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Post by Omni on Sept 19, 2011 21:29:55 GMT -5
*finds this amusing* That works both ways. Two sides to every coin. One of the people that was tortured? A scientist. How was he tortured? His daughter was kept away from him. She herself was sweet, and anything he did was just to make sure she would be safe and happy. Maybe there were some lapses of judgement from fear, but he was being coerced, and even then things were kept isolated. And once he was able, he himself was a good man. And I'm willing to bet that there are a million humans like each of them, and that every human has the potential to be like either of them. Caracura: Humans are inherently more evil then good. It is in their nature to be destructive. (( Heh ...)) Mmm... Maybe. It's hard for me to say without taking an exact count of the population. Still, that's no reason to condemn them all. And for all we know their nature may be affected overwhelmed by their circumstances. Like I said, they need a good opportunity. Like you said, they have the potential. ((Uhn... You know those moments where you come up with something good, but then forget it before you write it down? ))
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 19, 2011 22:20:12 GMT -5
Caracura: Humans are inherently more evil then good. It is in their nature to be destructive. (( Heh ...)) Mmm... Maybe. It's hard for me to say without taking an exact count of the population. Still, that's no reason to condemn them all. And for all we know their nature may be affected overwhelmed by their circumstances. Like I said, they need a good opportunity. Like you said, they have the potential. ((Uhn... You know those moments where you come up with something good, but then forget it before you write it down? )) Caracura: Mm. This conversation is getting no where. ((Yeah x_o ))
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Post by Omni on Sept 19, 2011 23:50:10 GMT -5
(( Heh ...)) Mmm... Maybe. It's hard for me to say without taking an exact count of the population. Still, that's no reason to condemn them all. And for all we know their nature may be affected overwhelmed by their circumstances. Like I said, they need a good opportunity. Like you said, they have the potential. ((Uhn... You know those moments where you come up with something good, but then forget it before you write it down? )) Caracura: Mm. This conversation is getting no where. ((Yeah x_o )) Agreed. I'm not sure why I'm trying. I'm obviously not getting through. ((Yeah, going around in circles. Being very 'let's agree to disagree, and disagree to agree, and disagree to disagree, and-' yeah. Funny how the fight itself didn't last very long.))
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 20, 2011 0:11:36 GMT -5
Caracura: Mm. This conversation is getting no where. ((Yeah x_o )) Agreed. I'm not sure why I'm trying. I'm obviously not getting through. ((Yeah, going around in circles. Being very 'let's agree to disagree, and disagree to agree, and disagree to disagree, and-' yeah. Funny how the fight itself didn't last very long.)) Caracura: I've drawn the same conclusion. ((Yeah. Guess Proto should have tried insulting Rinam, the Progenitors, Caracura's pack, or anything else she really cares about))
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Post by Omni on Sept 20, 2011 0:29:29 GMT -5
Agreed. I'm not sure why I'm trying. I'm obviously not getting through. ((Yeah, going around in circles. Being very 'let's agree to disagree, and disagree to agree, and disagree to disagree, and-' yeah. Funny how the fight itself didn't last very long.)) Caracura: I've drawn the same conclusion. ((Yeah. Guess Proto should have tried insulting Rinam, the Progenitors, Caracura's pack, or anything else she really cares about)) I've been there, and I've seen what's wrong with that way of thinking. What's your excuse? ((Problem is they're not directly related to the issue, and he's not one to just insult things. If you want him to say something about them, he may need to hear them mentioned first, and even then what he says will probably depend on what she says.))
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 20, 2011 0:41:03 GMT -5
Caracura: I've drawn the same conclusion. ((Yeah. Guess Proto should have tried insulting Rinam, the Progenitors, Caracura's pack, or anything else she really cares about)) I've been there, and I've seen what's wrong with that way of thinking. What's your excuse? ((Problem is they're not directly related to the issue, and he's not one to just insult things. If you want him to say something about them, he may need to hear them mentioned first, and even then what he says will probably depend on what she says.)) Caracura: There is nothing wrong with my way of thinking. ((Was just saying XD ))
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Post by Omni on Sept 20, 2011 1:02:36 GMT -5
I've been there, and I've seen what's wrong with that way of thinking. What's your excuse? ((Problem is they're not directly related to the issue, and he's not one to just insult things. If you want him to say something about them, he may need to hear them mentioned first, and even then what he says will probably depend on what she says.)) Caracura: There is nothing wrong with my way of thinking. ((Was just saying XD )) And that is exactly your problem: Stubborn pride. At least I'm trying to consider variables, and I've learned things since I thought like that so I have something to compare with. Maybe there are still problems, but I'm pretty sure it's at least better than what I had before. You refuse to believe that your opinion is anything less than perfect. ((I thought it was a suggestion, so I was giving suggestions back. ))
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 20, 2011 1:33:00 GMT -5
Caracura: There is nothing wrong with my way of thinking. ((Was just saying XD )) And that is exactly your problem: Stubborn pride. At least I'm trying to consider variables, and I've learned things since I thought like that so I have something to compare with. Maybe there are still problems, but I'm pretty sure it's at least better than what I had before. You refuse to believe that your opinion is anything less than perfect. ((I thought it was a suggestion, so I was giving suggestions back. )) Caracura: An opinion is an opinion, and can never be perfect because perfection itself is in the eye of the beholder. *glances down the beach* ... I will consider revising my opinion if the humans give me reason to. Until then, I would like to continue my walk without being fired at or anymore attempted drownings, if you do not mind. ... You may walk with me if you wish, for your presence is not entirely undesired. You are... interesting to look at.
