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Post by Komori on May 23, 2008 18:52:43 GMT -5
Pfff, who'd ever think Neopian credit cards would be a good idea?
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 19:06:36 GMT -5
We discussed this and decided that, in the end, as long as it's a 1:1, Neopet-for-Neopet deal, then it doesn't quite matter how it came to be. This is our opinion at the moment, so don't hold us to this forever. The whole Neopet trading thing is new to all of us, so we're still figuring out what is and isn't working and determining what is simply crossing the line.
Oi. How much chaos is this gonna create? [>_<] I think this is alright myself, as well. Nothing extra attached to the Trade. It's like using a Morphing Potion… Oh Fyora. Now someone needs to ask if it's alright to use a Morphing Potion under the same circumstances so we can categorize every single rule that pops into people's heads. [=_=] ...why would anyone ask that about morphing potions? You can just sell a morphing potion, whereas you can't sell a fountain faerie quest. I don't foresee much chaos, frankly... fountain faerie quests are pretty rare. Six years of daily playing here and no quest. Some boards cropping up asking if anyone has a spare fountain quest, some offering those quests, should be about it. Should I ever get a fountain quest, I'll probably advertise it off as well, so that some lucky bugger could get their dream pet. Since I already have mine. As for the thread title, 'This Week's Editorial' actually looks fine to me xD Let's face it, no matter what the week, it'd still apply. Considering the things some people have asked, I wouldn't put it past the border of probability. xD
Regarding Avatars…
How come you havent been releasing more avatars? The last one that came out was ages ago...and I love to collect them!!! I just noticed that whenever there's another Newsflash, they don't announce any new avys, so I wanted to know why! - Es_rpIn all honesty we have just been working on so many things right now that the little details like avatars have been set aside. We will be adding more avatars and collectable cards (we haven't forgotten about them) very soon. Source: Issue #163 [/url] [/spoiler] Drat. I remember reading a more recent Editorial about it, but I can't find it with Sunnyneo's Editorial searcher. [=x=] The one thing I could find was oolllldddd. D: Hi! I'm really not trying to complain, because I know you have put a lot of hard work into making the site better. =) And I think we all appreciate it. However, I (as well as many other people) have noticed that you have been adding a lot of new features lately, when there are already so many problems that need fixing. The Pound has been down for months, the Petpet avatars don't work, the new Neopet pictures at the Rainbow Pool haven't been updated, and I know a lot of people have been getting "page missing" errors a lot. I know that many of us would really appreciate it if you could try and fix those problems (as soon as you can get around to it, that is). ~teme_la_pinguinaTrust us, we're just as frustrated about it all as you all are. We can honestly tell you guys that we are working like nuts trying to get everything done, but alas, we're only human (well, except for Lawyerbot). There are people working 12-14 hours a day (in case you aren't aware, a standard work day is 8 hours). These are real people who are doing their job the best they can. They can't work 24 hours a day. And before it gets asked, no, we can't stop making new content (we have deadlines and goals to meet) and we can't just hire new people. (First of all, it costs more money, and secondly, we can't exactly hire a new programmer and say, "This is Neopets. This is how you make a Neopet. Now, recode the pound by Tuesday, please!") We seriously have not forgotten about all we need to get done... in fact, we have nightmares about it. We're working as fast as we can. Source: Issue #299 Edit:Pfff, who'd ever think Neopian credit cards would be a good idea? How about the person who sent that question in and their cousin? xD[/font]
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Post by xsoulweaverx on May 23, 2008 21:21:46 GMT -5
Pfff, who'd ever think Neopian credit cards would be a good idea? That's exactly what I thought O__o The moment credit cards for Neopia was mentioned, I immediately thought, "Er... no. That's just asking for trouble."
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Post by Stephanie (swordlilly) on May 23, 2008 22:16:29 GMT -5
Okay, I submitted a question to the Editorial:
First off, you deserve a big hug for all the hard work you do to make this site so exciting. =) Now, my question has been addressed once, in Issue 163 - about why new avatars weren't being released. Your answer was that you have been too busy to take care of "little details like avatars". I just want you to know that to me and many other players, avatars aren't little details. They are a very big reason for our time spent here. We have waited patiently enough for you to fulfil the promise you made... but now it is past issue 344, and the new avatars are still not appearing. Won't you please listen to our requests? We grow tired of asking. If you do decide to bestow avatars upon us, I'd suggest a Storytelling, Art or Poetry avatar. Thanks!
