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Post by thegreenmooseofdoom on Jul 19, 2004 18:47:20 GMT -5
What seriously creeps me out is the fact that the universe is never ending.... But.. everything that has a begining has an end (heh, Matrix)... but than.... what's at the end of the universe?... Bah *has a headache* Aaaaaaactually... scientists have found what they believe to be the edges of the universe. It seems to be continually expanding. There's a theory that it will eventually stretch to it's limits, then come back in and implode, creating another big bang. They postulate that this is a never-ending cycle, and is how we got here.
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Post by The Wanderer on Jul 19, 2004 18:55:17 GMT -5
Aaaaaaactually... scientists have found what they believe to be the edges of the universe. It seems to be continually expanding. There's a theory that it will eventually stretch to it's limits, then come back in and implode, creating another big bang. They postulate that this is a never-ending cycle, and is how we got here. Well here is some food for thought, (coming from Mr. Religious...) Galaxies are currently moving about the universe as it expands outward, right? Scientists theorize that is also possible for two galaxies to collide with each other, creating a catyclismal implosion on both galaxies. In other words, at any given split second, without realizing it, everything we know will end, faster than you can snap those fingers. Pretty intense, isn't it?
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Post by Princess Ember Mononoke on Jul 19, 2004 19:06:21 GMT -5
Well here is some food for thought, (coming from Mr. Religious...) Galaxies are currently moving about the universe as it expands outward, right? Scientists theorize that is also possible for two galaxies to collide with each other, creating a catyclismal implosion on both galaxies. In other words, at any given split second, without realizing it, everything we know will end, faster than you can snap those fingers. Pretty intense, isn't it? That's more information that I ever needed to know.
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Post by Smiley on Jul 19, 2004 19:11:06 GMT -5
Well here is some food for thought, (coming from Mr. Religious...) Galaxies are currently moving about the universe as it expands outward, right? Scientists theorize that is also possible for two galaxies to collide with each other, creating a catyclismal implosion on both galaxies. In other words, at any given split second, without realizing it, everything we know will end, faster than you can snap those fingers. Pretty intense, isn't it? Well, we'd be dead before we could realize the full horror of it, so I can live with that on my mind. If my world is going to end, I wouldn't want to know ahead of time. So, I guess it's good that it would all happen in a split second ^_^. No drawn-out deaths.
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Post by thegreenmooseofdoom on Jul 19, 2004 19:12:47 GMT -5
Well here is some food for thought, (coming from Mr. Religious...) Galaxies are currently moving about the universe as it expands outward, right? Scientists theorize that is also possible for two galaxies to collide with each other, creating a catyclismal implosion on both galaxies. In other words, at any given split second, without realizing it, everything we know will end, faster than you can snap those fingers. Pretty intense, isn't it? Yep, but there's nothing we can do about it if it does happen, and it hasn't happened in at least a few million years... so it's really not worth worrying about.
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Post by The Wanderer on Jul 19, 2004 21:39:58 GMT -5
Yep, but there's nothing we can do about it if it does happen, and it hasn't happened in at least a few million years... so it's really not worth worrying about. Agreed. You cant really control what goes on in your life, let alone the universe.However, I have already posted what my belief is on life and the universe, so I guess there's no reason to restate it.
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Post by Retired Blub on Jul 19, 2004 23:02:11 GMT -5
Oh--this subject has ALWAYS got my thinking.
I've always wondered - What was there when there was no universe?
Was there darkness, and God was there, simply doing nothing? What happened before the universe was created? No one knows and i've always truly wanted to find an answer for this.
Now for life, I believe that the bones, muscles, skin that encloses us, is simply a costume for the real you. The real you is your soul, and it is what makes you who you are. I belive that when we die, your soul is still kept alive. Your body is the only one that has shut down. You soul goes off to another body, and you don't even remember your previous life. I've always wondered, "Was I a famous person in my previous life?" "Was I poor, and starving?" "Did I have cancer and die?"
I also think that when you die, you die. There is no heaven, in my opinion, because it would technically be impossible. Sometimes, you can't always look on religion's side and look more on the technical side. I think that when you die, it is merely a long sleep. You are resting from your life and are preparing for your next one. When God decides that it is time, your soul re-awakens and goes off to another body.
My Philosophy of Life and the Universe is a grand thought that is simply to grand to explain. I have thousands of ideas drifting in my mind but these are the ones that I have always questioned during my lifetime.
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Post by ncwidt5895 on Jul 19, 2004 23:27:47 GMT -5
I've always had strange theories of life - what happens after you die especially. I don't believe in heaven, nor do I believe in hell. Yet, I also don't believe it's an eternal sleep. I have a theory of you are what you were after you die, but it'd take ages to explain. And I don't have ages to explain it...
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Post by Retired Blub on Jul 19, 2004 23:37:16 GMT -5
I've always had strange theories of life - what happens after you die especially. I don't believe in heaven, nor do I believe in hell. Yet, I also don't believe it's an eternal sleep. I have a theory of you are what you were after you die, but it'd take ages to explain. And I don't have ages to explain it... It seems you have quite a few of the same principles that I have.
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Post by ncwidt5895 on Jul 20, 2004 12:36:19 GMT -5
It seems you have quite a few of the same principles that I have. Mostly, yes. Except for the fact I don't believe in God at all.
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Post by Retired Blub on Jul 20, 2004 12:50:59 GMT -5
Mostly, yes. Except for the fact I don't believe in God at all. Sometimes, I don't know what to believe. Sometimes, I feel like someone just made up God to just make people feel better. At times, though, I do feel like he's there...
