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Post by ncwidt5895 on Dec 11, 2004 1:38:18 GMT -5
What's your view on plastic surgery? It's been a semi-big topic in the media lately.
I personally think it's wrong. Beauty is overrated; why cut into your face and inject poison into your brain cells just to look "good"? And with liposuction and such-- don't even get me started.
It's fine to want to be pretty. But spending thousands upon thousands of dollars just to reshape your face and lift your eyebrows is ridicolous. I don't care if you think you're so ugly-- unless the situation is very severe (i.e. a burn victim) and plastic surgery is almost necessary, I don't think that people should be resculpting themselves.
You are who you are and you shouldn't try to change that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2004 2:02:19 GMT -5
I mainly agree with you, except for "you shouldn't try to change that. " I think it's okay to change your appearance, as long as you do it the natural way. If you think you're too chubby, do sports, don't go to a surgeon. For other problems there are other ways to change your appearance as well. Nature knows what's the best for us.
Our appearance is what we first show to new people. And who would want to show them "I have so low selfesteem, that I went to a doctor and got some."
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Post by Kiddo on Dec 11, 2004 2:17:27 GMT -5
People do crazy things to "perfect" their appearance. In some cases it is actually a disorder - called body dismorphic disorder if I remember correctly. I do believe plastic surgery is wrong in that case as it's not really addressing the problem.
However, there's nothing wrong with plastic surgery to fix something that might actually need work. I believe my aunt got plastic surgery on her nose (granted, it was already broken at that time) and my parents have offered to get plastic surgery on my knee. (I have some rather ugly scars that have always been a bit of an embarressement - I don't want to get rid of them though, more trouble than it's worth)
I don't think surgery just to get rid of some extra pounds is a good idea at all though. Either learn to live with your body or fix that up naturally.
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Post by Oily on Dec 11, 2004 6:47:06 GMT -5
Kind of divided here. I mean, no one is perfect. It's stupid to try and remodel our own faces to make ourselves look like someone else. But, if there's a scar, or one flawed feature, then sometimes it is best to remove it, if it makes you feel happier. If you have a really hooked nose, and you despise it, then a little plastic surgery may make a big difference to you. If you're in the showbiz world, I can understand why you feel you can't dare to age, and so Botox yourself up.
I think it's best to exercise rather than go for liposuction though, and some plastic surgery is taken too far.
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Post by Buddy on Dec 11, 2004 7:58:36 GMT -5
I think plastic surgery is similar to suing or eating fast food - its okay in small portions, but when an entire society turns to it in large doses simply because its the easy way out, then we have an issue.
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Dec 11, 2004 9:25:40 GMT -5
I personally don't believe in it. I don't really like make-up or body piercings or any of those things, so of course THIS weirds me out. I have opted to keep myself 100% natural, simply because the idea is appealing to me. However, I think it would be dogmatic for me to proclaim the practice of plastic surgery "wrong," and God knows how I despise dogma!
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Post by Killix on Dec 11, 2004 14:32:49 GMT -5
If you have the money, I say go for it. It's your body and you should be able to do almost whatever you want to it.
and some people need plastic surgery to fix things. Like say if you were mangled in a car accident, plastic surgery can fix your face up for you. ;D
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Post by cannonsmbt on Dec 13, 2004 15:24:25 GMT -5
everyone is lovley with out it if you ask me there is no such thing as ugly but if you wish you go for it!
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Post by Smiley on Dec 13, 2004 16:49:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty divided here as well. I think that if you have a little feature that's been bugging you, like your nose or a crooked eyebrow, and a little bit of plastic surgery will make you feel better, go for it. When you start changing everything (like on the Swan... *shudder* they look like zombies), then you have some issues that mere plastic surgery cannot correct.
Liposuction, I think, is good for extreme cases, like when your weight becomes so immense that you can't even get up to exercise. Of course, you should start exercising long before that, but even so, a person who is going to die from their weight should be able to get surgery to fix it.
Also, I know some people (through TV, of course) who lost hundreds of pounds, but had lots of extra skin hanging everywhere. They should definitely be able to get plastic surgery, as they have already taken the initiative to lose the weight and start eating healthy foods.
As for breast enlargement... why? They're much more of a hassle than a blessing, trust me.
In the end, I can't control how other people spend their money. Throw it away on senseless "beauty" for all I care - frankly, I'd rather just be happy with myself than happy with someone else's body.
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Post by Jessica Coconut on Dec 14, 2004 23:32:31 GMT -5
No. Just no. I agree that the natural look is better. Flaws, imperfections, quirks and all. Make us different and special.
Here's something for you to think on. I read this article once about women that go through potentially crippling operations and surgeries to make themselves taller, or legs longer (same effect). I was absolutely disgusted at this idea. Absolutely. And that's really saying something, because I'm one of the short ones at 4'11"-5'0" at age 15.
I would NEVER, EVER do something like that. I've gotten used to being short. Yeah, I wish I was taller sometimes. But I'm happy the way I am. I've learned not to let people bug me about it. In fact, you're in trouble if you do.
Unless it's for health reasons, it's a bad idea.
