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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 5, 2015 22:06:58 GMT -5
Ira: Living hosts are preferable. Able ones. Healthy ones. Is that not preferable for any creature? A working body. --- Ampich-Anne: Incorrect. I simply misspoke. But to be fair, they change their name constantly. Glyph: That is, but what about the host creature? Being taken over is surely worse then taking over a dead body. ---- Fish: Oh. How does a Glyphos A infect a body? Ira: It does not matter. Host creatures do not feel it, and are improved upon in the process. I am not a host creature. I am a parasite. I require hosts the same way other species require food or water, or use plants for materials, or domesticate other species for personal use. It is how things work. Her tone is matter-of-fact.---Ampich-Anne pulls up a diagramAmpich-Anne: It enters the host body through the back of the head, neck, or torso. In it's wild state, It enters the host creature when it drinks water from the spring the Glyphos A lives in, since the nymph state cannot leave the water for extended amounts of time. It is hypothesized the Glyphos A evolved into a parasite is to protect against it's natural predators, protecting itself in a larger body.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 5, 2015 22:35:07 GMT -5
Glyph: That is, but what about the host creature? Being taken over is surely worse then taking over a dead body. ---- Fish: Oh. How does a Glyphos A infect a body? Ira: It does not matter. Host creatures do not feel it, and are improved upon in the process. I am not a host creature. I am a parasite. I require hosts the same way other species require food or water, or use plants for materials, or domesticate other species for personal use. It is how things work. Her tone is matter-of-fact.---Ampich-Anne pulls up a diagramAmpich-Anne: It enters the host body through the back of the head, neck, or torso. In it's wild state, It enters the host creature when it drinks water from the spring the Glyphos A lives in, since the nymph state cannot leave the water for extended amounts of time. It is hypothesized the Glyphos A evolved into a parasite is to protect against it's natural predators, protecting itself in a larger body. Glyph: But you are a sentient parasite. The rules change at this level. No sentient race ever got far without cooperation. ----- Fish: How are eggs lain in the stream, if they do lay eggs? What are their natural predators? How long does it take a host to show signs of the parasite?
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 5, 2015 22:46:42 GMT -5
Ira: It does not matter. Host creatures do not feel it, and are improved upon in the process. I am not a host creature. I am a parasite. I require hosts the same way other species require food or water, or use plants for materials, or domesticate other species for personal use. It is how things work. Her tone is matter-of-fact.---Ampich-Anne pulls up a diagramAmpich-Anne: It enters the host body through the back of the head, neck, or torso. In it's wild state, It enters the host creature when it drinks water from the spring the Glyphos A lives in, since the nymph state cannot leave the water for extended amounts of time. It is hypothesized the Glyphos A evolved into a parasite is to protect against it's natural predators, protecting itself in a larger body. Glyph: But you are a sentient parasite. The rules change at this level. No sentient race ever got far without cooperation. ----- Fish: How are eggs lain in the stream, if they do lay eggs? What are their natural predators? How long does it take a host to show signs of the parasite? Ira: The rules do not change. Did a predator stop killing prey when it became sentient? No, it found more efficient ways to do so. Why should I change my life cycle to make other creatures feel more comfortable. ---- Ampich-Anne: Data on these topics is incomplete, and most taken form the human research lab, and therefore may be faulty. *a pause* She pulls up a long document in English, handwritten, and reads excerpts from it.Ampich-Anne: There are no apparent signs of eggs in the colonized water sources, but rather they seem to fall from tall overhangs or foliage, like a tree or cliff edge. The base of these "drop-lings" acts and appears as a fungus, glowing with a strange bio luminescence. It is being looked into whether or not these parasites are a complex method of spore scattering, or something entirely foreign. *pause* While not a low-level life form, it is predated on by only a few genus of animal, all also parasites. (See Glyphos Type B, C, and C-2) *pause as she scans the document* The host is lost upon consumption by the parasite, host cells being integrated into the cellular fluid of the Glyphos A.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 5, 2015 23:12:21 GMT -5
