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Post by jateshi on Jan 19, 2003 19:14:20 GMT -5
^_^ Thank you so much! You're always so helpful and I love your suggestions.
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Post by pichuthegreat on Jan 19, 2003 20:20:58 GMT -5
die mary sue die!
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Post by sollunaestrella on Jan 19, 2003 21:19:09 GMT -5
^_^ Thank you so much! You're always so helpful and I love your suggestions. You're very welcome.
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Post by jateshi on Jan 20, 2003 10:35:03 GMT -5
Argh..it turned out way shorter then I planned, any suggestions on what to add after the test? Or before it?
Anyways..Here it is:
Is that you, Mary Sue?
"Abigail is beautiful, more stunning then Psellia could ever be. She is more influential then Fyora, kinder then the Soup Faerie, and smarter then Nereid. She is the perfect Faerie."
So right now you’re most likely thinking ‘This is not possible!’ but, my friends, sadly this is possible in the infamous world of the Mary Sues.
Who is this Mary Sue you speak of?
A Mary Sue is quite the impeccable creature, the way it lurks through your mind concealed in bundles of ideas and thoughts. It is hard to spot this nasty specimen if you don‘t know what it is, so I will tell you. Have you ever seen the definition of perfect? Well, change "perfect" to "Mary Sue," and you’ll know what it is. To better explain what a Mary Sue is, though, I will go into detail. A Mary Sue, as this archetype became known, has everything, and she lives in her own quaint little world where she rules. A Mary sue is better then everybody else; she is generally a brilliant, beautiful, multi-talented girl. A Mary sue is often a figment of the authors wishes. Some people, like me, loathe the Mary Sue clan, but others wish to bow down to their greatness and use that writing style until the day they can't hold a pen anymore. Which are you, then? If you are like me and detest these creatures, then I will show you the way out. Yes, this writing style can be avoided.
Avoiding the problem
Avoiding the dark path of the Mary Sue is tricky, they are very conniving little people (one of their amazing traits. It is possible, if you take this test to figure out is your charter a Mary Sue, then you may be able to avoid this whole entire writing style. Please be warned
Test
1. When your charter goes to the mall, is she:
A. Allowed to buy everything, she IS rich. B. Allowed to buy a little bit, her parents gave her some money. C. She can’t, she is working for her money.
2. What do people say when they see your charter?
A. "Who’s that smart/beautiful/popular, person over there?" B. "Who are you again?" C. They don’t say anything, just "Hello." And that is barley audible.
3. When they see a spider, what do they say? A. EWWWWWW! A BUG! GET IT AWAY! B. I’m allergic. C. Cool, I’ll add it to my collection.
4. What does your charter do when faced with a problem?
A. Call all her buddies over and have them comfort her B. Draw/Doodle C. Make random ’rawr’ noises.
5. Does she have power, or no power?
A. She has all the power at her disposal, BAM-BABY! I mean...Woo-hoo. B. She's content with the limited power she has got. C. She has got very little power, but she's very happy with it.
6. Does she achieve all goals that she sets?
A. Uh, Duh. Of course! B. On occasions. C. If it's a big goal, other then that she wishes to lay undisturbed.
Hit me with those digits! Okay, give me the answers.
Mostly A's: Call the Mary Sue clan! They've got a new member. Maybe you should work around the charters perfection and dig deep inside yourself to find things that you can't do. Then relate that to your charter, I'm not saying that this charter is the worst written thing on earth, heck I've seen the best stories with Mary Sue's as their main charter. But nobody is perfect, everybody has flaws.
Mostly B's: You're the middle line, you’re not over Mary Sue, and under Mary Sue. Congratulations. Beyond that, you're charter is not perfect but that really makes it the perfect charter to work for. Life is funny like that, isnt it?
