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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 16, 2008 17:33:09 GMT -5
Edit: I've decided to turn this into a semi-weekly Editorial round-up thing where we can discuss the questions and answers. And laugh at them, since they seem to be ever-increasingly sarcastic. xD
Original post is beneath the horizontal rule.
Heehee. I see TNT's sarcasm is back and stronger than ever. [>w<]
Some people who restock say is illegal. Others say only on [the addon] is illegal. Can you please clear this up? Thank you. ~masterxed2We'll answer as soon as we're done smashing our faces repeatedly into our keyboards. Okay, done. We know it's only human nature to tweak, squirm through loopholes, interpret things in a way that supports your actions, etc, etc. When we say, "don't use programs or funky things to help you restock," this does not mean, "try to find a way to do it that is as close as you can come to cheating without breaking the letter of the Neopian law." You guys should all understand the spirit of the rule of not giving yourself an advantage in restocking aside from basic internet speed and personal skill. Just please restock in the way you know you are all meant to so we don't need to buy more keyboards.
Ha! Take that people who were using that Firefox add-on to cheat the site! 
Hey TNT! In last week's Editorial you said that extreme Petpage applications are no longer allowed. At one point you said, "What we mean by extreme includes requests for Petpages to be made for the Neopet as part of the application." Does this mean Petpage apps are no longer allowed, or that you're not allowed to ask for people to make your Neopet a Petpage? I'm asking because I thought the latter, while my friend though it was the former. Can you please say which of us is right? ~ralph89170No one may require/request/hint that an extreme Petpage application is required. If, for whatever reason, you really love making Petpages for Neopets other than your own, then well, more power to you. However, we suggest giving the attention to your own Neopets rather than using it in hopes of getting another one. We really love to see people cherish their Neopets and enjoy them as if they were real, which is why it breaks our heart to see them often treated like pixels, but sadly we can't force people to care about their Neopets. 
Well, they are pixels, but it is sad to see them treated badly. :<
Anybody else think this will hopefully clear the air on some things that people have been talking about for either a long time, or a short while?
Dear Mods. Did I place this in the right board? |D;;
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Post by Avery on May 16, 2008 17:36:17 GMT -5
*sulks* The editorial didn't answer my question. ;_; They never do. And this one I really, really wanted answered.
... okay, totally off topic, but I just had to get that rant in somewhere, and this seemed like a good place. =D Oh, and um, I'm not sure if this is the right board or not. xD Part of me wants to move it to the NT Board, but... then again, I dunno. >>; I'll just keep it here for now, I guess.
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 16, 2008 17:38:09 GMT -5
*sulks* The editorial didn't answer my question. ;_; They never do. And this one I really, really wanted answered. ... okay, totally off topic, but I just had to get that rant in somewhere, and this seemed like a good place. =D Oh, and um, I'm not sure if this is the right board or not. xD Part of me wants to move it to the NT Board, but... then again, I dunno. >>; I'll just keep it here for now, I guess.
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Post by Fam 1741 on May 16, 2008 21:34:33 GMT -5
lol @ the faerie niptor thing xDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 17:20:19 GMT -5
Would anybody mind if I turned this thread into a sort of discussion place for the Editorial? A place where everyone can come and discuss this week's questions and answers?
I don't see what would be against it, but it never hurts to check.
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Post by Jina on May 23, 2008 17:29:34 GMT -5
I think that would be cool. Editorials are always fun. Todays was hilarious, I must say.
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 17:33:05 GMT -5
Yeah, but I want to the the consent of the mods 'cause I'm paranoid like that for some odd reason. [ ;]
I already wrote up a reply to this week's. xDD
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Post by Craig on May 23, 2008 17:40:35 GMT -5
The idea of an Editorial thread is a great idea. ;D But someone should change the title to something more broad, like: "The Neopian Times Editorial" ...so it's more general?
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Post by Huntress on May 23, 2008 17:44:51 GMT -5
Hey, we're the janitors, not the uber-rulers of the forum xD As long as it's on the right board, doesn't break any rules, and gives others a chance to comment something meaningful on the matter, we're a-okay with most topics. So do continue. I've felt the need to make a comment on better editorial-stuff more than once.
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 17:50:42 GMT -5
Yay. Thanks Huntress. 8D
I guess I'm just paranoid about the rules. xD;
*Goes to go edit title, first post, and post my Editorial responses*
Glad this thread has a few people who should appear every now and again already. 