Glyph: But you are a sentient parasite. The rules change at this level. No sentient race ever got far without cooperation. ----- Fish: How are eggs lain in the stream, if they do lay eggs? What are their natural predators? How long does it take a host to show signs of the parasite? Ira: The rules do not change. Did a predator stop killing prey when it became sentient? No, it found more efficient ways to do so. Why should I change my life cycle to make other creatures feel more comfortable. ---- Ampich-Anne: Data on these topics is incomplete, and most taken form the human research lab, and therefore may be faulty. *a pause* She pulls up a long document in English, handwritten, and reads excerpts from it.Ampich-Anne: There are no apparent signs of eggs in the colonized water sources, but rather they seem to fall from tall overhangs or foliage, like a tree or cliff edge. The base of these "drop-lings" acts and appears as a fungus, glowing with a strange bio luminescence. It is being looked into whether or not these parasites are a complex method of spore scattering, or something entirely foreign. *pause* While not a low-level life form, it is predated on by only a few genus of animal, all also parasites. (See Glyphos Type B, C, and C-2) *pause as she scans the document* The host is lost upon consumption by the parasite, host cells being integrated into the cellular fluid of the Glyphos A. Glyph: Compassion, Ira. Pity, and the very things a sentient creature feels. Where I am from, the predators used their intelligence to create what they needed without the need for killing. Eventually. If you could do that, would you? They came to a fork in the mine. Glyph stopped and looked at Ira.---- Fish: And the host body becomes a dead body?
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 5, 2015 23:19:53 GMT -5
Ira: The rules do not change. Did a predator stop killing prey when it became sentient? No, it found more efficient ways to do so. Why should I change my life cycle to make other creatures feel more comfortable. ---- Ampich-Anne: Data on these topics is incomplete, and most taken form the human research lab, and therefore may be faulty. *a pause* She pulls up a long document in English, handwritten, and reads excerpts from it.Ampich-Anne: There are no apparent signs of eggs in the colonized water sources, but rather they seem to fall from tall overhangs or foliage, like a tree or cliff edge. The base of these "drop-lings" acts and appears as a fungus, glowing with a strange bio luminescence. It is being looked into whether or not these parasites are a complex method of spore scattering, or something entirely foreign. *pause* While not a low-level life form, it is predated on by only a few genus of animal, all also parasites. (See Glyphos Type B, C, and C-2) *pause as she scans the document* The host is lost upon consumption by the parasite, host cells being integrated into the cellular fluid of the Glyphos A. Glyph: Compassion, Ira. Pity, and the very things a sentient creature feels. Where I am from, the predators used their intelligence to create what they needed without the need for killing. Eventually. If you could do that, would you? They came to a fork in the mine. Glyph stopped and looked at Ira.---- Fish: And the host body becomes a dead body? Ira: I do not feel these things, nor have they been down to me. I see no need to go out of my way when the most efficient method of survival is clear to me. Ira is frowning, small, green tendrils poke out from underneath her eyes.Ira: If you only seek to provoke and annoy me, you do not have to accompany me further. --- Ampich-Anne: By some definitions, yes. The creature dies and the parasite is the only remaining, thinking life form.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 5, 2015 23:45:05 GMT -5
Glyph: Compassion, Ira. Pity, and the very things a sentient creature feels. Where I am from, the predators used their intelligence to create what they needed without the need for killing. Eventually. If you could do that, would you? They came to a fork in the mine. Glyph stopped and looked at Ira.---- Fish: And the host body becomes a dead body? Ira: I do not feel these things, nor have they been down to me. I see no need to go out of my way when the most efficient method of survival is clear to me. Ira is frowning, small, green tendrils poke out from underneath her eyes.Ira: If you only seek to provoke and annoy me, you do not have to accompany me further. --- Ampich-Anne: By some definitions, yes. The creature dies and the parasite is the only remaining, thinking life form. She turned fully to face Ira.Glyph: I do not seek to provoke or annoy you. I seek to make you think. You method may be efficient, Ira, but it is unsuccessful. Your colonies die because when you prey upon intelligent creatures in cruel ways you make predators of them. Compassion, pity, love- these are all evolutionary paths to the most efficient method of survival. The path to balance, harmony, cooperation. The path to peace. But you say you do not feel these things. I can help with that. Let me help you, Ira. Let me help your kind not just survive, but thrive. She slowly held out her hand, in much the same way she had when they shook hands.----- Fish: Does the queen have special control over other members of the species? What makes the leader the leader?
