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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on May 31, 2011 19:07:04 GMT -5
I still like the idea of a street fights thread Like Hunter said, The Taco isn't exactly limited by normal concepts of time and space.
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Post by Omni on May 31, 2011 19:07:45 GMT -5
And yes, the 'disintegrates' thing is a subject of debate. Could possibly be removed. : I'm not sure how disintegration is worse than death... at least, for anyone who isn't immortal. It wouldn't make reviving them any harder for me, in any case.*shrug* It wouldn't need to be removed. If it isn't, it may make things trickier for other revivers. By the way, I'm suggesting that we give everyone adequate weaponry for the world of the Taco. There have been complaints about not being able to do much to combat Robots. [ by whom?] Sorry. Well, the one I've seen stated out loud (so to speak) so far is Torkie, but I wouldn't be surprised if others have similar discomfort. I know that people have been 'running away' (again, so to speak) a lot. Maybe it's just me being stubborn, but I don't really feel like changing my characters' weapons. XD Personally, I think that it should be up to the writers to decide what weaponry is adequate for a character (and if said character would even want a weapon.) So... I think the issue should be dropped. :I I did say that people could 'opt out.' You also wouldn't need to change their weapons entirely; they could be alongside their usual weapons. Maybe they could only have these weapons while in the Taco, and they disappear when the characters leave. Maybe we can get an enchant that works only in the Taco and that makes existing, weaker weapons more powerful, drawing off of the energy here or something. Maybe we could put a shield around the city itself so that powerful, outside attacks can do nothing... at least then the conflicts that we have to worry about will be less-extreme ones, and hey, it wouldn't affect what items individual characters' possess. And by 'appropriate,' I meant 'for the situation that they're up against' more than 'for the type of world the character comes from.' At any rate, I do not think that the issue should just be dropped. Tension in general has been building, and it's not going to just go away if we don't talk about it. I actually read something the other day saying that happy couples (this could also apply to groups in general) manage to stay happy partially because they know [how] to discuss 'the hard things' and work them out. We got together to try working out the 'truce' to address these type of problems (though we didn't get to working out details, and things have been getting worse since then...), so why can't we get together to address these type of problems again? At any rate, we need mutually agreed upon rules. Can I propose that we get to that, and sooner rather than later? I still like the idea of a street fights thread That's also a possibility.
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Post by Lizzie on May 31, 2011 19:08:37 GMT -5
*appears to be deep in thought*
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Post by Chloemew on May 31, 2011 19:15:10 GMT -5
Street fights thread sounds good to me. :B
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Post by Ikkin on May 31, 2011 19:18:24 GMT -5
At any rate, I do not think that the issue should just be dropped. Tension in general has been building, and it's not going to just go away if we don't talk about it. I actually read something the other day saying that happy couples (this could also apply to groups in general) manage to stay happy partially because they know [how] to discuss 'the hard things' and work them out. We got together to try working out the 'truce' to address these type of problems (though we didn't get to working out details, and things have been getting worse since then...), so why can't we get together to address these type of problems again? At any rate, we need mutually agreed upon rules. Can I propose that we get to that, and sooner rather than later? I agree with this completely. Might it not be better to have a thread dedicated to this type of discussion, though? It seems a bit serious for the general Taco, and it might benefit from being less of an in-character thing.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on May 31, 2011 19:19:01 GMT -5
Street fights thread sounds good to me. :B Whoo If more people are in favor of it I can make it when I get back
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on May 31, 2011 19:20:16 GMT -5
At any rate, I do not think that the issue should just be dropped. Tension in general has been building, and it's not going to just go away if we don't talk about it. I actually read something the other day saying that happy couples (this could also apply to groups in general) manage to stay happy partially because they know [how] to discuss 'the hard things' and work them out. We got together to try working out the 'truce' to address these type of problems (though we didn't get to working out details, and things have been getting worse since then...), so why can't we get together to address these type of problems again? At any rate, we need mutually agreed upon rules. Can I propose that we get to that, and sooner rather than later? I agree with this completely. Might it not be better to have a thread dedicated to this type of discussion, though? It seems a bit serious for the general Taco, and it might benefit from being less of an in-character thing. A City Hall thread Is anyone else of the opinion that we need a "places" sub board?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 19:20:50 GMT -5
Sorry. Well, the one I've seen stated out loud (so to speak) so far is Torkie, but I wouldn't be surprised if others have similar discomfort. I know that people have been 'running away' (again, so to speak) a lot. Have you ever considered that people might be leaving because they don't want to fight, not because they can't fight? Block has a laser weapon, Churchill's gun has been canonically shown to be able to, at the very least, damage Himmlerbot, Jinzo has electricity powers... There is no lack of ability here. I did say that people could 'opt out.' Would it not be easier to opt in? Perhaps simply set up an Icy Taco location where these weapons are available. And by 'appropriate,' I meant 'for the situation that they're up against' more than 'for the type of world the character comes from.' You expect the Taco characters from medieval universes to be able to handle plasma weaponry? At any rate, I do not think that the issue should just be dropped. Tension in general has been building, and it's not going to just go away if we don't talk about it. If you haven't noticed, this is building tension. And this won't solve existing tension. See my first point about not wanting to fight. I actually read something the other day saying that happy couples (this could also apply to groups in general) manage to stay happy partially because they know [how] to discuss 'the hard things' and work them out. We got together to try working out the 'truce' to address these type of problems (though we didn't get to working out details, and things have been getting worse since then...), so why can't we get together to address these type of problems again? You made a proposal. It has been voted down. That's how discussions work.