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 22:46:15 GMT -5
Yoyote, I'm pretty sure this most recent Avatar drought started loooong after Issue #163. They did get back to them. Then they stopped making them again. Just a note.
They're even busier than they were during that drought. It's completely illogical that they've stopped making Avatars forever, but they're on a big-time hold right now. Which is apparent. :/
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Post by Stephanie (swordlilly) on May 23, 2008 23:00:04 GMT -5
Eek, thanks for the correction. This avatar drought must be just psychologically long, then. =/
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Post by Schefflera on May 23, 2008 23:07:02 GMT -5
Well, look on the bright side. Maybe they'll respond just to defend themselves against the idea that they haven't made any new avatars for nearly four years. They can't all know Frozen's got it covered. About the credit cards, I think at some point there might have been references on the site to eventually being able to get loans from the bank. Obviously, TNT ended up deciding against it, but I seem to remember that they had at least briefly considered a related idea.
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 23:37:00 GMT -5
Frozen? Who's that? [o.o] Wait.
xD Thanks, Schefflera.
Yeah, there was a “loan” system in Banks. It was removed because people were abusing it in ways that TNT outlined. xD
There were also once “Discount Cards” that were sold on Virtupets. I think that may be what you're referring to, Schefflera.
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Post by Schefflera on May 24, 2008 7:45:51 GMT -5
Ah... no, as I said, I meant the loans. Though I didn't remember that they'd ever actually been implemented. I was referring to them being like the credit cards in the sense of being a way to borrow money, not in the sense of being a card.
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Post by soaringeagle25 on May 24, 2008 9:11:56 GMT -5
"Pfff, who'd ever think Neopian credit cards would be a good idea?"
*giggles* And if it did how many n00bs would ACTUALLY pay it off? None, they would rack up millions of nps on hidden tower items and draiks and never save a cent.
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Post by Pacmanite on May 24, 2008 9:31:41 GMT -5
Hi, TNT! Just two questions. I have all nine pieces of the Lab Ray, having spent over 500,000 NP on it. If someone asks me to zap their Neopet for them and then give it back when it turns into the color/species that they want, am I allowed to agree to take on the responsibility? If this is allowed, then am I allowed to accept Neopoints/items from the person who wants their Neopet zapped with my Lab Ray? Both of these sound very against the Neorules, but I don't see anything specific about it, so I thought I'd make sure. ~xppNonono, stop at, "Both of these sound very against the Neorules." Right there, that's good! Continuing on with, "but I don't see anything specific about it" is baaad. If something sounds like it goes against the site rules, just please avoid it. You're very right about both those things not being allowed. Remember, when contemplating if something is against the rules or not, try to use good judgment. Here are some examples: Good judgment: You know, this word I'm typing in this post is just a purposeful misspell of a word I know I'm not supposed to use on Neopets. Rather than risk my account, I think I'll just find a better way to express myself without using inappropriate words. Bad judgment: This person is making me mad! I'm going to use a bad word to show them what a fearsome internetter I am! TNT said not to use this word or a purposeful misspelling of it, but the rules don't specifically say I can't use this bad word on Fridays! Haha, I'm so clever. 2 min later on an alt account... "TNT froze me for no reason!!!" So remember everyone -- if something sounds against the premise of the rules we've set, please... for the love of everything cute and fuzzy in this crazy world, just don't do it! What I don't get about this week's editorial is the question about the labbing someone else's pet. Sure, it's not okay to charge neopoints for it (easy enough to understand why), but if it's totally for free... say you've got an account with all your dream pets, you've finished with your lab pet and you're wasting all these daily zaps. Why wouldn't it be fine to accept a pet transfer from a friend, zap it, then hand it back to them, since this isn't making any money at all? Nothing is being sold. You're just given a pet and after a while you give it back (albeit a little changed). The whole "trust" thing is down to the individual, IMO, like it is with lending pets for avatars.