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 6, 2015 15:28:03 GMT -5
Ira: I do not feel these things, nor have they been down to me. I see no need to go out of my way when the most efficient method of survival is clear to me. Ira is frowning, small, green tendrils poke out from underneath her eyes.Ira: If you only seek to provoke and annoy me, you do not have to accompany me further. --- Ampich-Anne: By some definitions, yes. The creature dies and the parasite is the only remaining, thinking life form. She turned fully to face Ira.Glyph: I do not seek to provoke or annoy you. I seek to make you think. You method may be efficient, Ira, but it is unsuccessful. Your colonies die because when you prey upon intelligent creatures in cruel ways you make predators of them. Compassion, pity, love- these are all evolutionary paths to the most efficient method of survival. The path to balance, harmony, cooperation. The path to peace. But you say you do not feel these things. I can help with that. Let me help you, Ira. Let me help your kind not just survive, but thrive. She slowly held out her hand, in much the same way she had when they shook hands.----- Fish: Does the queen have special control over other members of the species? What makes the leader the leader? Ira lets out a low growl which does not seem to come from her throat, but rather her midriff.Ira: You know.. so much... who tells you these things?! I am not in need of help! You speak in words that have no importance! Life is a large competition, I life because I am strong, My kind will life because of me, I will eliminate threats to my goal! The way she talks is difficult to decipher whether she is angry, defensive, or confused, or maybe all at once. She is loud, and tendrils begin tearing through the sleeve material.Ira: You do not seek to help, you seek to change! I do not know change! Only survival. You are machine, what do you know of the cycle I live in? Nothing! Nothing at all! --- Ampich-Anne: She does display ample control over others of her kind. We are unsure as to the parameters for this position, whether or not it is respect based, biological, or something else. Some human databases hypothesize telepathy, others hormones.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 6, 2015 15:50:16 GMT -5
She turned fully to face Ira.Glyph: I do not seek to provoke or annoy you. I seek to make you think. You method may be efficient, Ira, but it is unsuccessful. Your colonies die because when you prey upon intelligent creatures in cruel ways you make predators of them. Compassion, pity, love- these are all evolutionary paths to the most efficient method of survival. The path to balance, harmony, cooperation. The path to peace. But you say you do not feel these things. I can help with that. Let me help you, Ira. Let me help your kind not just survive, but thrive. She slowly held out her hand, in much the same way she had when they shook hands.----- Fish: Does the queen have special control over other members of the species? What makes the leader the leader? Ira lets out a low growl which does not seem to come from her throat, but rather her midriff.Ira: You know.. so much... who tells you these things?! I am not in need of help! You speak in words that have no importance! Life is a large competition, I live because I am strong, My kind will live because of me, I will eliminate threats to my goal! The way she talks is difficult to decipher whether she is angry, defensive, or confused, or maybe all at once. She is loud, and tendrils begin tearing through the sleeve material.Ira: You do not seek to help, you seek to change! I do not know change! Only survival. You are machine, what do you know of the cycle I live in? Nothing! Nothing at all! --- Ampich-Anne: She does display ample control over others of her kind. We are unsure as to the parameters for this position, whether or not it is respect based, biological, or something else. Some human databases hypothesize telepathy, others hormones. Glyph's voice remained calm, but she slowly removed her hat and coat, casting them aside. Her "children" squeaked in protest, but dropped down and skittered away.Glyph: My tracker on the Trallyr ship has ears. I hear, and I learn. Ira, life is my purpose, my love, and my passion. I have studied life my entire existence. I have only spoken the truth to you, and I can prove my words with mathematical proofs. If you please, I'd like to start with the Price equation, from which we realize the benefits of altruism. ----- Fish: Hormones? Not original to the host body, I think? Since Ira stopped growing once taken over. Would it be safe to say Glyphos A only experience rudimentary animal hormones?
