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Post by Sunny the Ixiholic on Oct 21, 2018 17:09:51 GMT -5
Okay, so I just want to ask if anyone else has tried/experienced this since this is something I have experienced for myself. But...have any of you realized that sometimes it is actually HARDER to draw the environments your characters reside in versus the characters themselves? It takes me like, very little effort to do a quick sketch of Character. But his hat shop? I still haven't gotten this silly thing done. Now, to be fair, I really like giving myself the challenge of drawing where my characters live/work because it gives me little insights and details that make them more real, but guys...the work involved.... Here's my initial design sketch. And here's the actual work, which is still in progress....
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Post by Zoey on Oct 21, 2018 20:09:45 GMT -5
Sunny the Ixiholic, I feel you. xD I think it's a product of our childhood--most of us were more interested in drawing characters rather than environments (and if you find that rare young artist who likes it the other way around--TELL THAT KID TO KEEP GOING), so we grow up practicing the former like ten times more than the latter. Or a hundred times more, in my case LOL! I don't recall ever doing environments that much when I was younger... everyone would be floating in a completely blank white space. Also, to be frank, learning to draw things correctly in perspective is really hard and often boring because it's basically geometry, and drawing an entire village or city or interior is just daunting. x.X Like, the character alone is one "object" in the setting--and now there's a bajillion other objects to account for, glhf! And I think another thing about environments is that, unlike character design, anything slightly off about perspective, light/shadow, form, etc. kinda looks really obvious and makes me feel like I've completely failed LOL! I love your hat store interior, though! The color scheme is fantastic, and it definitely has a regal yet whimsical character; it'll give so much more context and life to your characters, whenever you do put them in! All that hard work is totally going to pay off.
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Post by Killix on Oct 24, 2018 0:29:02 GMT -5
Yep, drawing environments for my characters to reside in is one of my weakest points. Perspective really trips me up.
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Post by Sunny the Ixiholic on Oct 24, 2018 10:42:57 GMT -5
I'm really lucky in that Procreate for Ipad has perspective grids that help snap lines to them. If it didn't I would be in deeeeep doo doo.
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Post by Shinko on Oct 25, 2018 9:59:43 GMT -5
I've always sorta wondered if it's weird that I can't draw unless something else is going on in the background- I always have to be playing music, or listening to a podcast or a movie, or (when I was in college) a lecture while I draw. I tend to get bored and have a hard time focusing for extended periods of time if I'm just drawing into the silent void.
Anybody else? Just me?
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Post by Rabbit ♠ on Oct 25, 2018 11:12:35 GMT -5
I've always sorta wondered if it's weird that I can't draw unless something else is going on in the background- I always have to be playing music, or listening to a podcast or a movie, or (when I was in college) a lecture while I draw. I tend to get bored and have a hard time focusing for extended periods of time if I'm just drawing into the silent void. Anybody else? Just me? I do that, too. I need to have something in the background while I'm drawing. Usually, I listen to music, but I occasionally have some news / podcasts playing.
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Post by Twillie on Oct 25, 2018 12:14:32 GMT -5
I tend to do similar, but it's not unique to drawing for me. I think I spend at least 75% of my day with headphones on listening to music or Youtube while doing other work, and that number isn't higher only because I can't listen while in class xD It can help with focus indeed, as it gives my brain a little something more to grasp rather than pinpointing on one single task. Doing that after a while just gets tedious and tiring for the mind, and especially for me since I can struggle with long-term focus.
However, I don't always have the option of listening while drawing. In my current figure drawing class, as we're working on exercises, the professor often walks around and gives pointers and feedback individually, and my huge, clunky headphones would just get in the way of that alas. At least our longest drawing sessions right now have been 20 minutes since we're working with live models, and the past few classes have been short gesture exercises at five minutes max per drawing. There's breaks in between them then, but yeah not a lot of opportunity for background listening in all that activity.
I've found I'm able to hold up alright during those times though, and even before we had live models and all three hours of class was dedicated to one drawing (didn't use headphones then either). It does wear on you after a bit for sure, though x3 Sometimes after those classes I am just ready for a nap.
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Post by Zoey on Oct 26, 2018 22:30:59 GMT -5
I found that -generally- I am much more productive at basically -anything- without music... but who can stand that for too long. XD
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Post by Ginz ❤ on Nov 10, 2018 13:56:14 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, guys! Today I made a great DISCOVERY, which maybe should have been obvious, but... I can use my tablet as a tablet even if I don't turn on the screen! As long as it's plugged in, it works just like my old tablet! This is definitely a big plus for me, because sometimes I like to use my tablet as a mouse just for more comfort and accuracy, but I don't NEED the display screen? It helps a lot for drawing, but for other things, I'd rather just look at my actual monitor.
