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Post by Cow-winkle on Aug 27, 2010 19:53:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this webpage helps: www.library.yale.edu/cataloging/music/vocalrg.htmI've cross-referenced with a book I own on choral composition, and the book lists the ranges mentioned on that page as being the extremes. My book lists the ranges as follows (I'm using scientific pitch notation): Tenor:Very Comfortable Range: G4 to D5 Average Range: F4 to G5 Maximum Range: E4 to A5 Bass:Very Comfortable Range: B♭2 to G3 Average Range: G2 to C4 (middle C) Maximum Range: E♭2 to D4 *finally looks at this* ...Are you sure you posted what the book says for tenor? o.o Because if C4 is middle C, that looks more like soprano. And even then, I know I can get down to middle C. (Of course, I think I'm kind of a mezzo soprano, but still.) You're right, I wasn't thinking and I don't usually deal with vocal music. Sorry about that, I shouldn't answer questions without doing the research a bit better than that. Upon looking more closely at my book (that is, actually reading it, not just looking at the diagrams) it says that tenor music is conventionally written in the Treble Clef, but the actual tone is an octave lower than what's written. I suppose I looked too quickly at the diagram and misinterpreted it. So I suppose the actual range would be: Tenor:Very Comfortable Range: G3 to D4 Average Range: F3 to G4 Maximum Range: E3 to A4 Does that make slightly more sense, and did the link help despite my stupidity? |
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Post by PFA on Aug 27, 2010 20:25:40 GMT -5
……… Great. >_> Just greaaaaat. *Sighs* Is that why I haven't gotten the PM yet? I don't think so. o.o It's probably just taking a while to process all 3,000+ of the PMs. (Ha ha I tried it, too. :B Two minutes, my foot.) I think the system is different since the last time I checked though, which was probably like... three years ago, so I don't know what the system is now. You're right, I wasn't thinking and I don't usually deal with vocal music. Sorry about that, I shouldn't answer questions without doing the research a bit better than that. Upon looking more closely at my book (that is, actually reading it, not just looking at the diagrams) it says that tenor music is conventionally written in the Treble Clef, but the actual tone is an octave lower than what's written. I suppose I looked too quickly at the diagram and misinterpreted it. So I suppose the actual range would be: Tenor:Very Comfortable Range: G3 to D4 Average Range: F3 to G4 Maximum Range: E3 to A4 Does that make slightly more sense, and did the link help despite my stupidity? Yeah, that makes more sense. XD Still is a little odd that the site says it goes down to the C while your book says the max only goes down to the E... not sure which one I'm supposed to believe. |
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Post by Tam on Aug 27, 2010 22:10:43 GMT -5
So out of curiosity, at around what number do PM inboxes start asploding?  I dunno about asploding, since mine hasn't gotten that bad yet... but at about 800-900 PMs, I started getting oddnesses like a phantom "1 is new" notification that only disappears if you mark your entire inbox as "read". xD; |
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Post by Terra on Aug 28, 2010 8:12:09 GMT -5
……… Great. >_> Just greaaaaat. *Sighs* Is that why I haven't gotten the PM yet? I don't think so. o.o It's probably just taking a while to process all 3,000+ of the PMs. (Ha ha I tried it, too. :B Two minutes, my foot.) I think the system is different since the last time I checked though, which was probably like... three years ago, so I don't know what the system is now. You're right, I wasn't thinking and I don't usually deal with vocal music. Sorry about that, I shouldn't answer questions without doing the research a bit better than that. Upon looking more closely at my book (that is, actually reading it, not just looking at the diagrams) it says that tenor music is conventionally written in the Treble Clef, but the actual tone is an octave lower than what's written. I suppose I looked too quickly at the diagram and misinterpreted it. So I suppose the actual range would be: Tenor:Very Comfortable Range: G3 to D4 Average Range: F3 to G4 Maximum Range: E3 to A4 Does that make slightly more sense, and did the link help despite my stupidity? Yeah, that makes more sense. XD Still is a little odd that the site says it goes down to the C while your book says the max only goes down to the E... not sure which one I'm supposed to believe. I'm no expert, but the website does sound more consistent with everything I've heard about music and singing. The "maximum range" as given in the book that Cow cited seems a little narrow. It's only about an octave and a half, and the average vocal range for anyone is about 2 to 2 1/2 octaves. Wikipedia has an article on tenors as well, if you want to look at that. |
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Post by Zylaa on Aug 29, 2010 0:35:52 GMT -5
So out of curiosity, at around what number do PM inboxes start asploding? I dunno about asploding, since mine hasn't gotten that bad yet... but at about 800-900 PMs, I started getting oddnesses like a phantom "1 is new" notification that only disappears if you mark your entire inbox as "read". xD; On the other hand, I'm at 1,827 and have so far seen nothing odd. XD |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 20:03:38 GMT -5
Lately, I've been listening to music while drawing and it's been surprisingly helpful. o.o
Why does music (usually) make it a lot easier to focus? What is it about it that helps with focusing?