Anybody mind me turning this into a “Let's discuss this week's Editorial” thread? [>>;] Curse my inability to remove that from copy/paste. xDDD
Hey TNT, can you fix the comic for the Lost Desert Plot? I really want to see it again. ~pichu_pikachu_raichuAn appropriate person has been poked to fix it. (Actually, more like a quick jab to the ribs.) Here you go! The Lost Desert plot comic!
AWESOME. o: They fixed it! Hurray! =D *Goes to go read it again*
I've been participating in the Neopian Beauty Contest for about more than a year now... I really love that side account Neopets are allowed now! Thanks so much! I know that all we get now is the trophy. It's a great symbol that people work hard for for their Neopets, and that's the greatest prize of all. However, don't you think that the trophy looks a bit "old fashioned" now? Every other trophy on Neopets looks better then this plain trophy. And all what's written on it is "Best Dressed." What is that supposed to mean?!? It's not about the clothing in the BC! Also, I would think that the overall winners would deserve an extra honor with an additional trophy that doesn't look like the others. It's actually kinda depressing that you work hard on designing and drawing all of your Neopets and get a poorly designed and uncreative trophy in return. Other people in the BC agree. We would like to be considered as artists and wish to see that represented in our trophies.  ~crystal_mimiYou're quite right. Those trophies are getting a bit outdated. We don't know if we can get a unique trophy made for overall winners (we'll have to look into the system for that), but we will request some updated art for the trophies.
That's neat.  I can't wait to see what the new Trophies look like! I wonder if they'll depict a Kyrii in some glamorous pose. xD *Was first thing to come to mind*
Arrrrr the Pirate Jellies still being released at the Giant Jelly? Arrrrr they glitched like I have heard they might be? If they arrr and I unknowingly buy one from a scallywag, will I have to walk the plank (be punished) or have it taken away from me? Thanks, matey! ~jennyspet62301
Arr, we do not be knowin' what ye be talkin' about. Thar be no Giant Jelly in Neopia. If Pirate Jellies were bein' released at something like that, though, ye can be sure it were a mistake and were soon corrected. If ye imagined that ye got a Pirate Jelly from the imaginary thing, then ye be welcome to keep it.
Arrr yer Pirate Jellies be legalized! *Stamps*
Can we vote in the Customisation Spotlight on our side accounts? It has already been said that we can enter side account Neopets, but it is unclear whether we can vote on them for the spotlight, too. I do not want to break the rules, so I won't unless you say we can. Thanks and happy clicking. ~bbenleyWe talked about this at length and decided it's probably best to keep voting exclusive to main accounts. This will keep the rules more consistent, and stop people from attempting to abuse the system we have in place.
Okay, wait. We're allowed to enter the Customisation Contest on Side Accounts? Since when? D: That Pet Page said otherwise… but now I'm confuzzled. [;_;] Anyways, lesson learned: don't vote on Side Accounts. Keep it Main only, plz.
I have a question pertaining to Neopet trading. We're not supposed to trade NP or items for Neopets, I know that much. However, if (theoretically) I got a Fountain Faerie Quest and I had someone offer me a Neopet that I liked (for example, a Robot Poogle) if I MADE them a Neopet they liked (such as a Maraquan Shoyru), would that be allowed? Some people think it's a legal loophole (because it's still Neopet-for-Neopet trading), but others don't believe you're allowed to offer "services" or "potential Neopets" in exchange for real Neopets. Could you clear this up for us? It's kind of a hot-button issue on the Neoboards. Thank you! ~sorenina
We discussed this and decided that, in the end, as long as it's a 1:1, Neopet-for-Neopet deal, then it doesn't quite matter how it came to be. This is our opinion at the moment, so don't hold us to this forever. The whole Neopet trading thing is new to all of us, so we're still figuring out what is and isn't working and determining what is simply crossing the line.