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 6, 2015 16:37:08 GMT -5
Ira lets out a low growl which does not seem to come from her throat, but rather her midriff.Ira: You know.. so much... who tells you these things?! I am not in need of help! You speak in words that have no importance! Life is a large competition, I live because I am strong, My kind will live because of me, I will eliminate threats to my goal! The way she talks is difficult to decipher whether she is angry, defensive, or confused, or maybe all at once. She is loud, and tendrils begin tearing through the sleeve material.Ira: You do not seek to help, you seek to change! I do not know change! Only survival. You are machine, what do you know of the cycle I live in? Nothing! Nothing at all! --- Ampich-Anne: She does display ample control over others of her kind. We are unsure as to the parameters for this position, whether or not it is respect based, biological, or something else. Some human databases hypothesize telepathy, others hormones. Glyph's voice remained calm, but she slowly removed her hat and coat, casting them aside. Her "children" squeaked in protest, but dropped down and skittered away.Glyph: My tracker on the Trallyr ship has ears. I hear, and I learn. Ira, life is my purpose, my love, and my passion. I have studied life my entire existence. I have only spoken the truth to you, and I can prove my words with mathematical proofs. If you please, I'd like to start with the Price equation, from which we realize the benefits of altruism. ----- Fish: Hormones? Not original to the host body, I think? Since Ira stopped growing once taken over. Would it be safe to say Glyphos A only experience rudimentary animal hormones? Ira: *panicked* You are WITH THEM? You are LEADING THEM HERE, AREN'T YOU? *she flinches back* --- Ampich-Anne: Correct, the hormones in question would stem from the parasite. It is safe to assume the the parasite is not built for high cognitive function, which could explain some of their behavior patterns. Ira has clearly and often demonstrated her main emotional outputs include satisfaction, fear, anger, confidence, and pride. It could be possible that the parasite gains the cognitive functions of it's host, regardless of it's suitability.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 6, 2015 16:45:53 GMT -5
Glyph's voice remained calm, but she slowly removed her hat and coat, casting them aside. Her "children" squeaked in protest, but dropped down and skittered away.Glyph: My tracker on the Trallyr ship has ears. I hear, and I learn. Ira, life is my purpose, my love, and my passion. I have studied life my entire existence. I have only spoken the truth to you, and I can prove my words with mathematical proofs. If you please, I'd like to start with the Price equation, from which we realize the benefits of altruism. ----- Fish: Hormones? Not original to the host body, I think? Since Ira stopped growing once taken over. Would it be safe to say Glyphos A only experience rudimentary animal hormones? Ira: *panicked* You are WITH THEM? You are LEADING THEM HERE, AREN'T YOU? *she flinches back* --- Ampich-Anne: Correct, the hormones in question would stem from the parasite. It is safe to assume the the parasite is not built for high cognitive function, which could explain some of their behavior patterns. Ira has clearly and often demonstrated her main emotional outputs include satisfaction, fear, anger, confidence, and pride. It could be possible that the parasite gains the cognitive functions of it's host, regardless of it's suitability. Glyph seemed surprised, and confused, at the allegation.Glyph: Eh? No, of course not. They don't even know I'm tracking them. I told you, they have a bio-tracker, and it's locked onto you. Are we going to move further into the mine? ----- Fish: Have there been any attempts to solve that particular problem?
