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Post by Tahu on Nov 3, 2004 19:40:50 GMT -5
No offense intended here, but I would love to see someone actually carry through with those statements. I hear so many of them in regards to politics and I just think it'd be hilarious if someone actually did move out of the country because Bush was elected. You might see it with me. I am really begging my parents to either let me move to Canada, or to petition for CT to quit the US and become a part of Canada... Well, I'll but it this way. Bush has fairly been elected to one term in office since 2000.
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Post by Rider on Nov 3, 2004 19:58:40 GMT -5
No offense intended here, but I would love to see someone actually carry through with those statements. I hear so many of them in regards to politics and I just think it'd be hilarious if someone actually did move out of the country because Bush was elected. [glow=red,2,300]My friends and I have this plan. If Bush gets re-elected and reinstates the draft, we're gonna steal my parents' car, drive to Missouri, pick up my friend Cathy, then flee to French Canada and assume names like Jean-Pierre and Jacques. ;D[/glow]
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Post by Luna on Nov 3, 2004 20:39:57 GMT -5
No offense intended here, but I would love to see someone actually carry through with those statements. I hear so many of them in regards to politics and I just think it'd be hilarious if someone actually did move out of the country because Bush was elected. I've actually started planning for that. If there's a draft, I'm cashing in my savings bonds, withdrawing my US citizenship, applying for a European citizenship, and moving there and never coming back. My school newspaper took a poll that made me want to vomit. Most of the kids are pro Bush which I have no problem with. But one of them said they'd vote for him just because he's a good Christian. Policy doesn't matter and only faith does? I'm sorry but that just makes me laugh until my ribs hurt.
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Post by Tahu on Nov 3, 2004 21:05:30 GMT -5
I've actually started planning for that. If there's a draft, I'm cashing in my savings bonds, withdrawing my US citizenship, applying for a European citizenship, and moving there and never coming back. My school newspaper took a poll that made me want to vomit. Most of the kids are pro Bush which I have no problem with. But one of them said they'd vote for him just because he's a good Christian. Policy doesn't matter and only faith does? I'm sorry but that just makes me laugh until my ribs hurt. Ya think thats bad? There were much worse in my school election. Lets see... Kerry, because he is taller. Bush, because he/her parents told he/her to. Bush, because he is a smart man. Kerry, because he seemed nice on the TV, although his daughter is kind of strange. Bush, because he is "da bomb"
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Post by Linnen Malfoy on Nov 3, 2004 21:21:32 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]My friends and I have this plan. If Bush gets re-elected and reinstates the draft, we're gonna steal my parents' car, drive to Missouri, pick up my friend Cathy, then flee to French Canada and assume names like Jean-Pierre and Jacques. ;D[/glow] The draft is nothing more than a rumor. Time and time again it's been started that it was simply started by someone who wanted to sway young voters into voting Kerry. Besides, I doubt, even if Bush wanted to, he'd be able to. He's probably be bludgeoned alive before he could even utter the sentence suggesting it. There is no draft guys. Heck, I'm a democrat and even I know that. I voted for Kerry because Edwards is so pretty and snuggly I belive John Kerry can bring us into the future. *hides issue of Tigerbeat with John Edwards poster*
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Post by mrsfluff on Nov 3, 2004 22:00:10 GMT -5
Well, I'm just glad it's over. Seriously. -.- There's one thing I have to get out of my system, though... sure, the Bush people are tired of whining, but wouldn't they be doing the same thing had Kerry won? What *I'm* tired of is hearing people gloating about how Bush won, constantly. Kerry supporters are crushed right now, and hearing people bragging and saying that Democrats are all idiots really, really hurts. I'm not saying the people on this forum do that (though I get the idea that a few people may think that), but I hear it all over the place. It's a free country. Republicans can celebrate, but Democrats have every right to be sad or disappointed. Everyone in the political spectrum is convinced that they're right, and it's impossible for people to just suck it up and get over the results of the election, if they're not happy with the turnout. This is the future of America, all decided by a small amount of people. By the way, I've honestly been wanting to move to Canada for a couple of years now, and I would if I could Maybe I'll be able to when I'm older.
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Post by The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2004 22:09:41 GMT -5
It's too bad that people feel that way about a man none of you have ever met, (unless I am unaware).
Still, given that this was the first presidential election, in which I could legally vote, it made me feel glad to make at least one man happy. There's a certain good feeling you get, when you make others happy, even if all they ever did was made you mad or sad.
I am happy that Kerry knew when enough was enough, and bowed out, unlike "Mr. Ozone," otherwise known as Al Gore. Perhaps if he runs again, I will vote for him, especially if he can get John McCain on his side in 2008.