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Post by Komori on Dec 15, 2004 9:29:23 GMT -5
No. Just no. I agree that the natural look is better. Flaws, imperfections, quirks and all. Make us different and special. Here's something for you to think on. I read this article once about women that go through potentially crippling operations and surgeries to make themselves taller, or legs longer (same effect). I was absolutely disgusted at this idea. Absolutely. And that's really saying something, because I'm one of the short ones at 4'11"-5'0" at age 15. I thought that leg elongating thing was for dwarfish people. You know, the ones who have the clinical shortness or whatever. But yeah, leg elongating would be weird. It would blow your body out of proportion. (Unless you had my proportions, where my legs are too short for my body anyway. ) If people wanna do liposuction, I say go for it. It's really really gross, and very dangerous, and can permanently damage the tissues under the skin, but hey. Their bod, not mine. Same goes for that stomach stapling stuff. O. M. G. So gross. And dumb. You have your stomach permanently stapled, so it's only a tenth of its normal size, so that you are physically unable to eat more than a couple of spoonfulls of food at a time. Great. And once you're skinny from practically starving yourself, then what happens? You still can only eat like a bird. Brilliant, genious, so much for thinking that one all the way through. As for surgery for the face... Eh. Whatev. Go for it. But they ought to realize that their faces will look like puffy watermelon heads for a long while. Have fun.
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Post by Linnen Malfoy on Dec 15, 2004 15:16:12 GMT -5
Though I feel that no one should ever do it to make themselves 'feel' perfect, it is the choice of the individual person.
It would be nice that everyone is accepted for who they are, however I guess that at least in today's society one can only hope that people would take plastic surgery with responisblity.
I know a dear friend of mine who had minor surgery on her nose to remove a lump. She was minorly self concious about it, and having it removed she felt a lot better about herself. That, but no means, makes her an awful or shallow person, she simply wanted to present a better image about herself.
My mom asked if I coudl consider having plastic surgery on my nose (I have a big bump on my nose which, from the side, is rather ugly), but I declined. I'm content with who I am, and that is that. It's really a choice to each person, and it's whatever you do to make yourself happy. Some would think that by adding highlights to my hair I could indeed be on the same road as plastic surgery, but I like how I look with highlights, and, when I'm happy with myself, then I can truly live a better life. In today's society, though it's sad that people need to really 'feel' happy about their appearance, if someone decided to use plastic surgery to make themselves happier, then I would allow them to go with it. My friend is much happier about herself and finds that she looks a lot nicer. The surgery ended with her nose (but she was very sorry that she couldn't go fencing for a year) and hasen't spread to other places. I suppose that is the true mark of plastic surgey happiness, deciding when to stop.
But why would it be dumb? The surgery is for people who are morbidly obease and have exhausted all other roads of trying to loose weight (exercise, watching their intake). It's a very difficult lifestyle because you constantly need to watch how much you eat and have to cut out a lot of foods from yoru diet (I belive acidic foods are not allowed because of what it would do to the stomach).
I think that stomach stapling isn't really cosmetic surgery as it has a true medical purpose. It's high intensive surgey, not really like an outpaitent thing such as liposuction or a nose job.
AL Roker did the surgery and he isn't 'skinny', he's simply normal. The surgery only helped a bit, I belive he's on a stric diet and excercise regiment.
It's a serious life-style change. Moreso, it's not something which someone can 'choose' to do, they need to be determined by a doctor...
(from goaskalice.com)
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Post by Komori on Dec 15, 2004 15:38:56 GMT -5
I think that stomach stapling isn't really cosmetic surgery as it has a true medical purpose. It's high intensive surgey, not really like an outpaitent thing such as liposuction or a nose job. It's a serious life-style change. Moreso, it's not something which someone can 'choose' to do, they need to be determined by a doctor... .... Well, okay, I guess it doesn't fall under plastic surgery exactly. But it's still pretty drastic, don't you think? I mean, it's painful, it's drastic, and it's pretty life-changing, especially since it's permanent. I mean, if you hired a personal trainer, he could help you on diets. Or even better, hire a retired drill seargent. You won't be able to eat as much, but you won't have to permanently alter your body. ;D I mean, what'll happen to those people when one day they wish they could just sit down and have a piece of pie? And when they go to restaurants, they order their food, and only have a couple of bites, then they have to take the rest home. ;___; How tragic.
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Post by Linnen Malfoy on Dec 15, 2004 17:16:28 GMT -5
.... Well, okay, I guess it doesn't fall under plastic surgery exactly. But it's still pretty drastic, don't you think? I mean, it's painful, it's drastic, and it's pretty life-changing, especially since it's permanent. I mean, if you hired a personal trainer, he could help you on diets. Or even better, hire a retired drill seargent. You won't be able to eat as much, but you won't have to permanently alter your body. ;D The surgery is only give as a last chance. Those who have the surgery must have exhausted all other opportunities. Most of them have tried dieticians, trainers, and other things. It is drastic, but then again any dieting plan is drastic. Dieting is constantly a life changing experiance as to properly keep weight off, one must always eat properly and exercise. But some people do have very hard times exercising. I was reading some information about it and one paitent who was obease had the surgery due to their clubbed foot, which made it almost impossible for them to have any results with high impact exercise.
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Post by Crystal on Dec 16, 2004 2:04:31 GMT -5
My dad offered to get me surgery once to get rid of an old, crater-like scar on my forehead which I got when I was a child (so as I grow it gets bigger). I said no, purely because even though I want to be rid of the scar, the idea of cutting off my own skin there just weirds me out.
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