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Post by Lizzie on May 31, 2011 19:24:02 GMT -5
I agree with this completely. Might it not be better to have a thread dedicated to this type of discussion, though? It seems a bit serious for the general Taco, and it might benefit from being less of an in-character thing. A City Hall thread Is anyone else of the opinion that we need a "places" sub board?A subsub board?
I'd go for it... if it were possible.A City Hall?
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Post by Chloemew on May 31, 2011 19:25:29 GMT -5
Whoo If more people are in favor of it I can make it when I get back Apparently we might be able to use the Arena thread for that instead, since it's not limited to just arena fights. We'll just have to see if GLQ can make a few modifications to the first post and whatnot when she gets here to clarify that though. :U
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Post by Gelquie on May 31, 2011 19:26:30 GMT -5
Okay, guys. I am in concurrence with Omni with the fact that there is tension, and I've noticed that it tends to remain there regardless of whether it's brought up or not. As such, I say there is a definite need to discuss this issue more. Though I think of a more in-general solution, as not everything has worked out. As such, there is need for a re-convention of the issues.
Is this the right thread to do it? Probably not. A new thread would probably work best.
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Post by Ikkin on May 31, 2011 19:27:09 GMT -5
If you haven't noticed, this is building tension. And this won't solve existing tension. See my first point about not wanting to fight. Revealing existing tensions usually looks identical to building tensions. But you can't let that get in the way of bringing them into the light so you can deal with them. Has it? It seems too early to say that to me. There certainly isn't a lack of dissent, at the very least. I agree with this completely. Might it not be better to have a thread dedicated to this type of discussion, though? It seems a bit serious for the general Taco, and it might benefit from being less of an in-character thing. A City Hall thread Is anyone else of the opinion that we need a "places" sub board?I don't think there's enough for a sub-board, but I think a City Hall thread could deserve a Sticky if it's used consistently.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 19:28:44 GMT -5
If you guys want to hold it on a separate thread, that's fine. But if it becomes a permanent fixture point (like a city hall), I think it should be a bit neater of an introduction than just "okay, here's the current problem and we'll use this thread for all problems here on out".
I'd be willing to write that out, but I'm not sure people would be willing to wait for it.
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Post by Omni on May 31, 2011 19:29:28 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me being stubborn, but I don't really feel like changing my characters' weapons. XD Personally, I think that it should be up to the writers to decide what weaponry is adequate for a character (and if said character would even want a weapon.) So... I think the issue should be dropped. :I : Given enough cleverness on the part of its user, even the simplest weapon can be adequate to defeat even the strongest foe. On the other hand, no weapon is adequate for any purpose if you're not willing to commit to using it. Forcing unwanted weapons on others isn't the way to proceed, true. But that doesn't mean there isn't value in inspiring them to find ways to avoid feeling helpless in the face of a threat, whether that involves new weaponry or not. One more time, they can still opt out for personal reasons. Similar to your remark about not using them, they can still choose not to use the weapons even if they get them. I'll admit, the cleverness thing didn't come to mind. That is a good point, though. Perhaps it would be worth while – at least on my part – to mention that the Reploids have a weakness? But yes, I feel that we need to work so that people here don't feel helpless in the face of a threat. It's getting to be too much of a problem. As for using new weapons, may I say 'don't knock it until you try it'? If we don't give it a chance, nothing changes, and nothing is learned. Also, we don't need to "force" a particular type of weapon on anybody. We can have different options and have different people choose what they're comfortable with. That part of the reason why I brought up both plasma weapons (which aren't limited to firearms) and Zats: I was trying to convey that there are different options to be chosen from, and individually at that. I guess it was just poor choice of words on my part that that didn't get across. Heh. I just got an ad for firearms training.
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Post by Lizzie on May 31, 2011 19:30:49 GMT -5
If you guys want to hold it on a separate thread, that's fine. But if it becomes a permanent fixture point (like a city hall), I think it should be a bit neater of an introduction than just "okay, here's the current problem and we'll use this thread for all problems here on out". I'd be willing to write that out, but I'm not sure people would be willing to wait for it. I agree with this post, and I can help write it. ^_^
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