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Post by kuwoobie on Jul 20, 2004 15:18:36 GMT -5
I believe that what we know as the universe is only a small part of something much bigger. The way an atom is just a piece of a molecule. For all we know there are kajillions of little universes inside of every atom and it goes on up forever from there. It's hard to explain...I hope some of you got the idea. Anyway, I believe in the big bang theory, but not so much as it being an explaination of the beginning of the universe. I believe our individual universe along with all the others don't really have a true beginning or end. The tiny ball that explodes (being the big bang) and keeps expanding eventually stops expanding and beings to retract, as explained once on Invader Zim, hehe. Eventually the universe will implode and all matter that we know of will be condensed back into a tiny grapefruit sized ball. After that, it explodes again, starting the cycle all over again.
Some people believe that everything that has happened as we know it will happen all over again exactly the way it has before. Every chain of event will happen exactly as it happened before. So even after we die and are long forgotton we will eventually all be born again and live our lives all over again exactly as it had before. From the big bang all over again.
I believe that with every big bang things happen slightly different. Who knows, next time our earth might be populated with super intelligent crab people who ride chocobos to work each day... It's as if the earth itself has an infinate number of past lives so to speak...
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Post by althechia on Jul 26, 2004 2:17:14 GMT -5
It's not important where we came from, what's important is knowing where we're going. ;D
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Post by sollunaestrella on Jul 26, 2004 18:00:55 GMT -5
Aaaaaaactually... scientists have found what they believe to be the edges of the universe. It seems to be continually expanding. There's a theory that it will eventually stretch to it's limits, then come back in and implode, creating another big bang. They postulate that this is a never-ending cycle, and is how we got here. What I learned in my Physics class this past school year was that for a long time the universe seemed to be expanding and slowing down - and that it would come back together and implode. But I also learned that new research shows that the edges of the universe seem to be speeding up as they expand, and nobody can really explain why. (I'm not sure, but I think I heard that it might appear that it could be speeding up and then slowing down in cycles as it expands, but I don't remember.) As far as we know, everything beyond the universe is empty space. But there could be something out there affecting our universe - like a parallel universe. (But thinking about that always gets me confused, seeing as a parallel universe, by the definition of universe - "all matter and energy" - should be part of our own as well, that everything is interconnected not only by the laws of physics but also by the law of our language.) Anyway... yeah. That was just a short little ramble.... It's not important where we came from, what's important is knowing where we're going. ;D I whole-heartedly agree. ^_^
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Post by irishdragonlord on Aug 2, 2004 12:57:20 GMT -5
I believe the whole Creation week theory - just not the completely orthodox way. And I believe God was always there. Maybe hard to fathom, but, most things that don't follow the rules of mathematics are. Like some believe, I say God made the earth in 6 days - just not in a row. God could've made it instantaneously, but I believe first He made the universe, then, took the planets and molded them to His liking. Then the land and sea and animals and us and stopped creating on the seventh day. Now, I "do" believe in evolution. I believe in survival of the fittest and micro evolution, like a ferret becoming an otter. Macro, like bacteria to plant to animal, I do not believe. This is why I say there was a lapse in the days - first God put the creatures in the water, let them get themselves settled, the went to land, air, and so forth. I then believe bacterias, viruses, and those things came after Satan - hence the reason we're in such a mess. Satan makes Eve screw up, Adam screws up, they get punished, and they get thrown out of the Garden of Eden, then we have to make do with the world Satan warped. And we're making a mess. Time is neither an illusion nor real. Time is simply the movement of planets around an area, and the counting of the times the sun moves across the sky. Counting the amount of times it moves and such is "time". I believe that God also made us in His image, as he says - we are separate entities, conscious, and he blessed us with the greatest show of His love - free will. Now, I read just the first page so my mind would stay intact. I'll keep reading after this post. Anyway, unlike Ember, I "know" (or as much as a human can know) God gave us free will, we are separate beings. This is why the Holy Spirit lives in us and gives us the knowledge of God's will. He took us from dust, transformed us, and gave us life, and in His knowledge made us separate and yet able to be as close as possible to Him, by our own choice. If we were all controlled by God, there would be no evil, for God cannot be, nor can he cause, evil. And lastly, for the afterlife and souls - I believe it wholeheartedly. Jesus died on the cross for us - "we are dead to sin but alive through Christ Jesus" (Romans sumthin'). Our sinful bodies die, and the Real us, the us that is obedient to the Holy Spirit, our mind, our conscience, goes to God, because it's not physical. Oh, one more thing - angels and demons. One and the same to me. Satan was the angel Lucifer - now he's Father of Lies. Angels that followed Satan are demons, in effect. And angels are NOT people, nor animals, any more than God is. There are 4 categories: people, angels, God, then the animal/plant/bacteria kingdoms. That's my large view. ;D EDIT: Forgot to say why I believe God's there I say God's there because He has done too much for me for me to not believe. Not just the standard stuff - Jesus wasn't kidding when he said "Ask and it will be given to you, seek and you shall find, knock and I will answer." He has pulled me out of so many holes I could NEVER have gotten out of if I hadn't had someone there with me for every instant of life, he has blessed me so much, I could never believe he's not there. I've experienced a personal miracle - miracle is not too strong a word - and I swear there is no way He could not exist after what he's gotten me through. And I know this wasn't my thinking - I've heard stuff in my head I never could have fathomed nor thought possible or even been aware of that could happen in my life and had some elightening moments when I was lost in a question in the Bible.
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