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Post by insanepurpleone on Aug 30, 2010 0:00:49 GMT -5
Something I've been wondering for a while but don't really know how to go about searching for..
Is there a name for those things where a sentence trails off and the word that would go in the empty spot has been said earlier in the sentence? That description might not make much sense, so two examples:
- (From a McDonald's billboard I think) Our hotcakes are selling like... [hotcakes]
- Swing don't mean Jack if you ain't got a bottle of... [Jack]
Because I think they're funny and should have a name. xP
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Post by Ian Wolf-Park on Aug 30, 2010 14:29:16 GMT -5
Purple, I believe the three dots are ellipsis (if you're referring to them).
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Post by insanepurpleone on Aug 31, 2010 0:12:14 GMT -5
I was referring to the sentence as a whole (not just the ellipsis, but the fact that the missing word has already been said), although I have the suspicion that there is no name for it and I'm just crazy. xP
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Post by MarillTachiquin on Aug 31, 2010 0:35:32 GMT -5
A silly question I don't dare to ask because it can lead to discussions and, maybe, angry people toward me =S
This questions may sound a little aggresive, due to lack of voice and sometimes, smilies aren't enough. I'm asking this as a "curious kid voice", just to know what's behind somebody's feelings.
Why does people want to have kids? More than "being a product of love", "spreading my genes", "because I love kids", etc. I want to know, really, what's the point of having kids.
Since I don't want to have children because of many reasons, I'm just trying to understand.
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Post by Komori on Aug 31, 2010 4:19:38 GMT -5
Well, there are a number of reasons I'd want to have kids, including reasons like feeling internally that I want kids (I guess it's something like an instinct? I never used to want kids when I was younger). But I think I'd love to raise a child. You know, teaching a tiny human being about the whole wide world, from even the most basic of humanities like learning facial expression (since newborns learn that by looking at faces), all the way to seeing what they make of their adult lives, what they become and how they contribute to humanity.
Also pretty cool is the notion of seeing someone that's half you and half the person you love the most. People love themselves, and they love the person they love (obviously XD), so it just follows that having a combination of those two people would be awesome. XDDDDD Sorry that that's explained kinda' weird.
And, for the most part, people love their parents, at least while they're children, so there's the love you get back from your child. People get pets because they show their owners unconditional love, so the appeal is there in children too. (Ohmigosh, I think this is the second time this week I've compared babies to pets >_>) It's companionship.
Oh, and if you wanna be practical, children can take care of you when you're old and feeble. A lot of people don't like the idea of being completely alone when they're old. (Because your spouse, siblings, and friends are dying of old age around you.)
... Myus, so a few reasons I've thought about. :3 I definitely want kids one day, but definitely not in the near future. XD
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Post by Killix on Aug 31, 2010 4:56:13 GMT -5
It's a strong biological desire. *shrug*
(one that I do not share. XD)
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Post by Pacmanite on Aug 31, 2010 10:21:13 GMT -5
Something I've been wondering for a while but don't really know how to go about searching for.. Is there a name for those things where a sentence trails off and the word that would go in the empty spot has been said earlier in the sentence? That description might not make much sense, so two examples: - (From a McDonald's billboard I think) Our hotcakes are selling like... [hotcakes] - Swing don't mean Jack if you ain't got a bottle of... [Jack] Because I think they're funny and should have a name. xP Zeugma. One word being repeated in a different sense in two or more parts of the same sentence = zeugma. There are many kinds of zeugma, all with delightfully exotic names. The ones you're concerned with are the kinds where the latter repetition of the common word is elided(omitted), so that would fall under the terms: prozeugma - where one verb governs two clauses, and is placed only in the first. Diazeugma Disjunction - A subject noun governs two (or more) verbs, and is placed early in the sentence Then there's syllepsis - AKA semantic zeugma, the funny one, which is when the word that's common to both clauses is used quite differently in the multiple clauses, and very often omitted in iteration. An example I found on Wikipedia was: "She lowered her standards by raising her glass, / Her courage, her eyes and his hopes." Your examples have a lot of force, of course, because the omitted word is postponed so it's placed invisibly at the end of the sentence, so the listener/reader gets a big thick pause at the end of the sentence to fill in by themselves. A bit like the phrases, "friendly fire isn't." or "the benevolent dictatorship wasn't." You can read more about zeugma and find more humourous examples of it on the Wikipedia page, of course =D (*had to study rhetorical devices during highschool Latin class*) |
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Post by M is for Morphine on Aug 31, 2010 10:27:04 GMT -5
*lots of interesting words* That's very cool. Thanks! |
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Post by Killix on Aug 31, 2010 11:39:23 GMT -5
*gains +2 knowledge points* Awesome. |
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