I found out today because my mouse ran out of battery, and I had to plug it in to charge. I can't use it while it's charging, so I figured I'd use my tablet in the meantime. I was about to prop it up on its stand and turn it on, but I had the pen in my hand and got it close to the tablet and noticed my cursor MOVED. I feel a little silly not realizing before, especially since that's exactly how my old tablet worked, just plug it in and it's good to go. Why did I think having a screen changed that? But hey, at least I figured out now! XD;
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Post by charming thievery on Dec 17, 2018 23:30:04 GMT -5
It's a shame I only just discovered the merits of posting fanart on tumblr when it's now going down, lol. I'm getting way more hits for my Vanellope drawing there in less than a day than I got on IG in ~3 weeks. 😭
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Post by Ginz ❤ on Dec 17, 2018 23:41:46 GMT -5
It's a shame I only just discovered the merits of posting fanart on tumblr when it's now going down, lol. I'm getting way more hits for my Vanellope drawing there in less than a day than I got on IG in ~3 weeks. 😭 I think it's too soon to say what's really gonna happen to tumblr. I don't think it's really going down, but who knows. I'd say the fact that you're getting more attention on your art there is an indication that it's still alive and kicking! If you don't mind me asking, what's your tumblr username? I'd love to follow you there!
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Post by charming thievery on Dec 18, 2018 0:59:45 GMT -5
It's a shame I only just discovered the merits of posting fanart on tumblr when it's now going down, lol. I'm getting way more hits for my Vanellope drawing there in less than a day than I got on IG in ~3 weeks. 😭 I think it's too soon to say what's really gonna happen to tumblr. I don't think it's really going down, but who knows. I'd say the fact that you're getting more attention on your art there is an indication that it's still alive and kicking! If you don't mind me asking, what's your tumblr username? I'd love to follow you there! I certainly hope tumblr manages to rectify the situation since it'd be very sad to lose such a popular social media platform that's been really beneficial for many artists and writers (and others). I don't really use it much or keep up with it, but I keep seeing people talking about how everyone's leaving and stuff. ^^; But yes, it still seems to be very active! (Though I was like, oops! because the first thing I see on my feed after uploading my drawing was a post about staying off tumblr today to protest, lol. Kinda bad timing (totally didn't know about it, ahh), but clearly I was not the only one not staying off it, haha.) I can PM you. I haven't got much on it (especially after I moved my art stuff to a side blog so my meh art wouldn't be what everyone sees whenever I like/reblog something), so it currently just has this year's Inktober stuff and Vanellope, haha. My IG and my art thread here have more stuff, haha. But considering my BH6 drawing and Vanellope have the most notes, I've decided to at least make sure I post my fanart on tumblr since that's where all the fandoms live apparently.
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Post by Celestial on Jan 5, 2019 17:04:56 GMT -5
I was trying to edit a bit of traditional art digitally to make it the best it can be. As I was doing so, I was noticing all these little imperfections that I never saw in the paper version. I still have trouble spotting them, but on screen they show up clear as day until I edit them away. Sometimes I cannot and it looks really unpolished.
So now I have a theory that traditional art carries with it an inherent imperfection. It might not look as polished as digital art does, and I really wish I could make it be that polished, but the imperfection is a part of it and does make a little bit more special. It shows the effort put into it, allows you to study how a piece was made. And I think that's nice. It's probably not a popular opinion though. People seem to like the perfection of digital art. But at least traditional art lets me hide the flaws of my own technique and hands and brain better.
Not saying one art form is better or superior. Both are great. But I had a moment of musing I wanted to share.
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Post by Moni on Jan 5, 2019 19:12:52 GMT -5
this is so beyond frustrating
every single drawing i do is just... garbage and i have no idea what to do about it. I've even tried like, studies... nada. not back to the drawing board, I guess.
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Post by Zoey on Jan 6, 2019 13:25:44 GMT -5
I was trying to edit a bit of traditional art digitally to make it the best it can be. As I was doing so, I was noticing all these little imperfections that I never saw in the paper version. I still have trouble spotting them, but on screen they show up clear as day until I edit them away. Sometimes I cannot and it looks really unpolished. So now I have a theory that traditional art carries with it an inherent imperfection. It might not look as polished as digital art does, and I really wish I could make it be that polished, but the imperfection is a part of it and does make a little bit more special. It shows the effort put into it, allows you to study how a piece was made. And I think that's nice. It's probably not a popular opinion though. People seem to like the perfection of digital art. But at least traditional art lets me hide the flaws of my own technique and hands and brain better. Not saying one art form is better or superior. Both are great. But I had a moment of musing I wanted to share. Nah, man, I'm totally with you there! Plus I like the tactile feel of traditional art. Digital art was born with the purpose of being fast while keeping the same high quality, seamless perfection. All gradients and lineart are smooth. Exactly what the animation/comic book industry wants. Traditional art, on the other hand, is pretty much prized for being able to see every stroke and imperfection while at the same time looking like a cohesive picture. I think it's wonderful that traditional art can look unpolished and perfect at the same time. Sometimes I feel like a lot of digital art I see on art sites start looking very cookie cutter, although there are still tons of artists out there that have amazingly unique digital art styles that I'll never be able to achieve. XD this is so beyond frustrating every single drawing i do is just... garbage and i have no idea what to do about it. I've even tried like, studies... nada. not back to the drawing board, I guess. I've been feeling similar recently. I feel like I was much more imaginative and creative in my youth, whereas nowadays the only pieces I'm happy with are my studies. Thrown out so many free-handed illustrative doodles because they just look like crap in comparison. XD Just keep drawing, Moni! Even if you only come out with one good drawing every few/several months, I think it's still a pretty good rate! I've resigned myself to just enjoy the process and being able to try out new mediums/methods rather than getting hung up over how good the art is.
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