Mostly C's: Sadly, you're making your charter a bit of an outsider. I'm not saying that is horrible, because it is much better then being a Mary Sue In my opinion. Though sometimes with these stories, people do not want to read on. People need friends, with no friends/ activities it's most likely very bland.
Ending of your lesson
Well, now you know what a Mary Sue is and how to avoid it. Though sometimes a Mary Sue will crawl into that captivity called your 'imagination' but pay no mind to it. It's just now a stone in your path to success.
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Jan 20, 2003 10:37:21 GMT -5
It's not bad, but you ought to make it longer IMO
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Post by sollunaestrella on Jan 20, 2003 10:45:18 GMT -5
Okay! Let's see....
You might want to say that you're not really telling how to avoid the problem because you're kind of not; it's just identifying a Mary Sue. Anyway....
Avoiding the problem
Avoiding the dark path of the Mary Sue is tricky; they are very conniving little people (one of their amazing traits). It is possible, if you take this test to figure out if your character is a Mary Sue, that you may be able to avoid this whole entire writing style. Please be warned. (of what?)
Test
1. When your character goes to the mall, she:
A. Is allowed to buy everything; she IS rich. B. Is allowed to buy a little bit; her parents gave her some money. C. Can’t buy anything; she is working for her money.
2. What do people say when they see your character?
A. "Who’s that smart/beautiful/popular, person over there?" B. "Who are you again?" C. They don’t say anything--just "Hello." And that is barley audible.
3. When she sees a spider, what does she say? A. EWWWWWW! A BUG! GET IT AWAY! B. I’m allergic. C. Cool, I’ll add it to my collection.
4. What does your character do when faced with a problem?
A. Calls all her buddies over and have them comfort her. B. Draw/Doodle. C. Make random ’rawr’ noises.
5. Does she have power?
A. She has all the power at her disposal, BAM-BABY! I mean...Woo-hoo. B. She's content with the limited power she has got. C. She has got very little power, but she's very happy with it.
6. Does she achieve all goals that she sets?
A. Uh, Duh. Of course! B. On occasions. C. If it's a big goal; other then that, she wishes to lay undisturbed.
Hit me with those digits! Okay, give me the answers.
Mostly A's: Call the Mary Sue clan! They've got a new member. Maybe you should work around the character's perfection and dig deep inside yourself to find things that you can't do. Then relate that to your character. I'm not saying that this character is the worst written thing on earth--heck, I've seen the best stories with Mary Sue's as their main character--but nobody is perfect; everybody has flaws.
Mostly B's: You're the middle line. You’re not a Mary Sue, but under a Mary Sue. Congratulations. Beyond that, you're character is not perfect, but that really makes it the perfect character to work with. Life is funny like that, isn't it?
Mostly C's: Sadly, you're making your character a bit of an outsider. I'm not saying that is horrible because it is much better then being a Mary Sue, in my opinion. Sometimes with these stories, though, people do not want to read on. People need friends. With no friends or activities, it's most likely very bland.
Ending of your lesson
Well, now you know what a Mary Sue is and how to avoid it. Although sometimes a Mary Sue will crawl into that captivity called your 'imagination,' pay no mind to it. It's just now a stone in your path to success.
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Post by jateshi on Jan 20, 2003 11:20:57 GMT -5
Is that you, Mary Sue?
"Abigail is beautiful, more stunning then Psellia could ever be. She is more influential then Fyora, kinder then the Soup Faerie, and smarter then Nereid. She is the perfect Faerie."
So right now you’re most likely thinking ‘This is not possible!’ but, my friends, sadly this is possible in the infamous world of the Mary Sues.
Who is this Mary Sue you speak of?