Nevertheless, I'll still be watching Bush like a hawk. I voted for him, to give him a chance to clean up the mess he made in Iraq. "Fix what you break," I always say.
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Post by Tron on Nov 3, 2004 22:27:56 GMT -5
I really dislike all three canidates- but I'd have to go with Kerry. Nader wasn't even on the ballot in North Carolina. My friends were all saying how they would have voted for Nader if they could, but I really don't see why- I personally think that Nader should have just dropped out. My friends and classmates go on about how Nader would've made marijuana legal... but, they're pretty ignorant, but anyway... I just don't like Nader, and I don't think he should have ran, even though he only got... what... 0.3% of all votes? He just took away votes from the other two canidates. I don't like Bush very much. I disagree with some of his views- moreso than Kerry's. Like... with the "War on Terror" and whatnot. It clearly seemed like he was saying the "War on Terror" was about Iraq, which had no WMD, while other places were just screaming "WE CAN BLOW YOU UP AND STUFF!" Well. Not really... but... they had WMD, and they made it noticed and everything. He went after Iraq, even though a bigger threat was shown. And that bin Laden tape they announced last Friday. It reminded me mostly that Bush had failed to catch bin Laden, and he was still alive and probably perfectly healthy. He was in those mountains a few years ago, but I think Bush didn't even really go after him at all. And so he's still alive, still a threat, and we're still trying to clean up Iraq after everything. Or at least what has happened already. Then there's the job crisis and taxes. I heard yesterday during Social Studies that this has been the most jobs lost since the Great Depression- and there was a real big reason for that. We spent millions of dollars on stuff for Iraq, while jobs decreased. As with taxes, mostly "rich" people in the United States will benefit from them. I know I may be wrong on some of these things, but I haven't really gone through all the facts. So correct me if I'm wrong or something, but don't lash out in my face and scream "DUDE THAT'S WRONG HOW DARE YOU!" But of course, we'll have to live with this. All the disappointed people that were supporting Kerry that say they're going to move to Canada can't ALL go live there. So stop whining about it. Either actually do something or just not continue with your whining. Plus I don't think a lot of your parents would let you move to Canada JUST because you don't like Bush and his views
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Post by Smiley on Nov 3, 2004 22:44:59 GMT -5
The draft is nothing more than a rumor. Time and time again it's been started that it was simply started by someone who wanted to sway young voters into voting Kerry. Besides, I doubt, even if Bush wanted to, he'd be able to. He's probably be bludgeoned alive before he could even utter the sentence suggesting it. There is no draft guys. Heck, I'm a democrat and even I know that. I voted for Kerry because Edwards is so pretty and snuggly I belive John Kerry can bring us into the future. *hides issue of Tigerbeat with John Edwards poster*Precisely. And if the need for a draft truly became inevitable, and I was drafted, I would go. I'm willing to fight for my country if ever there was a need. (I really hope there won't be, and I'm pretty sure there won't be, but if they need me I'll be there) John Edwards bugs me. Yeah, okay, he's attractive, but his accent annoys me, and above that, he's totally tactless. My mom thinks that George Stefanopolis is hot. Lord help us. When it comes to politics, though, to think that anyone is truly "hot"... that's just freaky, and worthy of a mental institution. It reminds me of SNL with a skit where four high school girls were poring through some teen magazine, which had pictures of business C.E.O.s... "Wow, that one is HOT!" They were old, wrinkly, and balding. *twitch* Politics/business + physical attraction = WRONGNESS Oh, and one more thing... www.deviantart.com/deviation/4788927/Interesting read, I highly recommend it.
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Post by Linnen Malfoy on Nov 4, 2004 7:38:51 GMT -5
I am happy that Kerry knew when enough was enough, and bowed out, unlike "Mr. Ozone," otherwise known as Al Gore. Perhaps if he runs again, I will vote for him, especially if he can get John McCain on his side in 2008. Chances are he won't. Most likely Hilary Clinton will run in 2008. That, I'm sure, will be a dismial failure. Though Clinton is popular with democrats, I doubt that many people want a female president (gender biase still exists in many parts of the country).