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 24, 2008 10:58:32 GMT -5
Ah... no, as I said, I meant the loans. Though I didn't remember that they'd ever actually been implemented. I was referring to them being like the credit cards in the sense of being a way to borrow money, not in the sense of being a card. Oh. Alright. xD;"Pfff, who'd ever think Neopian credit cards would be a good idea?" *giggles* And if it did how many n00bs would ACTUALLY pay it off? None, they would rack up millions of nps on hidden tower items and draiks and never save a cent. I'd pay it off.
But then again, you were talking about n00bs/noobs, so yeah. [>>;]Hi, TNT! Just two questions. I have all nine pieces of the Lab Ray, having spent over 500,000 NP on it. If someone asks me to zap their Neopet for them and then give it back when it turns into the color/species that they want, am I allowed to agree to take on the responsibility? If this is allowed, then am I allowed to accept Neopoints/items from the person who wants their Neopet zapped with my Lab Ray? Both of these sound very against the Neorules, but I don't see anything specific about it, so I thought I'd make sure. ~xppNonono, stop at, "Both of these sound very against the Neorules." Right there, that's good! Continuing on with, "but I don't see anything specific about it" is baaad. If something sounds like it goes against the site rules, just please avoid it. You're very right about both those things not being allowed. Remember, when contemplating if something is against the rules or not, try to use good judgment. Here are some examples: Good judgment: You know, this word I'm typing in this post is just a purposeful misspell of a word I know I'm not supposed to use on Neopets. Rather than risk my account, I think I'll just find a better way to express myself without using inappropriate words. Bad judgment: This person is making me mad! I'm going to use a bad word to show them what a fearsome internetter I am! TNT said not to use this word or a purposeful misspelling of it, but the rules don't specifically say I can't use this bad word on Fridays! Haha, I'm so clever. 2 min later on an alt account... "TNT froze me for no reason!!!" So remember everyone -- if something sounds against the premise of the rules we've set, please... for the love of everything cute and fuzzy in this crazy world, just don't do it! What I don't get about this week's editorial is the question about the labbing someone else's pet. Sure, it's not okay to charge neopoints for it (easy enough to understand why), but if it's totally for free... say you've got an account with all your dream pets, you've finished with your lab pet and you're wasting all these daily zaps. Why wouldn't it be fine to accept a pet transfer from a friend, zap it, then hand it back to them, since this isn't making any money at all? Nothing is being sold. You're just given a pet and after a while you give it back (albeit a little changed). The whole "trust" thing is down to the individual, IMO, like it is with lending pets for avatars. I don't get it either, but I'm sure there's a reason/several reasons.
Maybe someone should ask? xD
I'm really glad there's so many people that like to discuss the Editorial. =D
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Post by Omni on May 24, 2008 11:33:40 GMT -5
Pfff, who'd ever think Neopian credit cards would be a good idea? That's exactly what I thought O__o The moment credit cards for Neopia was mentioned, I immediately thought, "Er... no. That's just asking for trouble." I know. There are already so many debt problems IRL… Imagine what it would be like on a site were a lot of the users are kids who haven't learned anything about responsible spending. Though maybe debit cards could work… (Debit cards pay straight from your account, rather than working like a loan that you have to pay off.) It would just save time for people who spot something in a shop that they want, and they would otherwise have to withdraw from the bank to buy it, which I'm sure already happens. …Maybe even the already-existing 'if you withdraw too many times a day, the bank managers will get mad and refuse to serve you' thing could apply. …Then again, maybe TNT would have to make some changes to, say, the Tax Beast that would arouse some complaints. *shrug*
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Post by jdb1984 on May 24, 2008 17:01:45 GMT -5