Oi. How much chaos is this gonna create? [>_<]
I think this is alright myself, as well. Nothing extra attached to the Trade. It's like using a Morphing Potion…
Oh Fyora. Now someone needs to ask if it's alright to use a Morphing Potion under the same circumstances so we can categorize every single rule that pops into people's heads. [=_=]
Hi, TNT! Just two questions. I have all nine pieces of the Lab Ray, having spent over 500,000 NP on it. If someone asks me to zap their Neopet for them and then give it back when it turns into the color/species that they want, am I allowed to agree to take on the responsibility? If this is allowed, then am I allowed to accept Neopoints/items from the person who wants their Neopet zapped with my Lab Ray? Both of these sound very against the Neorules, but I don't see anything specific about it, so I thought I'd make sure. ~xppNonono, stop at, "Both of these sound very against the Neorules." Right there, that's good! Continuing on with, "but I don't see anything specific about it" is baaad. If something sounds like it goes against the site rules, just please avoid it. You're very right about both those things not being allowed. Remember, when contemplating if something is against the rules or not, try to use good judgment. Here are some examples: Good judgment: You know, this word I'm typing in this post is just a purposeful misspell of a word I know I'm not supposed to use on Neopets. Rather than risk my account, I think I'll just find a better way to express myself without using inappropriate words. Bad judgment: This person is making me mad! I'm going to use a bad word to show them what a fearsome internetter I am! TNT said not to use this word or a purposeful misspelling of it, but the rules don't specifically say I can't use this bad word on Fridays! Haha, I'm so clever. 2 min later on an alt account... "TNT froze me for no reason!!!" So remember everyone -- if something sounds against the premise of the rules we've set, please... for the love of everything cute and fuzzy in this crazy world, just don't do it!
Oh my, I think I will marry all of TNT now. Is there any place that will let you marry an entire company? For the love of all things cute and fuzzy? *Imagines a puffed-up Lutari* 8D
I've been a Neopian for a little while now and I've always enjoyed reading the Editorials in the Times. I think my favorite responses are those in which you attempt to brazenly display your frustration at having to answer the same question for the 1,000th time (i.e. smashing keyboards with your head, or my favorite, the *head bonk* off the desk). So, just how many times (in any given month) are you asked the same question, and just how do you deal with the frustration of having to answer the same questions over and over and over and over (ad nauseum)? ~wahern Haha, sorta like that last response up there ^? XD Let's go take a peek into the Editorial submissions page... right now, there are more than 500 questions dealing with side accounts, ranging from what one is to "Can I [insert specific activity] on my side account?" along with everything else in between (which those of you who read the Editorial regularly are just about as sick of reading as we are of answering them). So yeah, to answer your question, we get hundreds upon hundreds of variations upon the same questions that we answer week after week with the hope that more people will read and be educated by them.  How to *headdesk* Neopets Staff style!* Step 1: Read question that you've answered in some form or another at least 20 times prior. Step 2: Position head over solid object, preferably a desk, although keyboards and planks of wood also work. Step 3: Swing head in downward motion, impacting forehead against object beneath. (Be careful not to hit your nose.) Step 4: Repeat as necessary. *Neopets does not condone or encourage players to smack their heads against hard objects. We are trained professionals. Do not attempt this at home.
WARNING: *Head-desk*ing may cause fainting, amnesia, pain in the head region, and unexpected hospital stays. Do not attempt without the supervision of a professional, as well as medics on stand-by.
My friend and I had a brilliant idea. What if a sort of credit card was created for Neopets? It would (of course) involve NP, not real money. How it would work is that you would buy the credit card like an item and buy other items with it... like a real one. You'd be able to gradually pay it off, and you would automatically get "bills" sent to you by Neomail. Depending on how expensive the item was that you bought, you would get charged a certain amount of money. If your debts weren't paid by a certain time then the item you purchased would disappear. For example, if you bought a paint brush and didn't pay it off after having used it on your Neopet, then your Neopet would become the color it was before it was painted and the brush would be taken from your possession. As another example, let's say that you bought a Kadoatie an item and fed it to the Kadoatie, getting a trophy for having done so. In this case, the trophy would go away and your Kad fed count would go back to zero (if you had only fed 1). This was just an idea I wanted to tell you. I know people could find loopholes, but I think you could figure them out. ~alex_bethsethSorry, this has been suggested countless times over the years, and the answer to a Neopian Credit Card is still "no." Various reasons off the tops of our heads are: ~What if you trade the item away before you're done paying for it, and are no longer worried about paying it off? ~What if the Pant Devil steals the item, and you still owe NP on it? ~Why would anyone want to deal with the stress of debt in a virtual world, too? Neopets is supposed to be an escape. ~Learning to save your money to purchase the things you want is a much better habit than learning to get what you want immediately and worrying about how to pay for it later. ~There's just no way for us to motivate people to pay Neopia back. What if you only need the weapon you buy for one fight? You could basically get what you wanted, not pay, have it taken away, and then you've successfully abused the system. ~As for the safeguards you mentioned, like Neopet colours and Kad counts disappearing, that's just way too much of a logistical and programming nightmare to deal with on top of all the previously mentioned concerns. So yeah, there's just waaaay too many openings for abuse, scamming, loopholes, and encouraging poor financial behavior to okay such a thing, sorry.
