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Post by Stal on Sept 9, 2004 20:43:41 GMT -5
While I think that the warning should have been sufficiant, there is a differance between general freedom of speach, and what you are allowed to say in a privately owned forum. When you signed up here, you submitted your consent to abide by the laws of the board. Wherein I didn't choose to be born in this country or othewise and most certiantly didn't submit consent or a desire to join. It's like hearing those Neoboard people whine. You signed up for it, you have to obey the rules. As it is, I don't think it should have been censored but that's what you singed up for. Ah, but what I posted did not go against what I signed up for. No, it was merely a matter of opinion on the mod's part, it would seem. In fact, I have people who read it that agree with me that the post shouldn't have been edited at all (while there are those who say it should've been). And you may not have a choice of where you were born, but you certainly, now, have a choice of where you live. After all, people don't technically own themselves until they're 18 anyway and all these restrictions are put on them then. At 18, if you don't like the laws of the land, you find another place to live or try to change it. You kind of let yourself fall into that one, there. |
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Post by Jessica Coconut on Sept 9, 2004 20:52:31 GMT -5
NO WAY. Bridge to Terebithia was banned once?? I read it in Grade 5! I didn't see anything to bad about it. But maybe I was too young to notice.
Anyway, I have a few points to make.
Firstly, anyone read Kit's Law, by Donna Morrissey? Bestseller. Graphic sex. (not actually drawn, but deeply described) Violence. Swearing, right up to the big F. But, it's all used in context (swears as well, except for a few, used in similar context as they would be used 50 years ago) and is absolutely necessary for the story to work.
I read it. Awesome book. But not for kiddies by any means. I wouldn't recommend you read it unless you're in grade 9. And even then, you should be a rather mature reader, because like I said, not for kiddies. I only got the chance to read it because of this award given to students keen on english, only about 30 students get it per school.
It's a great experiance, and I'd be very sad if they banned it. I just read it last summer, just before I turned 15.
So, if only for artistic license, censorship shouldn't exist, except to protect young eyes.
Who should be in charge of setting standards? A panel of people, of all different nationalities, though all speak the same language. A panel that makes a point to read all books, and hopefully carefully chosen so as to have people of different tolerance levels, but know how to be fair and unbiased. Different tolerance levels so as to get an idea of what might be or not be appropiate for certain age groups.
Public libraries are allowed to carry whatever books they choose, but must place them appropriately in certain levels of restriction.
School libraries may carry the books, but must restrict books of natures that might not be suitable for certain students. Students must be accompanied by the librarian to the restricted sections.
Inappropriate things in movies, videogames, and comics must be properly restricted, and while anything under R-ratings may be shelved out in the open, they must have a clear sticky as to what rating they recieved, and on the back, must clearly state any concerns.
Course, these are my opinions.
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Post by TheEaterofWorlds on Sept 9, 2004 20:53:57 GMT -5
I fell into nothing. As it is I cannot just leave, because I can't afford the means of tranportation needed to get out of the country, and I lack the materials to build a raft and sail away. So I am trying to change what I can't except. Part of it will be when I vote in this election.
Even if it is not specifically mentioned in the rules, living with the mod's decision is part of what you get at a forum. Fall into it. These baited questions are driving me mad. Like in the evolution thread "This isn't a trap, just a question...." Bull. It's so not a trap that even though they 'didn't know how the age was figured out' they had arguements against carbon dating ready and waiting. I'd like to know if you people are asking a question to see what I think or if you're asking a question to look for a particular responce and then penalize me for it.
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Post by Stal on Sept 9, 2004 20:57:08 GMT -5
I fell into nothing. As it is I cannot just leave, because I can't afford the means of tranportation needed to get out of the country, and I lack the materials to build a raft and sail away. So I am trying to change what I can't except. Part of it will be when I vote in this election. Even if it is not specifically mentioned in the rules, living with the mod's decision is part of what you get at a forum. Fall into it. These baited questions are driving me mad. Like in the evolution thread "This isn't a trap, just a question...." Bull. It's so not a trap that even though they 'didn't know how the age was figured out' they had arguements against carbon dating ready and waiting. I'd like to know if you people are asking a question to see what I think or if you're asking a question to look for a particular responce and then penalize me for it. Notice I never baited you with a "this is not a trap..." type thing. Any question I ask will either be for sheer curiosty (in which case I may try to further figure out things based on the answer and ask more questions or try to make more points), or I ask a question and indeed use it as bait. To see how one will respond, as most of the time (not all) they will usually be inconsistent with weak "Well...that's different" arguments. EDIT -- As I see my rough wording will only confuse, what I mean is, I'm not two-faced when I ask questions. If I ask a question and say for curiosity, I'll say for curiosity. But as you know, curiosness leads to more questions. If I ask a question otherwise, it's to make one think and see what sort of response is given, and then take care of the inconsistencies. |
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Post by irishdragonlord on Sept 11, 2004 16:04:34 GMT -5
How exactly is it harmful to explore one's sexuality? Despite common belief, it won't fall off if you touch it, you know. And, since you pointed out that beliefs can be harmful, perhaps yours can be as well. You're right. 100 per-cent right. Now, what is wrong with them? I don't say beliefs are wrong unless there is something about them that is in fact wrong. I either don't know or I find out. So far, my beliefs - not every Christian, mine - I cannot find anything harmful besides ticking people off with them. Unintentionally. ^-^ |
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Post by Lilly ~ Queen of the Grarrls on Sept 17, 2004 19:54:48 GMT -5
The other day, I went into Barnes and Nobles to look around. I came across a display table with the sign that said censored books. I know that many books have been blacklisted all over the country, but it surprised me to see what some of the books were. I had read or been forced to read most of those books in school.
As for censorship, I believe people should read what they want to read, whether I like the subject matter or not.
However, in the case of kids, I think disgression should be used in what they are allowed to read, watch and see.
I know alot of this stuff is out there and kids will see some of it. But we don't have to hand it to them either.
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