Hi, TNT! Just two questions. I have all nine pieces of the Lab Ray, having spent over 500,000 NP on it. If someone asks me to zap their Neopet for them and then give it back when it turns into the color/species that they want, am I allowed to agree to take on the responsibility? If this is allowed, then am I allowed to accept Neopoints/items from the person who wants their Neopet zapped with my Lab Ray? Both of these sound very against the Neorules, but I don't see anything specific about it, so I thought I'd make sure. ~xppNonono, stop at, "Both of these sound very against the Neorules." Right there, that's good! Continuing on with, "but I don't see anything specific about it" is baaad. If something sounds like it goes against the site rules, just please avoid it. You're very right about both those things not being allowed. Remember, when contemplating if something is against the rules or not, try to use good judgment. Here are some examples: Good judgment: You know, this word I'm typing in this post is just a purposeful misspell of a word I know I'm not supposed to use on Neopets. Rather than risk my account, I think I'll just find a better way to express myself without using inappropriate words. Bad judgment: This person is making me mad! I'm going to use a bad word to show them what a fearsome internetter I am! TNT said not to use this word or a purposeful misspelling of it, but the rules don't specifically say I can't use this bad word on Fridays! Haha, I'm so clever. 2 min later on an alt account... "TNT froze me for no reason!!!" So remember everyone -- if something sounds against the premise of the rules we've set, please... for the love of everything cute and fuzzy in this crazy world, just don't do it! What I don't get about this week's editorial is the question about the labbing someone else's pet. Sure, it's not okay to charge neopoints for it (easy enough to understand why), but if it's totally for free... say you've got an account with all your dream pets, you've finished with your lab pet and you're wasting all these daily zaps. Why wouldn't it be fine to accept a pet transfer from a friend, zap it, then hand it back to them, since this isn't making any money at all? Nothing is being sold. You're just given a pet and after a while you give it back (albeit a little changed). The whole "trust" thing is down to the individual, IMO, like it is with lending pets for avatars. I think the lab thing was sop they don't devalue the worth of the lab ray If everyone could send their pet to another account to be labbed, well, the prices would fall faster than Tarla's item-of-the-day. And then there's the scamming aspect. They have also released new Avatars. Do the words "Angry Air" or "AAA Gamemaster" remind you of any?
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Post by Jina on May 24, 2008 17:23:43 GMT -5
Hi, TNT! Just two questions. I have all nine pieces of the Lab Ray, having spent over 500,000 NP on it. If someone asks me to zap their Neopet for them and then give it back when it turns into the color/species that they want, am I allowed to agree to take on the responsibility? If this is allowed, then am I allowed to accept Neopoints/items from the person who wants their Neopet zapped with my Lab Ray? Both of these sound very against the Neorules, but I don't see anything specific about it, so I thought I'd make sure. ~xppNonono, stop at, "Both of these sound very against the Neorules." Right there, that's good! Continuing on with, "but I don't see anything specific about it" is baaad. If something sounds like it goes against the site rules, just please avoid it. You're very right about both those things not being allowed. Remember, when contemplating if something is against the rules or not, try to use good judgment. Here are some examples: Good judgment: You know, this word I'm typing in this post is just a purposeful misspell of a word I know I'm not supposed to use on Neopets. Rather than risk my account, I think I'll just find a better way to express myself without using inappropriate words. Bad judgment: This person is making me mad! I'm going to use a bad word to show them what a fearsome internetter I am! TNT said not to use this word or a purposeful misspelling of it, but the rules don't specifically say I can't use this bad word on Fridays! Haha, I'm so clever. 2 min later on an alt account... "TNT froze me for no reason!!!" So remember everyone -- if something sounds against the premise of the rules we've set, please... for the love of everything cute and fuzzy in this crazy world, just don't do it! What I don't get about this week's editorial is the question about the labbing someone else's pet. Sure, it's not okay to charge neopoints for it (easy enough to understand why), but if it's totally for free... say you've got an account with all your dream pets, you've finished with your lab pet and you're wasting all these daily zaps. Why wouldn't it be fine to accept a pet transfer from a friend, zap it, then hand it back to them, since this isn't making any money at all? Nothing is being sold. You're just given a pet and after a while you give it back (albeit a little changed). The whole "trust" thing is down to the individual, IMO, like it is with lending pets for avatars. I think the lab thing was sop they don't devalue the worth of the lab ray If everyone could send their pet to another account to be labbed, well, the prices would fall faster than Tarla's item-of-the-day. And then there's the scamming aspect. They have also released new Avatars. Do the words "Angry Air" or "AAA Gamemaster" remind you of any? On the avatars: The last avatar ever released was Day at the Beach. That was released on June 27th last year. Also, the new Korbats Lab game does not give out the Korbats Lab avatar, and I don't think the D-O-M 3 game gives out the D-O-M avatar.
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