I sometimes wonder how many hours TNT spends trying to figure out all the ways people could abuse things. This, is one of those times. Seriously. They're GENIUSES about how rotten people can be! [ ]
And now, it's time to discuss these questions, and those I didn't include because I couldn't think of something snappy to add to them!
Five thousandth edit: And I'm open to new title suggestions. =3
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Post by Stephanie (swordlilly) on May 23, 2008 18:18:18 GMT -5
Those reponses are indeed witty, and I like how TNT is clarifying things on pet-trading, although I don't necessarily agree with them.
I wish they'd answer some avatar-related questions though, like whether or not they will retire MSPP or make it more affordable. It's also high time they poked someone to come up with a new avatar. xP
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Post by Jina on May 23, 2008 18:25:39 GMT -5
Those reponses are indeed witty, and I like how TNT is clarifying things on pet-trading, although I don't necessarily agree with them. I wish they'd answer some avatar-related questions though, like whether or not they will retire MSPP or make it more affordable. It's also high time they poked someone to come up with a new avatar. xP Agreed. Plus they need to activate the Korbats Lab avvie and possibly the D-O-M III avvie too, although I am not sure. It's like they don't care about avatars any more. |
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Post by Clocky: Activity is a Thing on May 23, 2008 18:35:18 GMT -5
It's not that they don't care. If they didn't care, they'd probably just remove them. Wasted space if they didn't care.
Hold on, I remember an Editorial about this, I believe…
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Post by Huntress on May 23, 2008 18:35:50 GMT -5
We discussed this and decided that, in the end, as long as it's a 1:1, Neopet-for-Neopet deal, then it doesn't quite matter how it came to be. This is our opinion at the moment, so don't hold us to this forever. The whole Neopet trading thing is new to all of us, so we're still figuring out what is and isn't working and determining what is simply crossing the line.
Oi. How much chaos is this gonna create? [>_<] I think this is alright myself, as well. Nothing extra attached to the Trade. It's like using a Morphing Potion… Oh Fyora. Now someone needs to ask if it's alright to use a Morphing Potion under the same circumstances so we can categorize every single rule that pops into people's heads. [=_=] ...why would anyone ask that about morphing potions? You can just sell a morphing potion, whereas you can't sell a fountain faerie quest. I don't foresee much chaos, frankly... fountain faerie quests are pretty rare. Six years of daily playing here and no quest. Some boards cropping up asking if anyone has a spare fountain quest, some offering those quests, should be about it. Should I ever get a fountain quest, I'll probably advertise it off as well, so that some lucky bugger could get their dream pet. Since I already have mine. As for the thread title, 'This Week's Editorial' actually looks fine to me xD Let's face it, no matter what the week, it'd still apply. |
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Post by Jina on May 23, 2008 18:38:19 GMT -5
We discussed this and decided that, in the end, as long as it's a 1:1, Neopet-for-Neopet deal, then it doesn't quite matter how it came to be. This is our opinion at the moment, so don't hold us to this forever. The whole Neopet trading thing is new to all of us, so we're still figuring out what is and isn't working and determining what is simply crossing the line.
Oi. How much chaos is this gonna create? [>_<] I think this is alright myself, as well. Nothing extra attached to the Trade. It's like using a Morphing Potion… Oh Fyora. Now someone needs to ask if it's alright to use a Morphing Potion under the same circumstances so we can categorize every single rule that pops into people's heads. [=_=] ...why would anyone ask that about morphing potions? You can just sell a morphing potion, whereas you can't sell a fountain faerie quest. I don't foresee much chaos, frankly... fountain faerie quests are pretty rare. Six years of daily playing here and no quest. Some boards cropping up asking if anyone has a spare fountain quest, some offering those quests, should be about it. Should I ever get a fountain quest, I'll probably advertise it off as well, so that some lucky bugger could get their dream pet. Since I already have mine. As for the thread title, 'This Week's Editorial' actually looks fine to me xD Let's face it, no matter what the week, it'd still apply. If I get an FFQ I'm going to get the Buzzin avatar. And then if someone wants a Buzz I'll give it to them. |
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I can't wait to see what the new Trophies look like! I wonder if they'll depict a Kyrii in some glamorous pose. xD *Was first thing to come to mind*