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Post by mrsfluff on Nov 4, 2004 8:29:31 GMT -5
Chances are he won't. Most likely Hilary Clinton will run in 2008. That, I'm sure, will be a dismial failure. Though Clinton is popular with democrats, I doubt that many people want a female president (gender biase still exists in many parts of the country). *sigh* That's the sad truth. But I'm hoping she'll run anyway. If we ever want a woman for president, we have to start trying sometime, right? ^_^
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Post by Komori on Nov 4, 2004 8:48:40 GMT -5
Most of the kids are pro Bush which I have no problem with. But one of them said they'd vote for him just because he's a good Christian. Policy doesn't matter and only faith does? I'm sorry but that just makes me laugh until my ribs hurt. Religion influences policy, you know, for the ones who are deeply religious. Heck, I'd vote for Bush because of his strong Christian views (I tried voting, but my absentee ballot didn't get here on time. -__-) . I think what you don't realize here is that to Christians, our religion is the most important aspect of our life (or, it should be.) I mean, it dictates how we should act, treat others, live our life, and how we view death. So it would go without saying that it would also affect who we choose for a candidate. Both parties, to me, have good points about policy. I'm swayed either way with their politics, but at least if I choose someone who is Christian, their views will equal mine on a spiritual perspective, and that's all that matters.
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Post by Nobody important on Nov 4, 2004 14:21:06 GMT -5
Religion influences policy, you know, for the ones who are deeply religious. Heck, I'd vote for Bush because of his strong Christian views (I tried voting, but my absentee ballot didn't get here on time. -__-) . I think what you don't realize here is that to Christians, our religion is the most important aspect of our life (or, it should be.) I mean, it dictates how we should act, treat others, live our life, and how we view death. So it would go without saying that it would also affect who we choose for a candidate. Both parties, to me, have good points about policy. I'm swayed either way with their politics, but at least if I choose someone who is Christian, their views will equal mine on a spiritual perspective, and that's all that matters. It's funny to see such wide Christian support from Bush in America when most Christians here in the UK dislike Bush very much so (along with the rest of the population.) I'm a Christian and out of my friends at school, I am probably one of those that have the strongest views against Bush, so do my family who also all are Christians. Apart from all the reasons that the whole population of this country dislike and even hate him, such as Iraq, his ignoring of environment issues and the fact that he just is not intelligent enough to be the most powerful man in the world, I also dislike the way he seems to pick and choose from the Bible. Yes he doesn't support gay marriages and abortion etc but what about the death penalty? Surley it is wrong to kill, but maybe that part of the Bible doesn't really matter to Bush. One thing I found interesting about the election was the exit polls. The only race that had a majority for Bush was white. Every other race supported Kerry, especially African Americans. 89% of Black voters voted for Kerry. I thought that was very interesting.
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Post by theunorthodox on Nov 4, 2004 15:02:14 GMT -5
Bush because he can catch a football. Kerry because they like his wife's ketchup.
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Well, I guess I'm one of the few who're kinda glad that Bush won. If Kerry did get into office his new financial aid policies would see that I could never afford college again. According to him, my family is 'too rich' to get the Perkins loan and the Pell grant. Psh...'Mr. on the Top 300 Richest list' says I'm too rich when I have to choose between food and gas money every day, usually the latter and I starve....bullsh*t.
Don't get me wrong though. I don't like either canidates, but at least with Bush I can continue my education...unless he does something stupid.
I don't like Hilary at all. I'd be ticked if she represented my sex as the first female president. She screams like a banshee when she gets fired up. I'm still ticked she's my friggen Senator.
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Post by Ikkin on Nov 4, 2004 15:31:59 GMT -5
Chances are he won't. Most likely Hilary Clinton will run in 2008. That, I'm sure, will be a dismial failure. Though Clinton is popular with democrats, I doubt that many people want a female president (gender biase still exists in many parts of the country). I doubt Hillary Clinton could be President. But I don't think it's right to blame the low likelyhood on her being female. I doubt that there are too many people in the US who would vote against someone simply because they're female, and it's not really fair to people who have other reasons why they would rather vote for a log. I mean, I'm female myself, so I have no reason for such an antifemale bias, but if that lady became President, the only think that could get me through her four years is the ability to call Bill Clinton the First Lady. She scares me... I also dislike the way he seems to pick and choose from the Bible. Yes he doesn't support gay marriages and abortion etc but what about the death penalty? Surley it is wrong to kill, but maybe that part of the Bible doesn't really matter to Bush. One thing I found interesting about the election was the exit polls. The only race that had a majority for Bush was white. Every other race supported Kerry, especially African Americans. 89% of Black voters voted for Kerry. I thought that was very interesting. Not much Bible knowledge, I see. Here, from Exodus 21: Whatever else you say against Bush as to picking and choosing, you can't say the Death Penalty is against his views. Minorities always tend to vote Democrat, especially Blacks. Besides, exit polls aren't that great of a method- there were some problems with them this time. The exit polls were predicting a Kerry win, for instance, so they should be taken with a grain of salt.
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