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 6, 2015 16:55:34 GMT -5
Ira: *panicked* You are WITH THEM? You are LEADING THEM HERE, AREN'T YOU? *she flinches back* --- Ampich-Anne: Correct, the hormones in question would stem from the parasite. It is safe to assume the the parasite is not built for high cognitive function, which could explain some of their behavior patterns. Ira has clearly and often demonstrated her main emotional outputs include satisfaction, fear, anger, confidence, and pride. It could be possible that the parasite gains the cognitive functions of it's host, regardless of it's suitability. Glyph seemed surprised, and confused, at the allegation.Glyph: Eh? No, of course not. They don't even know I'm tracking them. I told you, they have a bio-tracker, and it's locked onto you. Are we going to move further into the mine? ----- Fish: Have there been any attempts to solve that particular problem? Ira: .... *she grumbles, clearly distrusting Glyph, but wordlessly starts walking forwards again* --- Ampich-Anne: What is your definition of "solve"
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 6, 2015 17:04:04 GMT -5
Glyph seemed surprised, and confused, at the allegation.Glyph: Eh? No, of course not. They don't even know I'm tracking them. I told you, they have a bio-tracker, and it's locked onto you. Are we going to move further into the mine? ----- Fish: Have there been any attempts to solve that particular problem? Ira: .... *she grumbles, clearly distrusting Glyph, but wordlessly starts walking forwards again* --- Ampich-Anne: What is your definition of "solve" Glyph: What were the noises I heard before? She walked alongside Ira, her eyes on the other's midriff.---- Fish: Hormone supplements? Has anyone tried helping Glyphos A gain suitability for high cognitive function? And how close are we? ... Also, how does the species attract mates? Heh. ---- For no apparent reason, Glyph's eyes widened and she blushed.
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 6, 2015 17:08:39 GMT -5
Ira: .... *she grumbles, clearly distrusting Glyph, but wordlessly starts walking forwards again* --- Ampich-Anne: What is your definition of "solve" Glyph: What were the noises I heard before? She walked alongside Ira, her eyes on the other's midriff.---- Fish: Hormone supplements? Has anyone tried helping Glyphos A gain suitability for high cognitive function? And how close are we? ... Also, how does the species attract mates? Heh. ---- For no apparent reason, Glyph's eyes widened and she blushed.Ira: Noises? My voice? *frowns* --- Ampich-Anne: No one has attempted this. Ira specifically is extremely wary of medical equipment. *pause* The Glyphos A has displayed little to no mating behaviors. It is theorized that they themselves cannot reproduce, but are generated at another source. This is unconfirmed. Ampich-Anne: We are within a quarter-mile of the theorized location, Plumtrr is looking the area over as we fly by. He sees no signs of her.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Aug 6, 2015 17:22:26 GMT -5
Glyph: What were the noises I heard before? She walked alongside Ira, her eyes on the other's midriff.---- Fish: Hormone supplements? Has anyone tried helping Glyphos A gain suitability for high cognitive function? And how close are we? ... Also, how does the species attract mates? Heh. ---- For no apparent reason, Glyph's eyes widened and she blushed.Ira: Noises? My voice? *frowns* --- Ampich-Anne: No one has attempted this. Ira specifically is extremely wary of medical equipment. *pause* The Glyphos A has displayed little to no mating behaviors. It is theorized that they themselves cannot reproduce, but are generated at another source. This is unconfirmed. Ampich-Anne: We are within a quarter-mile of the theorized location, Plumtrr is looking the area over as we fly by. He sees no signs of her. Glyph: *face palm* You're hungry! Oh, and you should be told: Humans don't eat tree leaves. Um. An inquiring mind wants to know how you reproduce. ------ Fish: Was she mistreated when those caring for her discovered she was parasite? Would it be safe to say Plumtrr can't find her?
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Post by Prooobably Not Jeffely on Aug 6, 2015 19:10:03 GMT -5
Ira: Noises? My voice? *frowns* --- Ampich-Anne: No one has attempted this. Ira specifically is extremely wary of medical equipment. *pause* The Glyphos A has displayed little to no mating behaviors. It is theorized that they themselves cannot reproduce, but are generated at another source. This is unconfirmed. Ampich-Anne: We are within a quarter-mile of the theorized location, Plumtrr is looking the area over as we fly by. He sees no signs of her. Glyph: *face palm* You're hungry! Oh, and you should be told: Humans don't eat tree leaves. Um. An inquiring mind wants to know how you reproduce. ------ Fish: Was she mistreated when those caring for her discovered she was parasite? Would it be safe to say Plumtrr can't find her? Ira: ... I know that! I do not eat plants, only taste. ... Reproduce? Make more? *she thinks* ... Oh! The spore. *as if that answered it all* ---- Ampich-Anne: It is probable. Both cases. I will inquire of His pro- There is a jolt as the ship landsAmpich-Anne: .... He should have let me land it.
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