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Post by althechia on Sept 1, 2004 22:35:28 GMT -5
I actually did a project on Lab Mice and Rats. A lot of the genetic research done with them has been incredibly beneficial to mental health studies, heart disease, and a really, really long list of other problems. I see no problems with this research if it helps people.
Rats and mice, at least, are given great care, and scientists take care to make them suffer as little as possible, but one of the main problems that Animal Rights Activists have is the way some of these animals are treated. It's rare, but some scientists don't take very good care of the animals that they test on. This is not only bad for the well being of the animal, but can affect the testing as well.
One of the things I'm broken on are behavioral studies. The animals are mentally tortured or specially bred to be born mentally tortured in order that mentally tortured people can be helped. My sister has a very rare mental illness, and I hope that these kind of testing can give her a more effective drug or such to help her live with it, but then I see these mice being driven insane in these barren environments, like prisoners, is sort of disturbing to me as well.
Something about it is wrong and something about it is right, but at least we aren't doing dangerous testing on humans.
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Post by Minu on Sept 11, 2004 11:06:49 GMT -5
I did a whole project on animal rights, and focused mainly on Animal Testing. I think that its a stupid thing to do.
Although there are some labs that do treat animals well, too many don't. Too many rats get crammed in cages most likely not even suited for one, and the things they do to all the animals... Its sickening.
I, personally, think that the world would be better off if there were no humans. At least, the stupid humans.
Just think how the animals feel. Think about how they feel getting tested on, and in many situations killed merely because we want some make up, or something like that that no human needs.
It's animal cruelty cleverly disguised.
In Europe, Animal Testing isn't done, or anything that is cruel to animals, I believe. Not the case in the US.
Yes, there is medicine that people need, but as said before, why not take prisoners that are to be killed anyways?
Animals deserve their rights.
I remember reading in a book on Animal Cruelty that this scientist had to break the necks of 20 rats with a PEN because someone said that the Euthanizer(Stupeed spelling) was broken. Turns out it wasn't. If that isn't Animal Cruelty, I don't know what is.
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Post by william on Sept 11, 2004 11:08:51 GMT -5
No, it's legal over here.
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Post by Oily on Sept 11, 2004 13:39:01 GMT -5
I did a whole project on animal rights, and focused mainly on Animal Testing. I think that its a stupid thing to do. Although there are some labs that do treat animals well, too many don't. Too many rats get crammed in cages most likely not even suited for one, and the things they do to all the animals... Its sickening. I, personally, think that the world would be better off if there were no humans. At least, the stupid humans. Just think how the animals feel. Think about how they feel getting tested on, and in many situations killed merely because we want some make up, or something like that that no human needs. It's animal cruelty cleverly disguised. In Europe, Animal Testing isn't done, or anything that is cruel to animals, I believe. Not the case in the US. Yes, there is medicine that people need, but as said before, why not take prisoners that are to be killed anyways? Animals deserve their rights. I remember reading in a book on Animal Cruelty that this scientist had to break the necks of 20 rats with a PEN because someone said that the Euthanizer(Stupeed spelling) was broken. Turns out it wasn't. If that isn't Animal Cruelty, I don't know what is. Well, firstly, most labs treat their animals well, because it might screw up experiments if they didn't. And most scientists are animal lovers too. Animal testing isn't animal cruelty in disguise. It's many dedicated scientists working out how to cure both humans and animals of horrible diseases, despite the threats they may suffer from extremists. I don't think the world would be better off without humans. For example, if deer become overpopulated, they can strip a land of almost all its grass and leaves etc. Sure, cycle of life, deer will die out again etc, but I don't think this world would be "better" without humans. And animals don't feel about getting tested on. They don't really know it's happening. And rarely are they killed, I believe. A lot of animal experiments are for vital medicines – if you've ever taken any medicine in your life, the chances are that it was tested on animals at some point. In Europe, animal testing is done. I believe it's well controlled though (I think England was banning/considering a ban on cosmetic testing) but I'm not sure. But, in Europe, we don't kill prisoners And, frankly, what makes it right to test on humans but not to test on animals? Someone at school suggested using volunteers but a) there would never be enough and b) it would exploit people desperate for money. And the facts in the book were probably exaggerated. Animal rights extremists tend to make things sound worse than they are.
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