often I speak to someone from interstate) everyone in high school gets recess. And in years 11-12 we do all have completely different subjects and timetables, but they all manage to fit between the recess and lunch times and the logistics seem to work.
As for which one I would prefer, I'm somewhat apathetic. I've experienced the latter in university so I know that sometimes classes just go overtime and you end up not getting much of a buffer at all. But it's harder to destroy a 20-minute recess. Then again, I don't see anything too horribly wrong with buffer times, so my argument would be that whatever the institution has been doing, just keep the system the same because it wouldn't really be that much worth the stress of a changeover for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 6:24:42 GMT -5
I just woke up, so this isn't going to be the best post in this thread, just as a warning. :U
As someone who has exercise-induced asthma, no aerobic exercise please, I have it hard enough with gym. XD With the amount of classes we have, their length, the amount of homework, the number of students, and the time after-school activities takes up, having recess isn't really feasible. Not to mention most teens would probably use the time to talk, do homework, or smoke. And if someone really wants to excersice, they can use time after school to pursue whatever sport they want.
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Post by Yoyti on Jul 20, 2011 19:39:38 GMT -5
I think it's a good idea for a school to have some sort of courtyard or sizable open area, simply so that if someone wants to use it, they can. It's also nice to have if the PE instructors want to teach outside if it's a nice day, and also provides a place to hang out during free periods. I think, regarding recess, that recess should simply be built into lunch. Students get maybe twenty for a lunch break. They eat their lunch, and then they can roam around campus for the remaining time, doing whatever is within the rules that they wish.
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Post by Draco on Jul 24, 2011 4:47:54 GMT -5
In Grade school I had Lunch with Recess. You eat your lunch as fast as possible, then spend the rest of the time doing whatever. That included things like dodgeball, playground, sitting around, (in 6th grade playing Pokemon cards  ), or whatever else we could think of. Most of my time until 5th grade was playing around. I forget how long we had, I think 45minutes. Middle School (7th and 8th grade) was basically similar. We had Lunch + Recess. However the school didn't have much. It had basketball course, baseball diamond (or kickball if you had the ball), or a field to play football or soccer in (race track surrounding it). Also things like 4square courts and tether ball things were set up. Lunch then was basically purely walking around and talking for my friends and I. High School, very similar to Middle School. Except we could go to the computer lab, club activities, or go to some teacher's class to goof off doing whatever if we wanted. Those who wanted to did what they wanted. In all cases, PE was a mandatory class to take at some point (High School needed 2 years? Or Weight Training + PE). --- I think recess is needed for Grade School. That's when kids are really most active, and need to burn off energy XD After that, they have sports or whatever other hobby they may have. Personally I do find it weird for teenagers or adults to be on a playground. It's one thing to have them on it when no one is around (mainly no kids), but when kids are around, it's really a bother. Either for the kids or the teens. |
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Post by Do I have a name on Jul 25, 2011 12:47:16 GMT -5
*sigh* At least you actually HAVE recess. Middle school is sooo boring. Lunch is fine, I talk with my friends, all that stuff. But recess here shouldn't even be called recess. For 'recess', everyone has to walk around the Track And Field track, and there's no getting out of it unless you're in a wheelchair (trust me, I've tried, and got caught each time). And then when you're done, you can't really play basketball without hitting people in the head, you can't run around, and the most exciting thing you can do is sit by the wall and talk.
I agree. WE NEED RECESS. At least in elementary school we could play tetherball or go on the swingset, but that's only if the little kids don't bug you.
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Post by Abigail on Jul 25, 2011 15:33:19 GMT -5
*sigh* At least you actually HAVE recess. Middle school is sooo boring. Lunch is fine, I talk with my friends, all that stuff. But recess here shouldn't even be called recess. For 'recess', everyone has to walk around the Track And Field track, and there's no getting out of it unless you're in a wheelchair (trust me, I've tried, and got caught each time). And then when you're done, you can't really play basketball without hitting people in the head, you can't run around, and the most exciting thing you can do is sit by the wall and talk. I agree. WE NEED RECESS. At least in elementary school we could play tetherball or go on the swingset, but that's only if the little kids don't bug you. At my old school (I'm going to a different school this year), we usually called what you're describing break. ^^ Frankly, I don't think one needs it after middle school. By fifth grade, I stopped running around and just walked most of recess (wow, I remember doing that!). XD |
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), or whatever else we could think of. Most of my time until 5th grade was playing around. I forget how long we had, I think 45minutes.