A Mary Sue is quite the impeccable creature, the way it lurks through your mind concealed in bundles of ideas and thoughts. It is hard to spot this nasty specimen if you don‘t know what it is, so I will tell you. Have you ever seen the definition of perfect? Well, change "perfect" to "Mary Sue," and you’ll know what it is. To better explain what a Mary Sue is, though, I will go into detail. A Mary Sue, as this archetype became known, has everything, and she lives in her own quaint little world where she rules. A Mary sue is better then everybody else; she is generally a brilliant, beautiful, multi-talented girl. A Mary sue is often a figment of the authors wishes. Some people, like me, loathe the Mary Sue clan, but others wish to bow down to their greatness and use that writing style until the day they can't hold a pen anymore. Which are you, then? If you are like me and detest these creatures, then I will show you the way out. Yes, this writing style can be identified before it is too late.
Identifying the Mary Sue
Identifying the dark path of the Mary Sues to the normal yellow brick road is tricky, they are very conniving little people (one of their amazing traits.). But it is possible, if you take this test to figure out is your charter a Mary Sue, then you may be able to avoid this whole entire path, isnt that amazing?
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Post by jateshi on Jan 20, 2003 11:21:12 GMT -5
Test
1. When your character goes to the mall, she:
A. Is allowed to buy everything; she IS rich. B. Is allowed to buy a little bit; her parents gave her some money. C. Can’t buy anything; she is working for her money.
2. What do people say when they see your character?
A. "Who’s that smart/beautiful/popular, person over there?" B. "Who are you again?" C. They don’t say anything--just "Hello." And that is barley audible.
3. When she sees a spider, what does she say? A. EWWWWWW! A BUG! GET IT AWAY! B. I’m allergic. C. Cool, I’ll add it to my collection.
4. What does your character do when faced with a problem?
A. Calls all her buddies over and have them comfort her. B. Draw/Doodle. C. Make random ’rawr’ noises.
5. Does she have power?
A. She has all the power at her disposal, BAM-BABY! I mean...Woo-hoo. B. She's content with the limited power she has got. C. She has got very little power, but she's very happy with it.
6. Does she achieve all goals that she sets?
A. Uh, Duh. Of course! B. On occasions. C. If it's a big goal; other then that, she wishes to lay undisturbed.
7. Does she have a lot of friends?
A. She just bumps into people and *magically* they become her friend. B. She has a few close friends and a few friends she sometimes associates with. C. Does her alarm clocks qualify as a friend?
8. What do her parents do?
A. They don’t have to work, they won the lottery for a million dollars. B. One is a vet, and the other is a business woman. C. She’s only got her mum, who is currently a guitar player.
9. How big is her Neohome or house?
A. HUGE! Like mansions. Way bigger then any super star. B. Medium size, just enough room to fit the things she wants inside. C. Small, but okay.
10. Does she assume she’s better then everybody else?
A. No, she knows she is better. She just never says anything out loud. B. At times she feels she is, but she never dares say anything to the people around her. C. No, she feels like she is under everybody else's greatness.
Hit me with those digits! Okay, give me the answers.
Mostly A's: Call the Mary Sue clan! They've got a new member. Maybe you should work around the character's perfection and dig deep inside yourself to find things that you can't do. Then relate that to your character. I'm not saying that this character is the worst written thing on earth--heck, I've seen the best stories with Mary Sue's as their main character--but nobody is perfect; everybody has flaws.
Mostly B's: You're the middle line. You’re not a Mary Sue, but under a Mary Sue. Congratulations. Beyond that, you're character is not perfect, but that really makes it the perfect character to work with. Life is funny like that, isn't it?
Mostly C's: Sadly, you're making your character a bit of an outsider. I'm not saying that is horrible because it is much better then being a Mary Sue, in my opinion. Sometimes with these stories, though, people do not want to read on. People need friends. With no friends or activities, it's most likely very bland.
Ending of your lesson
Well, now you know what a Mary Sue is and how to avoid it. Though sometimes a Mary Sue will crawl into that captivity called your 'imagination' but pay no mind to it. It's just now a stone in your path to success.
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Post by calvinseviltwin on Jan 20, 2003 20:19:05 GMT -5
Well, good luck!
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