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Post by Omni on Sept 21, 2011 1:26:37 GMT -5
And that is exactly your problem: Stubborn pride. At least I'm trying to consider variables, and I've learned things since I thought like that so I have something to compare with. Maybe there are still problems, but I'm pretty sure it's at least better than what I had before. You refuse to believe that your opinion is anything less than perfect. ((I thought it was a suggestion, so I was giving suggestions back. )) Caracura: An opinion is an opinion, and can never be perfect because perfection itself is in the eye of the beholder. *glances down the beach* ... I will consider revising my opinion if the humans give me reason to. Until then, I would like to continue my walk without being fired at or anymore attempted drownings, if you do not mind. ... You may walk with me if you wish, for your presence is not entirely undesired. You are... interesting to look at. ... Perfection is only subject to opinion in situations that are only subject to opinion, such as entertainment. *almost hits the tree next to him as he gestures to it* In my opinion, this could be a very tall bush, but that wouldn't change the fact that it's a tree. My opinion can't be called 'perfect.' *returns to a stressed standing position* If I needed to hire someone for a delicate job, such as satellite positioning, and they only worked with numbers rounded up, I would not call them perfect for the job 'in opinion'... Assuming I had enough information about the situation. Yes, there are some situations where there is an acceptable range and not a 'perfect' state, but even then there's a point where things aren't perfect in any sense, except maybe as a perfect example of what not to do. That said, I can't allow you to continue.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 21, 2011 1:39:01 GMT -5
Caracura: An opinion is an opinion, and can never be perfect because perfection itself is in the eye of the beholder. *glances down the beach* ... I will consider revising my opinion if the humans give me reason to. Until then, I would like to continue my walk without being fired at or anymore attempted drownings, if you do not mind. ... You may walk with me if you wish, for your presence is not entirely undesired. You are... interesting to look at. ... Perfection is only subject to opinion in situations that are only subject to opinion, such as entertainment. *almost hits the tree next to him as he gestures to it* In my opinion, this could be a very tall bush, but that wouldn't change the fact that it's a tree. My opinion can't be called 'perfect.' *returns to a stressed standing position* If I needed to hire someone for a delicate job, such as satellite positioning, and they only worked with numbers rounded up, I would not call them perfect for the job 'in opinion'... Assuming I had enough information about the situation. Yes, there are some situations where there is an acceptable range and not a 'perfect' state, but even then there's a point where things aren't perfect in any sense, except maybe as a perfect example of what not to do. That said, I can't allow you to continue. Caracura: *very bored, somewhat irritated sigh* Good day. *begins walking away*
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Post by Omni on Sept 28, 2011 17:06:15 GMT -5
... Perfection is only subject to opinion in situations that are only subject to opinion, such as entertainment. *almost hits the tree next to him as he gestures to it* In my opinion, this could be a very tall bush, but that wouldn't change the fact that it's a tree. My opinion can't be called 'perfect.' *returns to a stressed standing position* If I needed to hire someone for a delicate job, such as satellite positioning, and they only worked with numbers rounded up, I would not call them perfect for the job 'in opinion'... Assuming I had enough information about the situation. Yes, there are some situations where there is an acceptable range and not a 'perfect' state, but even then there's a point where things aren't perfect in any sense, except maybe as a perfect example of what not to do. That said, I can't allow you to continue. Caracura: *very bored, somewhat irritated sigh* Good day. *begins walking away* *fires a missile at Caracura from behind*
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 28, 2011 20:07:36 GMT -5
Caracura: *very bored, somewhat irritated sigh* Good day. *begins walking away* *fires a missile at Caracura from behind* Caracura: *hit and knocked down* *lays on the ground for a bit, stunned*[rand=2212890087605136359545999968779925210647501399051040548449147658]
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Post by Omni on Sept 28, 2011 20:29:36 GMT -5
*fires a missile at Caracura from behind* Caracura: *hit and knocked down* *lays on the ground for a bit, stunned* *staying where he is, fires another one... with reason* Get up.
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Post by The Scrac that Smiles Back on Sept 28, 2011 21:19:27 GMT -5
Caracura: *hit and knocked down* *lays on the ground for a bit, stunned* *staying where he is, fires another one... with reason* Get up. Caracura: *slowly gets up and faces Proto, hissing softly*
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Post by icon on Sept 28, 2011 21:24:16 GMT -5
((Hey, guys, I really really don't mean to come off as rude when I say this, but how long do you two think this fight will take? This battle's been going on for over a month, and while it's a great battle, there are some other people who want to have duels as well. ^^; Don't mean to be pushy- just curious.))
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